ZkinandBonez said:

Also, as I pointed out on another thread about half a year ago, if the DS really made scientific sense (e.g. if it had a gravitational pull), then those stormtroopers would not have been standing where they are in your screenshot, but rather like this;

O hai, new personal canon!

Well I gotta say that the new ROGUE ONE trailer sure has some EPIC-looking shots in it - I wasn’t expecting this movie to look so good!

I love that the ‘marketplace’ outpost is located upon a huge rock plateau (as I hadn’t expected that from previous footage), and the pan up to the Stardestroyer overhead is a terrific piece of imagery. And the brief moment of the stardestroyer looming directly towards us out of the shadows of the Death Star dish was excellent too…as was the Death Star over the planet and the distant ‘eclipse’ it caused. And the shot of the TIE fighter rising up in front of ‘Jyn’ was really neat too - I wasn’t too impressed with the new ‘TIE Striker’ design, so it was great to see the good 'ol standard TIE’s being featured so prominently in this.

I wasn’t initially too keen on the slight changes to the ‘walkers’ compared to the original AT-ATs either, and would have preferred that they had either been exactly the same design, or a more radically different type of ‘walker’ design altogether. But that’s being overly picky I guess, and it seems that they are meant to be a larger cargo carrying type to the ones we originally saw - I could have done without the ‘beige’-coloured side panels, but no biggie. Still, the footage involving them looks pretty effective overall.

Visually, this movie is already shaping up to look a real treat…and this trailer made me go back and re-check the previously released ‘Behind-The-Scenes Celebration Reel’ clip with a fresh eye again - it’s first shot showing the lone stormtrooper being filmed looking out into the distance through macrobinoculars should make for a very nice moment, I reckon…and there was plenty of other stuff that I’m confident will look great onscreen after seeing the quality of the shots in this trailer.

I’m just hoping that Mads Mikkelsen isn’t wasted in a minimal role like the great Max von Sydow was in TFA…and while the trailer music has been perfectly pitched so far, it’s not as if John Williams is scoring this particular instalment. I sure hope Alexandre Deplat’s soundtrack can do the visuals justice, and make me not miss Williams too much. It’s bound to be an element which will distinguish these ‘standalone’ entries from the main saga chapters somewhat.

Anyway, it seems that there’s still a single ‘leaked’ version of the unseen ‘Celebration event’ trailer floating about on YouTube…but it’s been somewhat overdubbed with the ‘Ride Of The Valkyries’ music as heard during APOCALYPSE NOW (very apt actually). However, I did a little extra digging around and found this link to the same version which has the actual sound from the trailer. It’s low quality ‘shakey cam’, but it features a few additional shots to the latest one we’ve been given, so check it out, and enlarge it for maximum impact - https://streamable.com/rzww

(to be honest, I wish the new trailer had used the same final shot used in this ‘leaked’ trailer instead, as it’s really neat - and I’m now wondering if this is actually the shot which is going to ‘introduce’ Vader into the movie itself?) - and here’s an inverted comparison to get a better look at this particular reflection on the Death Star’s shiny floor - i.imgur.com/qgB7Ds6.jpg

SilverWook said:

Interesting that the new droid’s chest piece looks like Dengar’s chest armor.

Few pages late, but I just wanted to point out that Dengar’s armour is repainted Snowtrooper armour, so it makes sense.

ZkinandBonez said:

“I fired the Empire, now”

“YOU’RE FIRED!”

Kylo Ren has some thoughts about the new ROGUE ONE trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CehVgQ43pn0

SilverWook said:

It’s a tricky balance between science and fantasy the competition occasionally stumbled on. I love The Black Hole, but even I cringe when they’re outside the Cygnus without so much as an oxygen mask in sight. 😉

Hardly anyone notices Ripley dangling from ladder with an alien queen hanging from her ankle while the whole hanger of the Sulaco decompresses and the door is wide open to freezing space and all the perils of radiation etc. They don’t worry that we can hear the queen, Ripley, Bishop and Newt screaming despite the tagline of the first movie either.

