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DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Also, why is the Death Star up-side-down in this shot?

There is no upside down in space. It’s all three-dimensional, remember? 😛

Yeah, in the real world there is no upside down in space.

But if you look at Star Wars or especially Star Trek, you will notice that the ships always are like horizontally aligned. It is a normal thing in movies to make “it look good”.

I will say if every spaceship is flying as they like, it would be an optically mess! It is a film thing not a realism thing. In reality there are no spaceships 😉

The upside down deathstar looks to me like a mistake

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Nah it’s definitely on purpose. They’re not gotta tease a trailer for weeks and then mess something up.

But there’s also no way it’s targeting the planet for destruction at that close range. It could honestly be that the superlaser isn’t so super yet and they’re using it more as a big piece of artillery than what it’s meant for.

Ugh I’m so excited for this movie.

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ZkinandBonez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Also, why is the Death Star up-side-down in this shot?

There is no upside down in space. It’s all three-dimensional, remember? 😛

Sure, but I still think it’s weird that they choose to show it from that orientation. Also doesn’t that technically mean that we’re seeing the planet with the north pole facing down (relatively speaking)?
It’s a neat shot anyway, it just struck me as kinda odd.

It’s hard to fire down when your gun is pointing up… probably.

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Bingowings said:

ZkinandBonez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Also, why is the Death Star up-side-down in this shot?

There is no upside down in space. It’s all three-dimensional, remember? 😛

Sure, but I still think it’s weird that they choose to show it from that orientation. Also doesn’t that technically mean that we’re seeing the planet with the north pole facing down (relatively speaking)?
It’s a neat shot anyway, it just struck me as kinda odd.

It’s hard to fire down when your gun is pointing up… probably.

Right… an you can see in the next scene that the planet is on the top of the monitor inside the deat star.
Now it makes more sense

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I just can’t get over this shot:


Wonderful, wonderful!

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It’s really hard to say why the DS has this weird position, but for sure this is something never seen in a SW flick. Edwards really knows how to raise expectations and how to play on different scales : remember his Godzilla, where gigantism and human perspective are mixed into the same shot ? This is something the man is very good at. I also love the DS-solar eclipse shot (very nice hommage to the Mustafar eclipse Anakin/Vader stares at in ROTS). There is a “Edwards” movie feel (i.e. “Godzilla” feel) as well as a “SW movie” feel, something that the previous trailer was missing. I’m still puzzled about a few things but now I’ll stick to the fact that I might really like this stand-alone movie.

[by the way did I mention that I don’t like TFA ? I’m not sure I did]

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Tobar said:

I just can’t get over this shot:


Wonderful, wonderful!

Yeah, that’s the one that sold it for me. God, look at that thing. It looks so… right.

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The Dark Empire said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Also, why is the Death Star up-side-down in this shot?

There is no upside down in space. It’s all three-dimensional, remember? 😛

Yeah, in the real world there is no upside down in space.

But if you look at Star Wars or especially Star Trek, you will notice that the ships always are like horizontally aligned. It is a normal thing in movies to make “it look good”.

I will say if every spaceship is flying as they like, it would be an optically mess! It is a film thing not a realism thing. In reality there are no spaceships 😉

The upside down deathstar looks to me like a mistake

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Nah it’s definitely on purpose. They’re not gotta tease a trailer for weeks and then mess something up.

But there’s also no way it’s targeting the planet for destruction at that close range. It could honestly be that the superlaser isn’t so super yet and they’re using it more as a big piece of artillery than what it’s meant for.

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I feel like a lot of the film is going to take place on Jedha. I aslo think it’s interesting that the DS apparently goes to Jedha (hence the eclipse). There’s a shot in the trailer of Jyn and Cassian flying away from huge explosion so there might be a scene where the DS actually attacks Jedha. Of course it’s not referred to as “fully operational” until the events of ANH, so I guess this scene might show us what the unfinished DS superlaser is capable of. This also implies that the shot of the DS that was posted earlier, which I said looked up-side-down, is probably it aiming down on Jedha. The shots of Krennic with the view of Jedha I’m assuming is him ordering it to attack.

Yes, it’s definitely not up-side-down, but pointing down, ready to attack Jedha, despite not being “fully operational” yet.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

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I was worried this new trailer would disappoint. i was wrong, so very wrong! absolutely psyched to see this in December!

Change “December” to “whenever the hell I’ll be able to watch it”, and this sums up my thoughts as well.

why not December?

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Some interesting info about Saw Gerrera from an EW intervew with Whitaker;
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About his armor seen in the trailers;

“This is his armored suit for flight, but also for maintenance,” Whitaker told Entertainment Weekly. “He’s been through so many conflicts and many wars, so it’s also about [repairing] some of the many injuries he’s had. He wears it all the time.”

Whitaker on Saw’s relationship to Jyn;

“He’s really close to her, and they have a very powerful relationship,” Whitaker says. “He’s talking about how you maybe make compromises that may harm people, or may harm the situation, or people may question it, but if you’re doing it for the good, there’s a positive thing about that. But what does it make you become? And how do you change as a person?”

(It seem like they know each other from before the events of he film.)

