Anyone still watch the LD releases? — Page 2

CO said:
Never had a lasedisc player, but for anyone who has the Star Wars LD Set  and the GOUT, which version would you say is better on an HDTV?

captainsolo said:

... LD is about 420i and VHS is about 240i IIRC. ...

Sounds like you are confusing video modes with analogue resolution.

Standard definition NTSC video is 480i - that includes VHS, LD and DVD. The video signal contains 480 horizontal lines of picture information (vertical resolution).

The ability of each of these lines to resolve fine detail is dependent on the analogue bandwidth - this can be measured in terms of horizontal resolution (vertical lines on the screen).

Roughly:
VHS = 3MHz, or 240 lines
Laserdisc = 5.5Mhz, 440 lines
DVD = 6.75MHz, 540 lines

You should never confuse this with digital resolution which is simply the number of discrete pixels, e.g. 720 x 480.

I would if I had a player...and the LDs to go with it...

Heck, I've been watching VHSes lately.

Davnes007 said:

Can't happen. Like regularjoe said, it was probably laser-rot.

Nope, wasn't laser rot at all. They where actually damaged by a cheap player ( cant remember the brand ) that actually ran hot quite often and it warped the discs enough for them to get scratched and that messed up the playback.

This happened way back in 1990 and I would have never thought that at the time, a laser disc could warp like it did in that player.  I had a friend who had a cheap pioneer player that warped a laser disc of Predator because it also ran hot for some reason. I actually had a Johnny Mnemonic that suffered from laser rot.

Is it safe to say that the GOUT will look better, but the LD would sound better?

I would like to think the LD GOUT would sound better than the DVD GOUT because the LD GOUT is PCM stereo surround, where as the DVD GOUT is Dolby Digital 2.0, but thats just my own opinion.  However, to really benefit from PCM on Laser disc your player has to have a PCM digital out ( most of the cheaper Laser disc players of the time didn't have it). And analog outs sound crappy due to the players poor D/A converters.  I wish I had the GOUT DVD's to  do an A/B comparison.

The LDs certainly destroy the GOUT. I can only speak from going between the Faces ROTJ and the GOUT. No comparison at all!

Moth3r said:

captainsolo said:

... LD is about 420i and VHS is about 240i IIRC. ...

Sounds like you are confusing video modes with analogue resolution.

Standard definition NTSC video is 480i - that includes VHS, LD and DVD. The video signal contains 480 horizontal lines of picture information (vertical resolution).

The ability of each of these lines to resolve fine detail is dependent on the analogue bandwidth - this can be measured in terms of horizontal resolution (vertical lines on the screen).

Roughly:
VHS = 3MHz, or 240 lines
Laserdisc = 5.5Mhz, 440 lines
DVD = 6.75MHz, 540 lines

You should never confuse this with digital resolution which is simply the number of discrete pixels, e.g. 720 x 480.

You're right. That's what I meant to say essentially. Somehow it got stuck in my head the other way.

SilverWook said:

If collecting LD's is a fetish, does that make one a pervert? ;)

Nope. ;)

I got my Pioneer 704 repaired and refurbished earlier this year by these guys...

http://www.laserdiscservice.com/

I had almost written off my player as scrap before I found them. I actually think it runs better now than when it was new!  (The THX-1138 LD capture I sent to myscamore has benefited from it too.) They also sell refurbished machines. Well worth checking out.

Wow! An actual LD repair center! My player has a few hiccups here and there so I might send it in at some point. About how much do they charge to take a look?

AuggieBenDoggie said:

 

Davnes007 said:

Can't happen. Like regularjoe said, it was probably laser-rot.

 

Nope, wasn't laser rot at all. They where actually damaged by a cheap player ( cant remember the brand ) that actually ran hot quite often and it warped the discs enough for them to get scratched and that messed up the playback.

Well, okay. I should have said 'under normal circumstances, it's can't happen'.

A player running hot, and f---ing up your discs really sucks. :(

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Is it safe to say that the GOUT will look better, but the LD would sound better?

Depends. Here's one example:

http://www.aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/screenshots.php

Check out Shot 24 (Luke's blueish/white/green sabre training on the Falcon), every single LD capture has more detail in the floor grate, and shows the horizontal lines on Han's chair. Heck, even the '92 letterbox VHS beats it on that shot.

bigmonkey2382 said:


Getting rid of your LD's because of the gout? Most illogical [/spock]

 

bigmonkey2382 said:

No I'm talking about getting rid of your ENTIRE LD collection, for simply getting the gout. There's still versions of movies, and shit you can't get on dvd or blu ray, no way I'd do that. (I'd get both the gout and keep the LD's if it were me.)

This thread is creepy, but I can't quite put my finger on why...

I can't stop collecting these. Mainly for the PCM sound. And my love of outdated technologies.

ok- what happened to bigmonkey2382?