Lets not forget, Lucasfilm also digitally altered that shot of the Russians pointing their guns at Indy and Ray Winstone specifically for the first Crystal Skull trailer.

This is so typical… “It’s going to be a gritty war movie” but we are going to remove a bloody graze from some poor soldiers head because it might scare the kids?

I am quite sure kids fall of their bikes or their skateboards or what not and get injuries akin to that are fairly common.

Who on earth would bother to spend money on softening that graze on the head because it is deemed to be… Actually I don’t know what a graze on the head is considered to be other than a graze on the head.

It’s complete and utter madness. certifiable insanity.

Kids today are made out a combination of tissue paper, Jello, and popsicle sticks, don’tcha know?

I am not entirely sure about the motivation behind this removal of a graze on the head, but some nutter thought it needed to be changed. Perhaps that soldier no longer get’s bashed on the head?

But then the next question becomes ok so you removed the graze on the head because you also removed the storm trooper smacking him over the head to cause the graze.

So eventually these films just get so watered down and loose their edge, that the director originally had when shooting the scenes.

The answer is of course don’t bother to make films like this. Just make episodes of my little pony and everyone will have nothing to say about it. Perhaps they could try to make a war movie where nobody got to fight any enemies and not one shot is fired.

I am looking forward to them they sound great 😃

No but seriously who cares what certificate a film is apart from the studio. Ok that matters in the cinema but for home video nobody gives two hoots.

doubt it…They would just pick another shot.

It’s no wonder the budgets on these movies are so expensive. You think about it if that soldier got bashed on the head. We have a soft rubber gun made to do that for safety. Then the make up artist who put’s the graze there then all the people who are paid to object or ensure continuity.

Graze then has to be removed in post production by digital effects. The material is now worthless that was shot with all the crew present. Would it have not been better to make that decision before creating it?

How much did something like that cost. A lot of money I am sure. It just makes the mind boggle over these decisions that are made and price is not an object really. It’s cost them more to remove it than to just leave it alone. And the movie industry complains about how risky film making is. They are exposing themselves to even more risk by this silly self censorship and may I add making films that are full of fluff.

abnormal interference is really what this is.

Perhaps you are right but I just think studios are self censoring before they even get to the certification process. That’s what I believe is happening today and they are aware of the points that can be racked up that will push a film in to another age bracket.

Perhaps they keep it loose before they decide what can stay and what must go, but it’s so obvious that Studios only want to make big budget pg/13 films.

We used to get big budget 18/x rated films… And I miss them films but I don’t imagine Disney releasing any x rated films any time soon.

Call me old fashioned if you like.

Yesterday I watched a few episodes of Project Greenlight which was sponsored by Miramax and dimension films (formerly part of Disney) and It was an interesting series. Basically they were looking for new talent of screenwriters, Directors. So anyway because the movie that would get made was low budget what sort of film did they decide to make?

A monster horror… which was really gory. But they stated that it was seen as economically viable on a budget of around I think it was 8 million USD. But before the film was 100% finished Dimension films divorced Disney and became the Weinstein Company. The test screenings did not object to the gore that was in the film only that the monster had no origin story but If you watched an earlier episode the origin story of the monster was removed at the request of the studio because of the budget they had set. So they shot themselves in the foot as they were concerned more about making money but essentially tanked the project by cutting the budget and chopping out the most important part of the monster and where it came from. It’s all quite amusing and I think you have to take a hat off to Matt Damon and Ben Affleck for objecting to the studios attitude overall because all they were worried about was money nothing more. But essentially that tanked the film and the project.

But for Disney and Star Wars money is not an object, but it absolutely must be a PG rated movie. What gives…
I think the point is the only people who are objecting to gore and violence are the studios themselves rather than the audience. Nudity is a different ball game but still I think it all depends on what film you are trying to make 😃