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@Aleksbmw

You should probably make your own thread (like you stated) if you are going to go about this feat

Posting in here about an awesome laserdisc transfer is only going to result in two things
1. People not taking you seriously due to prior occurrences
2. A curse for you to start something wonderful and then not finish it

Many of us still feel the pain of X0 and still want to believe the day that something significant will come of it though

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@Aleksbmw

You should probably make your own thread (like you stated) if you are going to go about this feat

Posting in here about an awesome laserdisc transfer is only going to result in two things
1. People not taking you seriously due to prior occurrences
2. A curse for you to start something wonderful and then not finish it

Many of us still feel the pain of X0 and still want to believe the day that something significant will come of it though

Even film to dvd projects have been a kick in the face to all of us. You just have to promise you will do it. I will fully support you and I will be willing to help on it too Aleksbmw.

We welcome any transfer with open arms. But as CompMovie said please don't leave If your plate is too full like some preservationists please warn us if you don't want/can't do it.

Welcome to the boards. And don't be afraid to ask anybody for help with colour correction or video enhancing (DJ is making the GOUT look pretty good). We are dying for a project like this.

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Blimey, don't scare the guy off! ;) There's nothing wrong with announcing intentions, and I don't think people should have to 'promise' to do anything. Don't give someone the 'you better not rip us off' treatment as soon as they walk in the door.

I know part of the reason for these well-intentioned--though not the most welcoming--comments is because he announced his project in the XØ thread (which was a questionable idea), but still...

 

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I did it because i thought im not ready to start a new thread yet, intentions exactly. And i can tell you right now im not going to drop this, was part of the reason i got all this gear in the first place. Thought i could cheer people up a bit, good luck with the X0 project also by the way.

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I didn't mean it in a bad way. I just don't want to see something so cool and amazing get slammed to a hault.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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The laserdisc logo was one of the pre-defined avatars on the old board. I think both Laserman and MeBeJedi used it at one time or another.

Alek, thanks for your post, more laserdisc capture discussion is always welcome here. Looking forward to seeing some screenshots. Do you have any intention to capture any pre-THX discs at all (e.g. the Japanese Special Collection or US Special Widescreen Edition)?

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Had my eye on the Special Collection, especially since it was a fresh transfer (back then) without any noise reduction. You need some unearthly equipment to get something nice out of it tho, the "V8" team spoke of a noisy image and haloing. The first is in part due to the simple compromise design of the player for very long lasting use, overbuilt but not in a videophile way. One common powersupply for the entire unit etc. Also no broadcast grade Tbc correction. The second is bnc - rca impedance mismatch, and the simple wiring to the bnc connectors on the player. Thats the way it is for bulk production unfortunately.

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Aleksbmw: Whoa, a customized laser disk player, sounds very cool! :)

Just wondering, if you're going to spend that much on equipment and customizing, wouldn't it have been better to start with an X0 player and then super charge it with all the best hardware you can think of to absolutely maximize video capture clarity, color accuracy and detail? I thought the X0 player was supposed to be the ultimate in quality, so it makes sense that it would make for the best base high-end player to mod. Or perhaps this Sony C2Ex player has some qualities that made it a better candidate for modding? In it's modded state, do you think it can make better captures than even the X0 project's X0 player?

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Zion said:

That aside, it'd be a shame if the X0 captures never saw the light of day. I definitely want to release something, we'll have to decide in the near future exactly what.

Not to sound incredulous but have the past 3 months been enough time to decide? Zion you still with us?

 

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Hello:

I'm up to reading page 24 of this X0 project thread on originaltrilogy forum   I was wondering if you would be able to tell me what specific hardware and software you used for your project.
Also, I'm trying to get access to or purchase a HLD-X0 player to do laser disc captures of CAV NTSC Japanese animation, such as Macross: Do you remember love? movie. 
You have been an inspiration for getting other laser disc projects started.

Thank you!
boinger

 

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Update:

After reading through two X0 project threads and the X0 website, here's my summary of what I found.

