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How to make a Star Wars DVD with the restored mono mix PCM

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See thread describing the mono mix restoration project:
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=7222

Here's a quick guide to create a DVD with this audio track:

1. Copy the files from the Region 1 GOUT disc onto your hard drive using DVD Decrypter.

2. Using PgcDemux, demux the MPEG-2 video and alien subtitles, and extract celltimes.txt. (Do not use IfoEdit to demux the subs or Muxman will throw up an error later on).

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3. Open the mono mix WAV with an audio editor (e.g. Sound Forge, Audacity) and insert 1.017s of silence at the start of the file; save.

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4. Use Muxman (standard version) to multiplex the M2V video, delay-corrected WAV audio and subtitles, using the celltimes.txt file to set chapter points.

5. Use IfoEdit to copy the subtitle colour palette from the official disc, VTS_03_0.IFO, PGC1, and paste into VTS_01_0.IFO of your newly authored DVD (if you don't do this, Greedo's subs will appear in red text!)

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(6. At this point I used PgcEdit to insert a pre-command to turn the subtitles on by default; not sure if this step is necessary or not.)

7. Use ImgBurn in build mode to build the disc image and burn to a dual-layer disc.

Post here with any questions/comments, or if you need a more detailed guide.

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Thanks for posting this.

I guess you could post links on where to get all those programs which would save some time...

Otherwise, I was curious, is there an easy way to strip out the "Lego Star Wars" stuff and how much space would that free up on the DVD?

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Could you please post a more detailed guide to this? I know I'm almost there, but there's something I'm not quite doing right. (I believe I'm messing up somewhere with the chapter points) Anyway, a more detailed guide would be much appreciated!
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Originally posted by: Kurgan
I guess you could post links on where to get all those programs which would save some time... Done.
Otherwise, I was curious, is there an easy way to strip out the "Lego Star Wars" stuff and how much space would that free up on the DVD?
This method strips out everything, you're basically re-authoring a movie-only disc. I think the disc comes to about 7GB, which still leaves about 1GB spare on a DL disc.Originally posted by: livserge
Could you please post a more detailed guide to this?
Sure. Which part do you need more details on? Is it getting the celltimes.txt from PgcDemux or using it with Muxman?

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Well, I guess sort of both. Somewhere between extracting celltimes with PgcDemux and using these celltimes to set chapter points with Muxman, I'm screwing up somewhere. I guess I need a more detailed guide with these points. Thanks!
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I also seem to be having some issues with the process. I should first say that all of these programs are new to me but from opening them, they seem straight forward enough, so I doubt I'm doing anything wrong, but I really just don't know.

1) What boxes should be checked in PgcDemux? Which IFO file do I use? (just VIDEO_TS?) And what files should I expect from the output? (I think I'm missing the subtitles, see next question)

2) What is the file extension I should be looking for for the subs portion of the Muxman step?


More questions to come I'm sure but that's as far as I got. I noticed I didn't have a file to enter for the subs so I stopped there. Thanks in advance.
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The IFO file to use is the one containing the main movie - in this case, VTS_03_0.IFO.
I've inserted an image showing the options to use. You should end up with:

VideoFile.m2v (about 5.86 GB)
Subpictures_21.sup (41 KB, you don't need the other subpictures)
Celltimes.txt (1 KB)

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Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! I've now got it! This is VERY much appreciated! You guys are awesome. I tip my hat to you all!
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Thanks for the added info Moth3r but I still have one more thing to check with you. I got through steps 4 just fine (thanks to your help), 3 was the easiest part for me cause audio editing is more my thing then video which is pretty new to me. I'm still a little stuck on step 5. I've opened IfoEdit and opened the two different ifo files from the original and the new one. I'm assuming to fix the sub color I just need to use the command at the top "subtitle color" to copy and paste the old color into the new ifo.

In the ifo tree at the top, what pgc subdirectory do I copy from and into? Is that even how you do it?
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I could also use some assistance with how to do steps 5 and 6. Other than that, I've got it all. Thanks so much Moth3r for taking the time to put up screenshots as they really helped.

