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Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

noonecaresbut.you

i said notone word toyu.yur just a troublmaker and a bandwagoner.you started carp with me.ssa

high-five
I was about to make that joke but couldn’t remember quite how it went.

Don’t do drugs, unless you’re with me.

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yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Jeebus said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.

Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.

Not factual.

Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.

And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!

Prove it.

##### *NO.*****

Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.

The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.

No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.

Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.

Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.

The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.

Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.

How is having file extensions “working against the user”? How does having a jpeg at the end affect my experience at all?

You can’t name the file whatever you want.

How? I can name my files whatever I want. The file extension isn’t the file name. I type in the file name, and the file name extension comes after that by default (it’s just labeling the file type in an easily viewed manner). It’s not oppressing me in any way, because I can still name my file whatever I want. And if I don’t want to see the file type at the end of the file name, I can turn it off.

Even though you can turn it off, it’s still there. That’s not a solution. When you call something like that a solution, something is wrong with your system.

You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.

Also, file name extensions look ugly.

So what? And not everyone thinks they are, so I wouldn’t go resorting to that kind of half assed argument when you’re trying to explain why you’re right about something.

I don’t want ugly things on my computer. Simple as that.

“You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.”

Also, as you and others refuse to accept, you should not ever have file metadata in the file name.

The file type is actually kind of important for the user to know sometimes. There is nothing wrong with the file type being displayed along with the file name.

Yes, there is, for all the reasons I have explained.

You haven’t given any reasons beyond “user’s space.” What the crap does that even mean?

The user’s space is something that only the user should be able to modify and that any technical limitations shouldn’t come into. It’s just offensive for that baggage to be there. This is a fundamental truth. Simple as that.

How is a file type being labeled as a name extension a technical limitation? I can even change the file extension if I want to (this won’t always yield promising results, though).

(this won’t always yield promising results, though)

That’s the problem.

It’s a technical limitation that Microsoft imposed on themselves when creating the Windows OS. They just decided that file name extensions were “good enough,” which they are totally not.

Also, a mother limitation of file name extension is the three letter extension convention. Yes, you can make a file name extension longer than three letters, but almost nobody does that. So, you can have many conflicting file name extensions. It is not unreasonable to think that a user would have two or more different apps on a computer that use the same file name extension for data storage.

If you know what you’re doing with file type extensions, they’re great and easy. I’ve personally never once had conflicting extensions in my decade plus of Windows use.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

END OF LINE

(It hasn’t happened yet)

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Neglify said:

Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

noonecaresbut.you

i said notone word toyu.yur just a troublmaker and a bandwagoner.you started carp with me.ssa

high-five
I was about to make that joke but couldn’t remember quite how it went.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Jeebus said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.

Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.

Not factual.

Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.

And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!

Prove it.

##### *NO.*****

Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.

The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.

No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.

Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.

Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.

The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.

Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.

How is having file extensions “working against the user”? How does having a jpeg at the end affect my experience at all?

You can’t name the file whatever you want.

How? I can name my files whatever I want. The file extension isn’t the file name. I type in the file name, and the file name extension comes after that by default (it’s just labeling the file type in an easily viewed manner). It’s not oppressing me in any way, because I can still name my file whatever I want. And if I don’t want to see the file type at the end of the file name, I can turn it off.

Even though you can turn it off, it’s still there. That’s not a solution. When you call something like that a solution, something is wrong with your system.

You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.

Also, file name extensions look ugly.

So what? And not everyone thinks they are, so I wouldn’t go resorting to that kind of half assed argument when you’re trying to explain why you’re right about something.

I don’t want ugly things on my computer. Simple as that.

“You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.”

Also, as you and others refuse to accept, you should not ever have file metadata in the file name.

The file type is actually kind of important for the user to know sometimes. There is nothing wrong with the file type being displayed along with the file name.

Yes, there is, for all the reasons I have explained.

You haven’t given any reasons beyond “user’s space.” What the crap does that even mean?

The user’s space is something that only the user should be able to modify and that any technical limitations shouldn’t come into. It’s just offensive for that baggage to be there. This is a fundamental truth. Simple as that.

