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Ahsoka (live action series) - general discussion thread

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Formerly the ‘Ahsoka Tano - discussion’ thread. It’s now the dedicated thread for the series but general discussion about the character of Ahsoka is still welcome!


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“After making her long awaited live-action debut in The Mandalorian, Ahsoka Tano’s story, written by Dave Filoni, will continue in a limited series starring Rosario Dawson and produced by Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau.” - Disney official description

At time of writing, the latest news is that Hayden Christen will be appearing as Anakin in the series. I think right now the main question is whether this will be a character-study type show focusing on Ahsoka and her past, perhaps leading into a sequel to Star Wars Rebels, or whether this will be the Rebels sequel itself. What are your thoughts?

(Note: as the purpose of the thread was changed, discussion of the Ahsoka series starts properly on Page 3)

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Look, I love her, I really do - but she really needs to go away.

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I keep thinking “wow, enough with Ahsoka already” but then they show me what they’re doing with her and I’m like “OK… alright, you got me again. This is the goods.”

At this point, the idea of her being essentially the GANDALF of Star Wars is pretty cool. Seeing her make the jump to live action will also be pretty cool. Eventually, she’ll pass on, and it seems remarkable (or ridiculous) looking back how this complete RETCON of a person has surpassed so many other characters in the saga in terms of personality, arc, impact, and three-dimensionality, but the way it’s been done has always essentially justified itself, no matter how outlandish it seems on the surface.

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I’ve changed my mind quite a bit about Ahsoka since she appeared on the scene. Back then I had mixed feelings to say the least regarding the prequels, and I also didn’t like the animation style of The Clone Wars initially, so Ahsoka had the deck stacked against her.

When I did start to warm up to The Clone Wars and Prequels, I still wasn’t big on Ahsoka. I didn’t like her attitude at first and wasn’t big on the idea of Anakin having a Padawan at all.

Then a funny thing happened. The character Ahsoka started to resonate with me. I found myself agreeing with her thoughts about a lot of things. I could see her struggling with how the Jedi were handling things. She couldn’t deny her own feelings, but couldn’t comprehend how she could be right and the Jedi wrong. She listens to Anakin and Obi-Wan because she respects them, and she learns a lot, but still has issues.

The end of season five was eye opening for her. She was able to see things more clearly from the outside looking in. Her skepticism really comes together. When we see her again, she obviously still has respect for Anakin and Obi-Wan, but is a lot more vocal in her defiance of the dogma. I think Ahsoka and Qui-Gon would have seen eye to eye. He saw it too. They were right. The Jedi had lost their way in a sort and Palpatine used their rigidity to play them like a fiddle.

Ahsoka brings a lot to Star Wars. She had a huge impact on Anakin and was most likely a factor in his fall as Palpatine undermined Anakin’s trust in the Jedi. Now whenever I watch The Clone Wars, it feels a lot more like Ahsoka is the main character and the entire reason for watching. Filoni is brilliant and Star Wars is in good hands as long as he is around. The end of The Clone Wars season 7 is some of the best Star Wars period. She is definitely one of my favorite characters.

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Ahsoka is a great character, there’s no doubt about that. Seeing the prequels through the lense of her and Rex is just gold. Nobody can deny that after watching that CW finale. I very much enjoyed her in Rebels too.

If she shows up in any other piece of Star Wars, as long as Filoni is writing (which he will be because he is very protective of her), then it’s going to be great.

I agree with some of the statements above, because I really want to stop seeing characters that we’ve seen a hundred times before. Mandalorian is a leap in the right direction, because it’s not directly connected to anything within the Skywalker Saga. However it needs to get wierder, and i mean that in a good way. The stranger, and the less familiar, the better.

I don’t want to see Ahsoka in Mando season 2 (I also still believe that it’s just a rumor), because her character needs to be used sparingly. If we see her in this show I feel like we’re shrinking Star Wars down again. That’s the last thing we pretty much all want.

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SWOTFAN25 said:

I don’t want to see Ahsoka in Mando season 2 (I also still believe that it’s just a rumor), because her character needs to be used sparingly. If we see her in this show I feel like we’re shrinking Star Wars down again. That’s the last thing we pretty much all want.

True, and I do hate Star Wars’ constant universe-shrinking. But if Din Djarin is searching for Jedi (or, at least, force wielders) isn’t eventually meeting Ahsoka the logical way to go?

