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Grinder's PAL first issues transfer (* unfinished project *)

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I finally got around to transfering this unique LD set. I’ve never seen a transfer of it, and it certainly deserves it to be preserved. The ANH LD is from '82, TESB from '85 and ROTJ from '86. The image is so clear, sharp, and has such an authentic look to it, it’s my favorite SW LD set. It looks very “unprocessed”, probably because it is just that. And on top of that they rival the official (widescreen) DVD release in detail. Certainly the detail in near-dark sequences. The only drawback: it’s P&S. Except for the entire crawl-shots of ANH and ROTJ, which are enhanced anamorphic widescreen. I say enhanced, because there are no black bars present, so you’d actually have to scale it down to fit it in the normal aspect ratio if you were making a widescreen SW DVD.

ANH has got some noticeable laserrot though. So when I got that disc, and was stunned by its appearance, I started looking for two additional discs so I could use TooT. I would have done that, but on one of the discs the rot is so bad that a particular 5 minute sequence can’t actually be read anymore by both of my players! The only way I could get around that would be to accept the rot in that sequence, and let TooT filter out all the other rot. I may still do that, but not for now, with the september release coming up and the faded interest in preservation efforts. Though I expect these transfers to even have advantage over the official OT releases. But let’s cut all the speculations on that, and hope to be pleasantly surprised on that 11th of september. TESB and ROTJ are rot free by the way.

I am doing a complete preservation, capturing all the footage on the LD, including copyright warnings and such. ROTJ even has a trailer for another movie before the feature starts! I was thinking about leaving the side breaks too, because of the “side 2” screen, but I decided to leave that out. Apart from that I’m doing nothing more than encoding to MPEG-2 and AC3 to fot on a DVD5. I will be using the Pioneer DVL-909 again: still haven’t got that 2950 looked at. It gives a slightly sharper and cleaner image, except for the extensive amount of chroma noise. Does anyone know what causes that by the way? Anyway, the 909 is one of the best PAL machines too, so you’re talking about 1% differences here.

ANH will be up on a.b.starwars by the end of the week, it will include English and Dutch subtitles, as with my previous transfers.

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http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/firstissuesset.jpg

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Interesting. What capture device did you use, and did you calibrate it first (remembering the screenshot you posted a while ago of PAL video being too dark).
Any chance of a sample/some screenshots?

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I use a Sony DCR HC40E for the DV capturing. It can only deal with PAL, so nothing needs to be (or can be) calibrated on that. The screens I posted in the X0 thread were from quick caps I did with the DVD-recorder, I assume it adjusts itself to PAL and NTSC depending on what you're recording. I should have scaled up that NTSC shot instead of the other way around, but I don't see how the black level can be off. Those '95 PAL releases are just damn dark. Here are a couple of screens from ANH (it's OK to drool):

http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s1.jpg

http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s2.jpg

http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s3.jpg

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http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s6.jpg

http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s7.jpg

http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s8.jpg

http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s9.jpg

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Not to be a smartass but what is the difference from this and any other release.


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Originally posted by: Marvolo
Not to be a smartass but what is the difference from this and any other release.


Please read the first post of this thread, thank you.

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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
This sounds awesome. Maybe you can include the side flip screens in the bonus features.


Well, they're not that spectacular...

http://www.student.ru.nl/tomdriessen/s10.jpg

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I did read the first post, and when you say "complete preservation" do you mean a "Zion type preservation" or do you mean "you are just preserving them on DVD untouched and original."


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That would be the latter. But I don't know what you mean exactly by a "Zion type preservation".

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Originally posted by: Grinder
That would be the latter. But I don't know what you mean exactly by a "Zion type preservation".


What I meant to say instead of "Zion type preservation" was the "XO Project type preservation."


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Aaargh! I did the most stupid thing. I formatted and re-installed my hard-drive, and I thought I had backed up the mpv file for ANH, but apparently I didn't. So I'll have to capture it all anew... I plan on doing that some time next week.

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Wow, that sucks! I did something similar once

Hope to see the completed transfer one day.
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was this project ever actually completed?

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No it wasn't, but I'm still planning on it. I've been away for a while, first time I log in in 3 months. I'll post here when I'm going to work on them again, just don't have the time right now.

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