How is a file type being labeled as a name extension a technical limitation? I can even change the file extension if I want to (this won’t always yield promising results, though).

(this won’t always yield promising results, though)

That’s the problem.

It’s a technical limitation that Microsoft imposed on themselves when creating the Windows OS. They just decided that file name extensions were “good enough,” which they are totally not.

I doubt they assumed they were “good enough.” They probably realized it was a good way to go with it. Because it is. There’s nothing wrong with it.

Also, a mother limitation of file name extension is the three letter extension convention. Yes, you can make a file name extension longer than three letters, but almost nobody does that. So, you can have many conflicting file name extensions. It is not unreasonable to think that a user would have two or more different apps on a computer that use the same file name extension for data storage.

What Tyrphanax said.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Jeebus said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.

Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.

Not factual.

Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.

And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!

Prove it.

##### *NO.*****

Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.

The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.

No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.

Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.

Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.

The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.

Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.

How is having file extensions “working against the user”? How does having a jpeg at the end affect my experience at all?

You can’t name the file whatever you want.

How? I can name my files whatever I want. The file extension isn’t the file name. I type in the file name, and the file name extension comes after that by default (it’s just labeling the file type in an easily viewed manner). It’s not oppressing me in any way, because I can still name my file whatever I want. And if I don’t want to see the file type at the end of the file name, I can turn it off.

Even though you can turn it off, it’s still there. That’s not a solution. When you call something like that a solution, something is wrong with your system.

You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.

Also, file name extensions look ugly.

So what? And not everyone thinks they are, so I wouldn’t go resorting to that kind of half assed argument when you’re trying to explain why you’re right about something.

I don’t want ugly things on my computer. Simple as that.

“You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.”

Also, as you and others refuse to accept, you should not ever have file metadata in the file name.

The file type is actually kind of important for the user to know sometimes. There is nothing wrong with the file type being displayed along with the file name.

Yes, there is, for all the reasons I have explained.

You haven’t given any reasons beyond “user’s space.” What the crap does that even mean?

The user’s space is something that only the user should be able to modify and that any technical limitations shouldn’t come into. It’s just offensive for that baggage to be there. This is a fundamental truth. Simple as that.

How is a file type being labeled as a name extension a technical limitation? I can even change the file extension if I want to (this won’t always yield promising results, though).

(this won’t always yield promising results, though)

That’s the problem.

It’s a technical limitation that Microsoft imposed on themselves when creating the Windows OS. They just decided that file name extensions were “good enough,” which they are totally not.

Also, a mother limitation of file name extension is the three letter extension convention. Yes, you can make a file name extension longer than three letters, but almost nobody does that. So, you can have many conflicting file name extensions. It is not unreasonable to think that a user would have two or more different apps on a computer that use the same file name extension for data storage.

If you know what you’re doing with file type extensions, they’re great and easy. I’ve personally never once had conflicting extensions in my decade plus of Windows use.

If you know what you’re doing with file type extensions

That seems impossible, since the system basically forces you to use the correct one.

I’ve personally never once had conflicting extensions in my decade plus of Windows use.

And while it may not have happened to you, a system in which such a thing is possible is a bad system. MIME types are even worse for this.

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Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Jeebus said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.

Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.

Not factual.

Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.

And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!

Prove it.

##### *NO.*****

Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.

The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.

No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.

Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.

Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.

The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.

Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.

How is having file extensions “working against the user”? How does having a jpeg at the end affect my experience at all?

You can’t name the file whatever you want.

How? I can name my files whatever I want. The file extension isn’t the file name. I type in the file name, and the file name extension comes after that by default (it’s just labeling the file type in an easily viewed manner). It’s not oppressing me in any way, because I can still name my file whatever I want. And if I don’t want to see the file type at the end of the file name, I can turn it off.

Even though you can turn it off, it’s still there. That’s not a solution. When you call something like that a solution, something is wrong with your system.

You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.

Also, file name extensions look ugly.

So what? And not everyone thinks they are, so I wouldn’t go resorting to that kind of half assed argument when you’re trying to explain why you’re right about something.

I don’t want ugly things on my computer. Simple as that.