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I’d say Ahsoka is a central character of The Clone Wars, but only a supporting character in Rebels. I think Ahsoka showing up in a cameo or as a supporting character in The Mandalorian and elsewhere is a great way to add a lot depth to whatever story they’re telling. We still follow the main character and their story, but whenever they connect with something larger, even if brief, I think it’s great.

I think we have a lot of Ahsoka still ahead, but when her time comes, I expect it to be huge.

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I haven’t really had time to see much of The Clone Wars… but for two season the best episodes are ones with less of her. I get that this is one of those long haul things, but at the same time it also feels like a problem when other new cast members are immediately more engaging.

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Mocata said:

I haven’t really had time to see much of The Clone Wars… but for two season the best episodes are ones with less of her. I get that this is one of those long haul things, but at the same time it also feels like a problem when other new cast members are immediately more engaging.

Not to digress too far from the main topic of Ahsoka, but you could sample a few of the best episode arcs to see if it grabs your interest. Ahsoka is in many of them, but she isn’t always the main focus. The series touches on a whole lot of people and places. Lots of juicy Star Wars goodness.

Here is a post I made a while back of my favorite episodes:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Essential-Star-Wars-Animated-Series-Episodes-for-Movie-Marathon-Inclusion/id/74792/page/1#1343085

And here is another someone else made that is really well done:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Clone-Wars-2008-Episode-Guide/id/77657/page/1#1372992

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Rodney-2187 said:

I think Ahsoka showing up in a cameo or as a supporting character in The Mandalorian and elsewhere is a great way to add a lot depth to whatever story they’re telling. We still follow the main character and their story, but whenever they connect with something larger, even if brief, I think it’s great.

Absolutely agreed. I think she should function more as a guide for the characters than a major player herself. She’s the best (living) person to inform Din Djarin about the Jedi Order, its history, and failings, and demise etc, and she can offer advice on what to do with the child, but I reckon she should maybe only be in one episode. After all, we’re likely to get a separate show about the search for Ezra at some point, and she’ll have to part ways with Mando to continue that quest.

Another prediction I have is that future seasons of The Mandalorian will get more involved with Mandalore itself. If Ahsoka directs Din towards her old part-time friend Bo Katan - who as you probably know is also rumoured to appear, reprised by Katee Sackhoff herself - I think it would be a really nice touch, having got to see their relationship in the Clone Wars finale earlier this year.

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NFBisms said:

Look, I love her, I really do - but she really needs to go away.

She’s fine in the Clone Wars show. Dave Filoni sticking his OC absolutely everywhere is obnoxious, especially when it goes so far from where her character has any right to be. If she is in the Mandalorian (some people still say it’s just a rumor? I don’t know), I have no idea what purpose she’ll have.

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Rebels ends with Ahsoka and Sabine going off to find Ezra. Sabine in The Mandalorian makes sense as she is a Mandalorian. She previously wielded the black saber. So she is connected. And Ahsoka is connected in the past to Yoda and the Jedi. Between Luke and Ahsoka, Ahsoka knows more about the Jedi, Yoda, and his species than Luke does. So the best person to answer Din Djarin’s questions is Ahsoka. What I’d like to see is a short arc, 2 or 3 episodes, that cause these characters paths to cross in a way that works for Din Djarin’s story. It would be great to start a live action spin off of Ahsoka and Sabine searching for Ezra, or even an animated series. But it needs to fit in and feel logical. And if Bo Katan and/or Sabine are in the series, it would be nice for them to take their helmets off and hear a reason why they can and Din Djarin can’t. More Mandalorian lore would be great. I really see including Ahsoka as a way to enhance this series and widen the galaxy rather than something that shrinks it. There is so much to the Star Wars universe that has never been touched on that this series has been covering and crossing paths with Ahsoka and Sabine on their path gives lots of chances to expand the universe.

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Outside of The Clone Wars, Ahsoka only appears in part of Rebels, mostly in season 2. She isn’t everywhere, she’s just so popular among fans that it seems like she is.

Ahsoka was born 36 BBY and The Mandalorian takes place 9 ABY, so she would be about 45 years old around that time. The Rise of Skywalker is 35 ABY, so Ahsoka would have been 71 at that time, but since Rey hears her voice, I’m guessing that means she has become one with the Force by then.

I’d say we have a lot more of Ahsoka’s story still to tell. Can’t wait!

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SparkySywer said:

Dave Filoni sticking his OC absolutely everywhere is obnoxious, especially when it goes so far from where her character has any right to be.

She has the right to be wherever she wants to be.