The actor briefly touched on the interesting topic about his change in appearance in the trailers:

Some theorized that this was a alteration brought about during reshoots for the movie, but Whitaker says it’s a switch that happens within the story. Given the extra gray in his beard, maybe we’re seeing Saw at two different stages of his life.

“We made some decisions about how the character was progressing. They had a lot of opportunity to make tweaks and different things,” he says. “You’ll see both.”

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Looks like I might have been spot on about the change being different ages. Interesting!

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This guy is most likely just a background character, but I none-the-less noticed that he has no head.
I first thought it was just a combination of the camera angle and his stance, but the white thing on his shoulders, which I at first thought was a collar of some kind, actually rotates (kind of like R2’s dome-head) and it has antennaes sticking out of it. So I guess this guy’s a cyborg?
We’ve obviously had cyborgs in the movies with Vader, as well as Lobot, and perhaps some pther background characters that I can’t remember right now, but I’ve yet to see someone either in the movies or the EU (both of them) that was missing a head.


I also love the attention to detail in this shot, as well as the fact that a lot of it looks practical. You can even see the TIE-pilot crash through the window."

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Maybe he has a head, just no neck. A hunchback kinda fellow.

I just love seeing that stormtrooper there with the old-school T-21. I’m glad we’re seeing it again because all those cool guns disappeared once we got to Empire. Ugh. It’s almost too Star Warsy.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Also, why is the Death Star up-side-down in this shot?

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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ZkinandBonez said:

This guy is most likely just a background character, but I none-the-less noticed that he has no head.
I first thought it was just a combination of the camera angle and his stance, but the white thing on his shoulders, which I at first thought was a collar of some kind, actually rotates (kind of like R2’s dome-head) and it has antennaes sticking out of it. So I guess this guy’s a cyborg?
We’ve obviously had cyborgs in the movies with Vader, as well as Lobot, and perhaps some pther background characters that I can’t remember right now, but I’ve yet to see someone either in the movies or the EU (both of them) that was missing a head.

Or it’s just the camera angle and his stance. I was friends with a cyborg for a while and he stood with his head down all the time.

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TV’s Frink said:

ZkinandBonez said:

This guy is most likely just a background character, but I none-the-less noticed that he has no head.
I first thought it was just a combination of the camera angle and his stance, but the white thing on his shoulders, which I at first thought was a collar of some kind, actually rotates (kind of like R2’s dome-head) and it has antennaes sticking out of it. So I guess this guy’s a cyborg?
We’ve obviously had cyborgs in the movies with Vader, as well as Lobot, and perhaps some pther background characters that I can’t remember right now, but I’ve yet to see someone either in the movies or the EU (both of them) that was missing a head.

Or it’s just the camera angle and his stance. I was friends with a cyborg for a while and he stood with his head down all the time.

nothing against your friend (i think? is my response even insulting or referring to your friend in any way? better to be safe and stay on the good side of cyborgs), but it certainly seems like this guy does not have a normal human head/neck. given the ‘police’ lights on his back, it would seem to make sense that he is an unthinking enforcer of some sort.

also, removing heads digitally was harder in the OT times.

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I think it’s a pretty large stretch to say he has no head.

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Maybe that flat bit with the little antennas is the top of a helmet?

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TV’s Frink said:

ZkinandBonez said:

This guy is most likely just a background character, but I none-the-less noticed that he has no head.
I first thought it was just a combination of the camera angle and his stance, but the white thing on his shoulders, which I at first thought was a collar of some kind, actually rotates (kind of like R2’s dome-head) and it has antennaes sticking out of it. So I guess this guy’s a cyborg?
We’ve obviously had cyborgs in the movies with Vader, as well as Lobot, and perhaps some pther background characters that I can’t remember right now, but I’ve yet to see someone either in the movies or the EU (both of them) that was missing a head.

Or it’s just the camera angle and his stance. I was friends with a cyborg for a while and he stood with his head down all the time.

As a person who spends 80% of his time in some form of armored suit, he should have stood with his head held high. Being a cyborg is nothing to be ashamed of.

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I’m pretty sure it’s the weight of the helmet that pushed his head down. Gravity is no one’s friend, least of all our cyborg friends.

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TV’s Frink said:

I’m pretty sure it’s the weight of the helmet that pushed his head down. Gravity is no one’s friend, least of all our cyborg friends.

That poor half guy.

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I found pre-viz of that guy without a head.

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TV’s Frink said:

I found pre-viz of that guy without a head.

allol

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Just going by the new trailer, the more adult tone of the film, and what appears to be an outstanding character & performance by Felicity Jones, this is most likely the Star Wars film I’ve always wanted. I’d be very surprised if it doesn’t become my favorite instantly.

It has a Timothy Zahn vibe to it, of who I am a huge fan. This looks very much like something he would write. Jyn comes across as a less angry Mara. Mara when we first meet her, not Mara from years later. I dig a strong female lead like that. Felicity Jones looks perfect for this.

Fingers crossed that Vader is little more than a cameo character. I’ve never been a fan or found him more than two-dimensional at best. No 3PO and no R2 is already a plus. Limited Vader and limited Force would really be nice.

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