“You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.”

Also, as you and others refuse to accept, you should not ever have file metadata in the file name.

The file type is actually kind of important for the user to know sometimes. There is nothing wrong with the file type being displayed along with the file name.

Yes, there is, for all the reasons I have explained.

You haven’t given any reasons beyond “user’s space.” What the crap does that even mean?

The user’s space is something that only the user should be able to modify and that any technical limitations shouldn’t come into. It’s just offensive for that baggage to be there. This is a fundamental truth. Simple as that.

How is a file type being labeled as a name extension a technical limitation? I can even change the file extension if I want to (this won’t always yield promising results, though).

(this won’t always yield promising results, though)

That’s the problem.

It’s a technical limitation that Microsoft imposed on themselves when creating the Windows OS. They just decided that file name extensions were “good enough,” which they are totally not.

I doubt they assumed they were “good enough.” They probably realized it was a good way to go with it. Because it is. There’s nothing wrong with it.

There are a whole lot of things wrong with it.

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yhwx said:

Also, human drivers kill themselves all the time. Almost 40,000 (or maybe 4,000 — not sure) people die in car accidents every year.

And there are also idiots who try water-cooling their computers by sticking a hose in a slot in the tower and letting it fill up.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.

Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.

Not factual.

Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.

And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!

Prove it.

##### *NO.*****

Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.

The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.

No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.

Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.

Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.

The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.

Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.

They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Yep.

The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.

Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.

I wasn’t even talking about aesthetics (barring the laptop comment. I mean, why shouldn’t you have a laptop you like the look of?). I was partly talking about UX, and also the way Windows feels. Windows feels clunky, and as I have said before, actively working against you.

I will agree that Apple sometimes tend to go too much towards the aesthetic side of things, but that tends to happen more in their hardware than their software. And, Apple is much better than Microsoft in this regard.

I dunno what version of Windows you last used (maybe ME?), but maybe its your unfamiliarity with the OS that makes it feel that way because if anything it’s getting more hand-holdy and annoyingly automatic like OSX is.

I last used Windows 10, for about six months. I hated every moment of it.

And I never understood the complaint that OS X is “hand-holdy.” If anything, Microsoft is more like that with their Tips app. And why wouldn’t you want things to be automatic? I mean, I love writing shell scripts as much as the next person, but I like automation.

Also, if anything, I enjoy having file type extensions that I can edit easily to make .bats, or backups, or configs, or scripts, or whatever else I may need.

Macs have been doing that for years, even before the integration of Unix into the OS.

I have no idea what the Tips app is, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since launch.

I just remember in some version of Windows Microsoft tried to walk you through the non-intuitive Metro UI. Which should not have been necessary, since Microsoft should have been able to make the UI usable enough to not need those instructions.

I don’t want things to be automatic because I like to control things myself. I’d much rather opt in than opt out.

I feel that Macs have pretty much the same automation level as Windows. I mean, I never got why people like the feeling of a manual machine that you have to control yourself. Just seems pointless and a waste of time.

I dunno how everything being about three or four clicks away from the desktop isn’t intuitive. I’m annoyed with the splitting of Control Panel into the Control Panel and the mostly-redundant-yet-less-functional Settings app thing, but that’s really the most unintuitive things I’ve ever noticed in Windows. Even after several years of using a Mac I was still Internet searching ways to do simple things and wondering why the hell they had to make them so weird to do.

I’ve never encountered a situation. Tell me some and I’ll tackle them one-by-one.

And I don’t mean I want to write a program myself every time I want to do something (or I’d use Linux amirite?), but I prefer having the ability to have more granular control over things more easily.

Same as above.

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yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.

Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.

Not factual.

Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.

And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!

Prove it.

##### *NO.*****

Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.

The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.

No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.

Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.

Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.

The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.

Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.

They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.

yhwx said:

Neglify said:

Yep.

The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.

Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.

I wasn’t even talking about aesthetics (barring the laptop comment. I mean, why shouldn’t you have a laptop you like the look of?). I was partly talking about UX, and also the way Windows feels. Windows feels clunky, and as I have said before, actively working against you.

