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Author: Cobra Kai
Time: 20-Sep-2017 8:14 PM
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Yes, she never said anything of the sort. It’s pretty obvious after watching the full, uncut video. At first she had no clue what the guy was talking about. And then he has to specify and asks specifically if they will make further changes to the “special editions.”

That being said, I don’t think they have any plans to release the OUT.

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Author: crissrudd4554
Time: 20-Sep-2017 8:43 PM (Edited)
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I too have lost hope for an OUT release but if it does happen unlikely it’ll be without the SE’s. Without the PT I could see because fans already have methods of owning the OT and PT apart from each other.

Author: YodaFan67
Time: 21-Sep-2017 9:08 AM
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Cobra Kai said:

Yes, she never said anything of the sort. It’s pretty obvious after watching the full, uncut video. At first she had no clue what the guy was talking about. And then he has to specify and asks specifically if they will make further changes to the “special editions.”

That being said, I don’t think they have any plans to release the OUT.

If she couldn’t tell what he was hinting at, I don’t think we’re getting the OOT anytime soon.

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Author: ray_afraid
Time: 21-Sep-2017 9:10 AM
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YodaFan67 said:

Cobra Kai said:

Yes, she never said anything of the sort. It’s pretty obvious after watching the full, uncut video. At first she had no clue what the guy was talking about. And then he has to specify and asks specifically if they will make further changes to the “special editions.”

That being said, I don’t think they have any plans to release the OUT.

If she couldn’t tell what he was hinting at, I don’t think we’re getting the OOT anytime soon.

I wouldn’t have known he was taking about releasing the unaltered trilogy either. Seems he was asking if they had plans to make further changes to the SE.
I still don’t think we’re getting the OUT, but this Q&A reveals nothing other than they got no plans to make further changes to the SE.

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Author: YodaFan67
Time: 21-Sep-2017 9:15 AM
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ray_afraid said:

YodaFan67 said:

Cobra Kai said:

Yes, she never said anything of the sort. It’s pretty obvious after watching the full, uncut video. At first she had no clue what the guy was talking about. And then he has to specify and asks specifically if they will make further changes to the “special editions.”

That being said, I don’t think they have any plans to release the OUT.

If she couldn’t tell what he was hinting at, I don’t think we’re getting the OOT anytime soon.

I wouldn’t have known he was taking about releasing the unaltered trilogy either.

Oh. Heh, I didn’t actually watch the clip, so I might’ve underestimated how unclear the question was.

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Author: Haarspalter
Time: 21-Sep-2017 10:58 AM
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Mike O said:

Alderaan said:

Mike O said:

I just hate all the damn speculating. I wish Disney would give some kind of damn statement.

They already did. Kathleen Kennedy already said it’s not going to happen. Just a bunch of people who can’t take a hint and like to bury their heads in the sand.

I didn’t hear that, but heartbreaking as it is, it’s not surprising.

YodaFan67 said:

I just can’t see the OOT ever getting released on its own. As a 2nd disc feature, maybe.

IF the OOT was restored correctly, and I mean 100% correctly, […]

This will be an issue, if Disney is going to restore the OOT: What IS 100% correctly?

No matter how good, precise or accurate they could do it, there will be a certain amount of people who will shout out loud how wrong, imprecise or inaccurate their restoration is. They can’t please everyone because too much time has passed. Opinions on how the restoration should look & sound like are diverging day by day.

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Time: 21-Sep-2017 11:03 AM
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Haarspalter said:

Mike O said:

Alderaan said:

Mike O said:

I just hate all the damn speculating. I wish Disney would give some kind of damn statement.

They already did. Kathleen Kennedy already said it’s not going to happen. Just a bunch of people who can’t take a hint and like to bury their heads in the sand.

I didn’t hear that, but heartbreaking as it is, it’s not surprising.

YodaFan67 said:

I just can’t see the OOT ever getting released on its own. As a 2nd disc feature, maybe.

IF the OOT was restored correctly, and I mean 100% correctly, […]

This will be an issue, if Disney is going to restore the OOT: What IS 100% correctly?

No matter how good, precise or accurate they could do it, there will be a certain amount of people who will shout out loud how wrong, imprecise or inaccurate their restoration is. They can’t please everyone because too much time has passed. Opinions on how the restoration should look & sound like are diverging day by day.

Exact same reasons why a PT reboot would never work.

Author: Fang Zei
Time: 21-Sep-2017 11:15 AM
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Getting Robert A. Harris to supervise an OOT restoration would eliminate most disagreements about how it should look.

Author: YodaFan67
Time: 21-Sep-2017 11:50 AM
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For example, do they or do they not include “a new hope” in the crawl?

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Author: Haarspalter
Time: 21-Sep-2017 12:01 PM
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YodaFan67 said:

For example, do they or do they not include “a new hope” in the crawl?

Author: Possessed
Time: 21-Sep-2017 12:17 PM (Edited)
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And there will be people on this forum bitching about some aspects of the restoration if it ever happens, no matter what it ends up looking like.

Author: ray_afraid
Time: 21-Sep-2017 12:45 PM
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But it would give folks like Harmy better sources to work with.
That’s all I could hope for with it.

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Author: CHEWBAKAspelledwrong
Time: 21-Sep-2017 12:59 PM
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As long as the film is cut right and Han and Leia’s faces aren’t Magenta, I’d be happy. Everyone who thinks their specific color preferences should carry some weight because they’re reflected in print X or Y is neurotic, IMO. How green were the Death Star walls on a new 1977 Kodak print? I don’t care.