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Rodney-2187 said:

SparkySywer said:

Dave Filoni sticking his OC absolutely everywhere is obnoxious, especially when it goes so far from where her character has any right to be.

She has the right to be wherever she wants to be.

Sorry to break it to you, but Ahsoka isn’t real. Dave Filoni is real, however, and he seems intent on shoehorning Ahsoka into every project he works on. I get that he feels proud of creating such a popular character, but putting her everywhere and making it so that she can never die causes her to overstay her welcome somewhat.

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StarkillerAG said:

Rodney-2187 said:

SparkySywer said:

Dave Filoni sticking his OC absolutely everywhere is obnoxious, especially when it goes so far from where her character has any right to be.

She has the right to be wherever she wants to be.

Sorry to break it to you, but Ahsoka isn’t real. Dave Filoni is real, however, and he seems intent on shoehorning Ahsoka into every project he works on. I get that he feels proud of creating such a popular character, but putting her everywhere and making it so that she can never die causes her to overstay her welcome somewhat.

People make this argument about ‘narcissistic Dave Filoni sticking his cartoon characters in everything he does’ all the time, and I still find it unfair. Ahsoka was already a main character of The Clone Wars, she basically guest appeared in Rebels, and she’s the perfect choice for a Jedi for Din to meet in The Mandalorian. If you had created a character you liked, you knew interesting ways to expand their story, and there was great popular demand for the character to appear in more content… would you really resist doing it, in order to appear less obnoxious?

I know that she’ll probably appear in The Bad Batch series as well, and that’ll probably drive some dubious fans such as yourself over the edge, but I personally love Ahsoka and I’ve never seen a proper reason to not include her in something. Besides, The Bad Batch looks like it might end up a bit of a dull show if Ahsoka and Rex aren’t in it.

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I don’t know, I’ve found this band of misfits pretty funny ! (Besides, this show is just a way to continue The Clone Wars)

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StarkillerAG said:

he seems intent on shoehorning Ahsoka into every project he works on.

She is not in every project he works on. She was not in Resistance. Also, I wouldn’t say being a supporting character in just a few episodes of Rebels would constitute shoehorning. Her popularity makes it seem like she’s everywhere because she is frequently mentioned, but shes mostly just in The Clone Wars.

StarkillerAG said:

making it so that she can never die causes her to overstay her welcome somewhat.

I’m sure she can die, but It would be hard for a character as popular as you’ve mentioned Ahsoka is to overstay her welcome.

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Z6PO said:

I don’t know, I’ve found this band of misfits pretty funny ! (Besides, this show is just a way to continue The Clone Wars)

Me too, and good point. I take back my harsh words. I suppose I meant more… unnecessary? Sure, arguably every project is unnecessary until it’s good - The Mandalorian, for example - but in comparison to other things the LFL animation dept. could be working on, like… oh, I don’t know… Star Wars Rebels sequel series?

Still looking forward to it a lot though. Only a few months away now, I think.

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I think there would be far more complaints if we didn’t see more of Ahsoka.

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Rodney-2187 said:

StarkillerAG said:

he seems intent on shoehorning Ahsoka into every project he works on.

She is not in every project he works on. She was not in Resistance. Also, I wouldn’t say being a supporting character in just a few episodes of Rebels would constitute shoehorning. Her popularity makes it seem like she’s everywhere because she is frequently mentioned, but shes mostly just in The Clone Wars.

I completely forgot about Resistance, actually (I think everyone has). And I guess she really isn’t in that much of Rebels, but the thing that set me over the edge of “This character is clearly the author’s favorite” is when Ezra traveled back in time in order to save her from Darth Vader. Like, she didn’t need to survive past that fight, it was a perfect end for her character. But Filoni contrived the situation so that he can break the rules of space and time in order to save his author’s pet.

StarkillerAG said:

making it so that she can never die causes her to overstay her welcome somewhat.

I’m sure she can die, but It would be hard for a character as popular as you’ve mentioned Ahsoka is to overstay her welcome.

I actually don’t know if she can die. Besides the aforementioned time travel, there’s also the moment in TROS where she spoke to Rey. It made it seem like she died, but then Filoni was like “No, she actually survives past TROS,” and Ahsoka’s dialogue was retconned in the subtitles to “Female Jedi #4.” That also made me wonder if Filoni will ever just let this character rest. And I do think it’s possible for a popular character to overstay their welcome, and that’s generally what’s happening with me for Ahsoka.

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