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Hi Guys,
I have gotten some tips from a fellow member here but I need a little more than just tips,and he is to busy finishing his own projects to give me just a little more time,so I am HOPING that someone else here can give me some help,I have been messing with this for almost a month now and STILL cannot figure this out.

OK first off I will tell you what I am trying to do,I am wanting to put the WHOLE extended Windmill scene and the WHOLE Henry the Red scene into the Army of Darkness(as well as other stuff),but if any of you have seen,the scenes have a terrible big black line going through about 4 frames at 2 different times.

I have made an image sequence of the scenes,and an avi,now what I am trying to do is use masks to clean these frames up,I KNOW it can be done,I have seen it,just do not know how he did it,but all the other imprefections I can get with Photoshop.

Now I know some of you would say,why in the hell waste so much time on this movie,well I like it and the knowledge would come in handy on other projects too,I know AoD Primitive Screwhead Edition is out,but this still does NOT have all the scenes,and is missing alot,plus the echoey 5.1 sounds not to good on my system,and the switch in aspect ratio's bothers me too.

My version will have true DD 5.1 sound and the same aspect ratio throughout the whole movie.

so hopefully there are some After Effects CS3 Wizards here that can give me a hand,I know I am close,just not close enough,just show me something so I can figure it out and move on.

thanks in advance for any and all help

DJ
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I've never used After Effects. Can you post an example of the "terrible big black line"? I might be able to think of a way to remove it using AviSynth.

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Thanks M,
at least someone is trying to give me a hand,here is the worst of the buch.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/678/aod3527tp5.png
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How many contiguous frames are damaged? You can often solve this problem by 'borrowing' elements from the preceding and subsequent frames. This method is particularly effective when the damaged objects are nearly at rest (or have low velocity).

In this particular case, I would likely create a short BMP sequence (e.g., export from VirtualDub) and use PhotoShop to restore the damaged frames one at a time. You don't need AfterEffects for this type of repair task.

If the situation is such that several contiguous frames are damaged, and the face has moved too much, my recommendation is to edit out the damaged footage altogether. There are several clever ways to do this, such as briefly cutting to some other object while the principal is still speaking (i.e., you discard the video but keep the audio). The alternative--REPAINTING THE DAMAGE--is terribly frustrating and rarely turns out properly if you lack drawing and painting skills--like me

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Thanks alot for checking this out for me A-M,
There are 2 times this happens during this scene,and each for about 4 frames,but the pic I posted is the worst of all the frames.
and I do have the avi clip of just the bad spots,and I used VDub to get an image sequence as well.
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Blimey, that's is a big black line!

Last night I tried an AviSynth script with InpaintFunc(), but I couldn't get it to work. Just realised I wasn't loading the AVSInpaint.dll correctly. I will try again tonight.

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You might be able to minimize it in photoshop. It's only going to be for 1/30 (1/24) of a second, so it doesn't have to look perfect. Here's a really quick and dirty one I did. I clone brushed out the sky and selected just the black line over his face and altered the levels on it a bit. Took me 10 minutes.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1548/refbk2.jpg
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I was trying to figure out the best way to take care of your problem in Photoshop, when I thought of a little something that George taught me about how to hide things you're not happy with. As you can see it completely eliminates your black line. No thanks are necessary, I'm just sharing what I learned from the master.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t196/jenkinsjoinery/GLFIXcopy.jpg

FE<3OT

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Couldn't get that AviSynth inpaint function working at all.

For just a few frames, I'd try painting over by hand in Photoshop as caligulathegod did. You can then use AviSynth's imagesource to replace the damage frames with the fixed ones.

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http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5765/fixedzb4.jpg

Knackers.

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thanks M for your dedication to helping me,I got your email and thanks,I am still dinkin with AE and just cannot figure this shit out.

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Hey DarkJedi, if you could send me a second or two of video, I'd be happy to start a AE project file, do a little touch up, and send it back to you so you can see how I'd tackle it, and take over from there.

Let me know!

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Taolar,
I actually have a project file now that someone else has done,but I just cannot figure out how he did it,if I could just have a few pointers,even a little tutorial on how I am sure I can figure it out,so if you are interested in this project file I can send it to you.
and thanks a bunch for your assistance
let me know and I will rar it up and upload to rapidshare or anywhere of your choice.

thanks again

DJ
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Taloar,
I have sent you gmail and PM.

thanks again for taking a look,much appreciated.

DJ
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Hey dark_jedi,

Glad to see that another fan edit of this film is coming along the way. I wanted to make a recommendation to you about which source will give you the best results when it comes to processing the deleted Henry the Red scene. From the looks of the picture you put up, you are using the Anchor Bay disc as your source for the scene. What you need to know about that disc is that Anchor Bay did a bad inverse telecine on the video, and then further deteriorated the video when they enhanced it for 16:9. That's why there's a strange, interlaced appearance to it. Meanwhile, the Region 3 MGM DVD just uses a straight 4:3, interlaced transfer of the workprint footage provided to them. Although most of the workprint footage on the Region 3 disc has a strange interlace pattern(along with strange light blurs), the Henry the Red scene comes from a better source and has the normal 2:3 pulldown pattern - thus allowing you to inverse telecine the footage and get a higher quality result when compared to the Anchor Bay presentation.

Basically what I'm getting at, is that if you're going to go to all the work cleaning up the video like I did for the Primitive Screwhead Edition, then it makes sense for you to use the best source. Since pictures speak louder than words, I give you this comparison:

1st - the image you provided (presumably Region 1 Anchor Bay). 2nd - Region 3 Footage with Inverse Telecine and then resized to 16x9
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/678/aod3527tp5.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/RidgeShark/henrythered1-1.png

Look at the wrinkles around his eyes, the hair by his ear, and basically just anywhere else in the picture to see the improvement.

I hope this information helps you and your project out. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with. If you would like any high quality copies of my materials, then let me know.

-RS