I will agree that Apple sometimes tend to go too much towards the aesthetic side of things, but that tends to happen more in their hardware than their software. And, Apple is much better than Microsoft in this regard.

I dunno what version of Windows you last used (maybe ME?), but maybe its your unfamiliarity with the OS that makes it feel that way because if anything it’s getting more hand-holdy and annoyingly automatic like OSX is.

I last used Windows 10, for about six months. I hated every moment of it.

And I never understood the complaint that OS X is “hand-holdy.” If anything, Microsoft is more like that with their Tips app. And why wouldn’t you want things to be automatic? I mean, I love writing shell scripts as much as the next person, but I like automation.

Also, if anything, I enjoy having file type extensions that I can edit easily to make .bats, or backups, or configs, or scripts, or whatever else I may need.

Macs have been doing that for years, even before the integration of Unix into the OS.

I have no idea what the Tips app is, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since launch.

I just remember in some version of Windows Microsoft tried to walk you through the non-intuitive Metro UI. Which should not have been necessary, since Microsoft should have been able to make the UI usable enough to not need those instructions.

I don’t want things to be automatic because I like to control things myself. I’d much rather opt in than opt out.

I feel that Macs have pretty much the same automation level as Windows. I mean, I never got why people like the feeling of a manual machine that you have to control yourself. Just seems pointless and a waste of time.

I dunno how everything being about three or four clicks away from the desktop isn’t intuitive. I’m annoyed with the splitting of Control Panel into the Control Panel and the mostly-redundant-yet-less-functional Settings app thing, but that’s really the most unintuitive things I’ve ever noticed in Windows. Even after several years of using a Mac I was still Internet searching ways to do simple things and wondering why the hell they had to make them so weird to do.

I’ve never encountered a situation. Tell me some and I’ll tackle them one-by-one.

And I don’t mean I want to write a program myself every time I want to do something (or I’d use Linux amirite?), but I prefer having the ability to have more granular control over things more easily.

Same as above.

I haven’t used a Mac in almost a year now and can’t remember any of the specifics, I just remember it happening.

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yhwx said:

Also, human drivers kill themselves all the time. Almost 40,000 (or maybe 4,000 — not sure) people die in car accidents every year.

And there are also idiots who try water-cooling their computers by sticking a hose in a slot in the tower and letting it fill up.

But that’s something that’s mostly intentional. You can be driving safely and some other idiot can kill you.

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Neglify said:

Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.

Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.

Not factual.

Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.

And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!

Prove it.

##### *NO.*****

Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.

The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.

No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.

Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.

Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.

The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.

Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.

They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.

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Yep.

The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.

Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.

I wasn’t even talking about aesthetics (barring the laptop comment. I mean, why shouldn’t you have a laptop you like the look of?). I was partly talking about UX, and also the way Windows feels. Windows feels clunky, and as I have said before, actively working against you.

I will agree that Apple sometimes tend to go too much towards the aesthetic side of things, but that tends to happen more in their hardware than their software. And, Apple is much better than Microsoft in this regard.

I dunno what version of Windows you last used (maybe ME?), but maybe its your unfamiliarity with the OS that makes it feel that way because if anything it’s getting more hand-holdy and annoyingly automatic like OSX is.

I last used Windows 10, for about six months. I hated every moment of it.

And I never understood the complaint that OS X is “hand-holdy.” If anything, Microsoft is more like that with their Tips app. And why wouldn’t you want things to be automatic? I mean, I love writing shell scripts as much as the next person, but I like automation.

Also, if anything, I enjoy having file type extensions that I can edit easily to make .bats, or backups, or configs, or scripts, or whatever else I may need.

Macs have been doing that for years, even before the integration of Unix into the OS.

I have no idea what the Tips app is, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since launch.

I just remember in some version of Windows Microsoft tried to walk you through the non-intuitive Metro UI. Which should not have been necessary, since Microsoft should have been able to make the UI usable enough to not need those instructions.

I don’t want things to be automatic because I like to control things myself. I’d much rather opt in than opt out.