 

X0 project Project Summary:

4 people in group
(1 for LD capturing, 1 video processing, 1 colour correction, 1 video clean-up)

ANH, ESB captured, ROTJ partial capture

video processing guy too sick to finish work on project
colour correction guy too busy with film school to finish work on project
video clean-up guy unable to finish project without other guys
Project on indefinite hiatus since autumn 2006.

Hardware used:

1. pioneer hld-x0 laser disk player

2. pixel magic pdi deluxe pci capture card
(direct BNC connection to laser disk player for raw avi capture with huffyuv codec. IVTC 30fps to 24fps applied.)

3. RF demodulator for capturing RF/ac3 LD sound output

4. possible video processor placed between laser disc player and pdi capture card for external 3d comb filtering
(unknown?)
a. Monster Entech CVSI-1 RCA to SVHS converter
b. DVDO HD Edge video processor
c. Crystallio II, Lumagen, Sweetspot video processor?

5. Video Essential Laser Disc for colour correction of laser disc player before capturing

6. 8 DVD-Rs used to capture 2 hour Star Wars ANH in raw huffyuv avi format

Software used:

1. Video processing done after video capture:

Black Magic System developed by X0 project team member Laserman
a. Final Cut Pro + Shake + customized script
(discontinued Mac software with unknown script)

PAL and NTSC versions of Star Wars are combined to stabilize and bring out more detailed resolution from the LD captures.

b. Boujou software
(pixel tracking?)
c. expensive video production computer hardware
(unknown)

2. Colour Correction process:

a. Adobe premiere
b. Colourimeter
c. Avid Media Composer
d. Discreet Lustre
e. Synthetic Aperature: Color Finesse

3. Video Clean-up process:

a. Eeyeon Combustion for clean up of specks, etc
b. TooT script/software by Karyudo
(Unavailable. Used to reduce noise and eliminate frame dropouts.)
c.Avisynth + VirtualDub
i. despot
ii. descratch

That's all I can gather from what I've read.

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vbangle said:

Zion said:

That aside, it'd be a shame if the X0 captures never saw the light of day. I definitely want to release something, we'll have to decide in the near future exactly what.

Not to sound incredulous but have the past 3 months been enough time to decide? Zion you still with us?

 

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Hmm... I was kinda hoping for a bigger announcement when I saw there was a contribution from Zion.

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Zion said:

vbangle said:

Zion said:

That aside, it'd be a shame if the X0 captures never saw the light of day. I definitely want to release something, we'll have to decide in the near future exactly what.

Not to sound incredulous but have the past 3 months been enough time to decide? Zion you still with us?

 

Not sure if anyone here noticed, but I'm the head admin on the TFN forums now. I don't get over here as much as I'd like to anymore.

Zion has officially joined the dark side, so what kind of sith lord are you?  LOL.

Just kidding hopefully you being a moderator there means the oot gets a bit more respect and the prequels being allowed to be bashed.

Sorry i meant head admin, my mistake.

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It's an AviSynth filter designed to eliminate defects, dropouts and so on. It's used on three different captures and works by averaging the best "Two Out Of Three"sources.

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For anyone involved, how complete is this project? 50% 70% 30%?

Just curious. I certainly hope all is well with the project participants.

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Zion said:

vbangle said:

Zion said:

That aside, it'd be a shame if the X0 captures never saw the light of day. I definitely want to release something, we'll have to decide in the near future exactly what.

Not to sound incredulous but have the past 3 months been enough time to decide? Zion you still with us?

 

Not sure if anyone here noticed, but I'm the head admin on the TFN forums now. I don't get over here as much as I'd like to anymore.

Well another 6 months and no X0 captures.

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Why do you of all people do this V? Especially after all that shit you've posted before in here, you're the one digging up the past now. If they ever have anything to show us, they probably will.


Also, the website's gone. Don't know how long it has been, but it is.

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irn-bru is a DAYV sock.  I knew it all along!

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irn-bru said:

ITS A PITY NOTHING HAS COME FROM THIS PROJECT. ANOTHER PROJECT JUST LIKE ALEKSBMW THREAD THAT HAS COME TO NOTHING. PITY.

 Why? It makes at least one thing for you to hope for... Or dream about. I think it's great ! :)

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