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Author: moviefreakedmind
Time: 21-Sep-2017 3:18 PM
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ray_afraid said:

But it would give folks like Harmy better sources to work with.
That’s all I could hope for with it.

Better sources for what? Slightly changing the color-correction?

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Author: ray_afraid
Time: 21-Sep-2017 3:34 PM
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Whatever it needs.

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Author: moviefreakedmind
Time: 21-Sep-2017 4:07 PM
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What would prompt you to download a fan edit? If it’s an OOT release on blu ray, why go to a fan edit?

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Author: ray_afraid
Time: 21-Sep-2017 4:39 PM
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I’ve got no faith in them to deliver an accurate OUT. Things like inaccurate re-comps ect.

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Author: moviefreakedmind
Time: 21-Sep-2017 4:43 PM
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My question is, what would prompt you to pirate a fanedit if they released the OUT on blu ray? Colors? An accurate re-comp? The lizard guy’s long sleeve t-shirt being puce instead of green?

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Author: ray_afraid
Time: 21-Sep-2017 4:44 PM
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moviefreakedmind said:

My question is, what would prompt you to pirate a fanedit if they released the OUT on blu ray?

I literally just answered that.

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Author: Mike O
Time: 21-Sep-2017 8:16 PM
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Haarspalter said:

Mike O said:

Alderaan said:

Mike O said:

I just hate all the damn speculating. I wish Disney would give some kind of damn statement.

They already did. Kathleen Kennedy already said it’s not going to happen. Just a bunch of people who can’t take a hint and like to bury their heads in the sand.

I didn’t hear that, but heartbreaking as it is, it’s not surprising.

YodaFan67 said:

I just can’t see the OOT ever getting released on its own. As a 2nd disc feature, maybe.

IF the OOT was restored correctly, and I mean 100% correctly, […]

This will be an issue, if Disney is going to restore the OOT: What IS 100% correctly?

No matter how good, precise or accurate they could do it, there will be a certain amount of people who will shout out loud how wrong, imprecise or inaccurate their restoration is. They can’t please everyone because too much time has passed. Opinions on how the restoration should look & sound like are diverging day by day.

Well, no including any of the changes from the 1997, 2004, and 2012 versions would be a good start.

YodaFan67 said:

For example, do they or do they not include “a new hope” in the crawl?

No. It wasn’t there in 1977, it shouldn’t be there.

Fang Zei said:

Getting Robert A. Harris to supervise an OOT restoration would eliminate most disagreements about how it should look.

Yeah, and I’m spending tomorrow night with Alexandra Daddario 🙄.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

As long as the film is cut right and Han and Leia’s faces aren’t Magenta, I’d be happy. Everyone who thinks their specific color preferences should carry some weight because they’re reflected in print X or Y is neurotic, IMO. How green were the Death Star walls on a new 1977 Kodak print? I don’t care.

If Lucas hadn’t bee fucking with the prints ever since it fucking came out, that might be easier to tell.

moviefreakedmind said:

What would prompt you to download a fan edit? If it’s an OOT release on blu ray, why go to a fan edit?

As long as he owns said release, I don’t necessarily see a problem.

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Author: ChainsawAsh
Time: 21-Sep-2017 9:34 PM
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No recomps or matte line erasing.

Choice between 1977 and 1981 crawls/opening shots through seamless branching.

Original six-track sound mix at minimum, original Dolby Stereo in addition would be a plus, original mono would be an even bigger plus. 85 and 93 home video remixes - meh.

Color timing reasonably accurate to 1977.

And then I’d be happy. In that scenario, worse comes to worst I’d do a regrade based on Neverar’s Technicolor and use the DTS audio tracks from Despecialized.

Author: crissrudd4554
Time: 21-Sep-2017 10:25 PM
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ray_afraid said:

YodaFan67 said:

Cobra Kai said:

Yes, she never said anything of the sort. It’s pretty obvious after watching the full, uncut video. At first she had no clue what the guy was talking about. And then he has to specify and asks specifically if they will make further changes to the “special editions.”

That being said, I don’t think they have any plans to release the OUT.

If she couldn’t tell what he was hinting at, I don’t think we’re getting the OOT anytime soon.

I wouldn’t have known he was taking about releasing the unaltered trilogy either. Seems he was asking if they had plans to make further changes to the SE.
I still don’t think we’re getting the OUT, but this Q&A reveals nothing other than they got no plans to make further changes to the SE.

This^

Author: Mike O
Time: 21-Sep-2017 10:25 PM
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Damn, my Despecialized only came with lossy DD 2.0. That’s what I get for paying 😉.

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Author: Possessed
Time: 22-Sep-2017 1:34 AM
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Yes and you should probably stop bringing it up. I trust that you learned your lesson but there’s no need to keep dragging it up.

But I could care less about anything as long as the original “cut” is there and there’s no cgi. As long as there’s no added scenes, changed dialogue, and nothing cgid over I’ll be happy. “Should” they recomp the elements? Probably not. But if they did it would it actually bother me enough to want to recreate the original flaws? No. They shouldn’t recomp it, but if it’s already done I don’t see something like that being worth the trouble to actually undo.

Author: J0E
Time: 22-Sep-2017 3:34 AM
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Mike O said:

Damn, my Despecialized only came with lossy DD 2.0. That’s what I get for paying 😉.

Here we go again…

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