I feel that Macs have pretty much the same automation level as Windows. I mean, I never got why people like the feeling of a manual machine that you have to control yourself. Just seems pointless and a waste of time.

I dunno how everything being about three or four clicks away from the desktop isn’t intuitive. I’m annoyed with the splitting of Control Panel into the Control Panel and the mostly-redundant-yet-less-functional Settings app thing, but that’s really the most unintuitive things I’ve ever noticed in Windows. Even after several years of using a Mac I was still Internet searching ways to do simple things and wondering why the hell they had to make them so weird to do.

I’ve never encountered a situation. Tell me some and I’ll tackle them one-by-one.

And I don’t mean I want to write a program myself every time I want to do something (or I’d use Linux amirite?), but I prefer having the ability to have more granular control over things more easily.

Same as above.

I haven’t used a Mac in almost a year now and can’t remember any of the specifics, I just remember it happening.

Well then I can’t help you in giving reasonable justifications.

Though, I can understand the forgetful-ness. I can’t give very specific complaints about Windows. (I may be able to — but it just might take an inordinate amount of time!)

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yhwx said:

Also, human drivers kill themselves all the time. Almost 40,000 (or maybe 4,000 — not sure) people die in car accidents every year.

And there are also idiots who try water-cooling their computers by sticking a hose in a slot in the tower and letting it fill up.

Wait, how do you do it?

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Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Also, human drivers kill themselves all the time. Almost 40,000 (or maybe 4,000 — not sure) people die in car accidents every year.

And there are also idiots who try water-cooling their computers by sticking a hose in a slot in the tower and letting it fill up.

Wait, how do you do it?

You only let it fill halfway so the steam created by the heated water doesn’t change the pressure in the case and release the magic blue smoke.

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This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

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yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”? (that’s maintenance, by the way)

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

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yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.

You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.

It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.

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Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

Do you understand how water-cooling works? It doesn’t matter if you’re using a Mac or a PC, if you don’t do it properly, you’ll probably get all your components wet and your computer will be wasted.

EDIT: I assumed you meant the water-cooling should just work. But yeah, what he said. Water cooling just works better.

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.

You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.

It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.

Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.

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Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

Do you understand how water-cooling works? It doesn’t matter if you’re using a Mac or a PC, if you don’t do it properly, you’ll probably get all your components wet and your computer will be wasted.

People don’t water-cool their Macs.

I’ve never had the urge to overclock or water-cool or whatever in the recent past. No urge.

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yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.

You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.

It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.

Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.

You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.

Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.

JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling. The parts Apple uses in Macs are largely the same parts people use in their PCs.

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Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.

You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.

It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.

Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.

You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.

Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.

JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling.

I’ve never found overclocking and the such worth the effort for an increase in x that I probably wouldn’t notice and might cause extra stress/problems.

That is all.

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yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.

You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.

It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.

Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.

You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.

Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.

JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling.

I’ve never found overclocking and the such worth the effort for an increase in x that I probably wouldn’t notice and might cause extra stress/problems.

That is all.

Eh, it’s pretty safe these days and you can squeeze out enough performance to make it pretty worthwhile.

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Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.

You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.

It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.

Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.

You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.

Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.

JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling.

I’ve never found overclocking and the such worth the effort for an increase in x that I probably wouldn’t notice and might cause extra stress/problems.

That is all.

Eh, it’s pretty safe these days and you can squeeze out enough performance to make it pretty worthwhile.

Not worth the effort for me. It’s probably even more hoops for a Mac, so I’d rather not.

Now this is all.

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yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Tyrphanax said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.

Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?

Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.

(that’s maintenance, by the way)

Totally forgot. Thank you.

I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.

You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.

It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.

Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.

You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.

Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.

JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling.

I’ve never found overclocking and the such worth the effort for an increase in x that I probably wouldn’t notice and might cause extra stress/problems.

That is all.

Eh, it’s pretty safe these days and you can squeeze out enough performance to make it pretty worthwhile.

Not worth the effort for me. It’s probably even more hoops for a Mac, so I’d rather not.

Now this is all.

Pretty sure you can’t OC a Mac.

You might squeeze more performance out of it than buying a new one then. *winky joke face*

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