Originally posted by: thrilhous86
Thanks for the added info Moth3r but I still have one more thing to check with you. I got through steps 4 just fine (thanks to your help), 3 was the easiest part for me cause audio editing is more my thing then video which is pretty new to me. I'm still a little stuck on step 5. I've opened IfoEdit and opened the two different ifo files from the original and the new one. I'm assuming to fix the sub color I just need to use the command at the top "subtitle color" to copy and paste the old color into the new ifo.

In the ifo tree at the top, what pgc subdirectory do I copy from and into? Is that even how you do it?


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Sorry about the delay, I haven't forgotten. I will update this thread with the IfoEdit step later this evening.

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Added more info to step 5.

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I keep getting a "multiplex operation failed" in MuxMan - it says "probably due to excessive bit rate." I've followed your directions exactly ... is there a way around this? Will I have to turn this into an ac3 to burn it?
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No, I can confirm that it will mux with mono PCM. Did you perhaps save the delay-corrected audio as stereo PCM by mistake?

This error can also occur if you use IfoEdit instead of PgcDemux to demux the subtitles.

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No, I did absolutely everything exactly the way your guide said to, unless Adobe Audition would save it as a stereo PCM without my knowledge.
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Well, how big is the WAV file it saved? Should be 665MB.

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It's mono.

Although a long time ago i converted my GOUT to anamorphic, but I kept everything else, I just reencoded the video (it kept the same menus, audio, subtitles, everything). I figured it wouldn't make a difference because all the audio that was on the original GOUT is on my anamorphic copy as well ... am I wrong?
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A mono PCM track is 768kbps; three stereo AC3 tracks are 576kbps. It sounds like your re-encoded video contains sections where the bitrate is too high to multiplex with the PCM.

The maximum allowable bitrate for video+audio+subs on a DVD is 10.08Mbps. From what I gather about Muxman, it can deal with the occasional spike above this value, but any sustained excess will cause the muxing operation to fail. (Which is a good thing, because playback of such a disc would be problematic on some DVD players).

So yes, in your case you will need to compress the audio to AC3 or MP2, or encode the video again using a lower maximum bitrate.

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How do you add the pre-command to turn on subtitles? Or is this, indeed, not necessary?

--edit--

Nevermind, I got it - it's burning now.

And for the record I used the nonanamorphic GOUT - I'm going to try to reencode this version later on for anamorphic.

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Oddly enough, the forced subtitle tag only worked on 1 of the 3 players I tested it on. Slightly inconvenient.
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Even stranger - the disc I burned with the isoscore soundtrack had optional subs, and one of my players has them on by default.

Time to read up about subtitles/DVD authoring on Doom9.

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Forced subs using PgcEdit.
Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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That's the guide I used; it actually uses PgcEdit not IfoEdit (the earlier guide to IfoEdit is HERE).

Chainsawash, go into your player's setup menu and check it's set up to use English as the default subtitle language.

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Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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I don't know if I'm doing something wrong on step 4, but this isn't coming out very well. I'm deviating from the guide a tiny bit, and keeping both English audio tracks and subtitles, but I don't see how that would be screwing this up...anyway, I can't get PowerDVD to run it properly.

 

I've got VIDEO_TS.BUP and .IFO, and I've got VTS_01_0.BUP and .IFO, and VTS_01_1 through 5.VOBs.

 

VIDEO_TS and VTS_01_0 will just play the first chapter and then quit, or quit if I click "next", even though it's reporting 51 chapters.

 

Maybe I'll just start over and see if it does it again.

 

Edit: Okay, that fixed it somehow. Only thing I did different is I imported the chapters before I set up everything else, instead of afterwards. Heads up for anyone else, I guess?

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I have the PAL DVD but the NTSC mono mix (couldn't find the PAL mono mix). How can I convert the NTSC mix to PAL?

And is the tutorial the same otherwise? Are the 1.017s the same for PAL?