3D STAR WARS for the masses...has ARRIVED! — Page 26

walking_carpet said:

i normally don't like to use anecdotal evidence, but at a superbowl party with a sharp 65' screen, we saw the commercial for the movie.  nobody booed or gave it a bronx cheer but a couple guys said 'with this big tv, why bother seeing it in the theatre? don't need the 3d".  the battleship and gi joe movies got more jeers.  surprisingly, not much enthusiasm for John Carter (man, did that commercial remind me of AOTC).

i mentioned earlier that the recent blu ray releases may put a damper on attendance - another factor is with big tvs becoming mainstream, maybe people won't care to go?

i wonder if we are going to reach a tipping point for cosumers preferring to watch movies at home because the flatscreens are large enough? ticket sales were down from 2010 to 2011 - but that was because of avatar.

anyways, i don't know what opening weekend grosses will be, but overall running I say absolute rock bottom $12 million and no more than $35 million.  Im using the lion king and BATB releases as a guide.

damn, im tired.  time for bed

John Carter I'm kind of interested in. PIXAR have always been real great artists and I like Stanton's work and it's based on a classic book. The Disney logo makes one worry and the trailers haven't been impressive, but I'll give it a shot.

TheBoost said:

 He probably doesn't rationally know why his films were genius anymore than he knows why his other films are so dissapointing.

 i think he knows. he ended the Making of TPM book by saying "for every perosn that likes star wars, 3 people will hate it". WTF!?  then he did all those 'interviews' preceding the premiere saying how everyone hates him, etc.  it was all cover because he knew the movie was bad. 

the problem is - for a great deal of classic moments, characters, designs etc -  he wasn't actively and as intimately involved in the creations, so he cannot recreate it even if he knows what he is seeing.  The score is I think the greatest example.  Credit him for wanting a symphonic score as opposed to synthesized music that was trendy in the 70s.  but he didn't expect in a million years for john williams to come up with THAT.  any symphonic score would have been fine and thats why we have all those annoying cut/paste jobs in the PT :(

plus the fact he almost certainly does not care and will continue to infantilize SW and just aim for lowest, easiest common denominator :(

Bingowings said:

That but also include long discussions about tax and beheadings, immolations, infanticide etc.

 now be fair, no babies were killed. just kids - er, i mean younglings

zombie84 said:

I think he actually wanted Williams to use either classical pieces a la 2001, or Korngold's music from stuff like Captain Blood. And then Williams said he could do something like that but original and better and he came back with the SW score. I'm probably mixing up the details but that's sort of how that happened.

 for the 1995 vhs releases, he told leonard maltin that he writes his screenplays to music.  he wrote this on one of the CD releases as well.  But the PT footage of him writing doesn't have any music playing in the background. not to mention it sort of conflicts his 'non-linear 3 dimensional editing' philosophy.

was this yet another lie? or another exaggeration - like how we all listen to our ipods when working, but thats not the same thing as 'writing to music'.

I love how ImpFight is playing with the title of the thread. Maybe it can just be "The Star Wars 3D Thread"?

Tobar said:

bkev said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

 

ImperialFighter said:

George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)

The skeptic in me wonders if he "doesn't like" that sort of 3D because he can't do it with the source material he has.  Because that statement is inconsistent with Sy Snootles' ROTJ Special Edition lips.

I'm going to have to disagree based on the new Star Tours.  Outside of one shot, at least on my path, the 3D was more about depth and perspective than shock and amazement with things popping out at you.  That project suggests that he actually means it when he says he's not crazy about 3D as a spectacle, but more as an enhancement.

You're inside a ship on that ride. You can't have stuff popping out at you all the time unless you're supposed to be sucked out into space. The only appropriate time to have something pop out at you is if it literally bursts through the cockpit window.

Which is how the ride ends, so I still call bullshit.

ImperialFighter said:

George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)

walking_carpet said:

zombie84 said:

I think he actually wanted Williams to use either classical pieces a la 2001, or Korngold's music from stuff like Captain Blood. And then Williams said he could do something like that but original and better and he came back with the SW score. I'm probably mixing up the details but that's sort of how that happened.

for the 1995 vhs releases, he told leonard maltin that he writes his screenplays to music.  he wrote this on one of the CD releases as well.  But the PT footage of him writing doesn't have any music playing in the background. not to mention it sort of conflicts his 'non-linear 3 dimensional editing' philosophy.

was this yet another lie? or another exaggeration - like how we all listen to our ipods when working, but thats not the same thing as 'writing to music'.

I'd always assumed that any time we see Lucas writing in one of those documentaries, it's staged. The crew need a few shots of him scribbling stuff so that's what he does.

Wrong way: starting from cleverness and giveall of it and end in absurdity/ridiculousness (ex: politics)

Right way: starting from absurdity/stupidity and show it in all its magnificence. Thus you may well end with a clever piece of work. (ex: some fictions, cartoons and so on...).

zombie84 said:

I think he actually wanted Williams to use either classical pieces a la 2001, or Korngold's music from stuff like Captain Blood. And then Williams said he could do something like that but original and better and he came back with the SW score.

didn't know if this was already mentioned but want to take this moment to wish cinema's greatest composer a Happy 80th Birthday!!

this man is a living treasure.  If you made a top ten list of the most recognizable film scores of all time, he would have at least 5.

George's letter to short list:

http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/2012/Shortlist2.jpg

And it's also funny, how he says that 3D vs 2D is like colour film vs. black and white. So basically 3D conversion of 2D films is the exact same thing as colourising a B&W film?

 http://savestarwars.com/lucasspeechagainstspecialedition.html

Harmy said:

And it's also funny, how he says that 3D vs 2D is like colour film vs. black and white. So basically 3D conversion of 2D films is the exact same thing as colourising a B&W film?

Man, that's exactly what I was thinkin'! Surely the ghost of his former self haunts him at night.

Well, the thing is, I'm sure you can always watch a 3D film in 2D.