The Crusades are a go-to thing to complain about.
The Person in Question
The Crusades are a go-to thing to complain about.
For good reason.
The Crusades are a go-to thing to complain about.
For good reason.
I should’ve said that they’re a go-to thing to lie about.
The Person in Question
And how interesting that you fixate on the beginning of the Crusades but not the entirety of the skirmish. Also when people mention the Crusades people usually think about the atrocities carried out during the holy wars; not how they started.
I don’t support the crusades. I just think that it’s irrelevant to complain about things that happened in a less civilized time approximately 1000 years ago as though they are the same as what’s going on now.
The Person in Question
Different time period, same mindset.
It’s a very similar mindset, but not one that we see coming from mainstream Catholicism today.
The Person in Question
True that. I would prefer intolerance over violence any day.
EXACTLY! I see a lot of people referring to Westboro Baptist Church (who we all hate) as though they’re somehow the Christian equivalent of al Qaeda. As soon as they take over an entire state and blow up a bus full of hostages, then feel free to do so, but otherwise, they aren’t the same. One is objectively less harmful than the other.
The Person in Question
One is objectively less harmful than the other.
Quick, someone make a Ranking The Terrorists thread.
Westboro Baptist aren’t terrorists.
The Person in Question
Westboro Baptist aren’t terrorists.
Well obviously they’d have a low ranking.
EXACTLY! I see a lot of people referring to Westboro Baptist Church (who we all hate) as though they’re somehow the Christian equivalent of al Qaeda. As soon as they take over an entire state and blow up a bus full of hostages, then feel free to do so, but otherwise, they aren’t the same. One is objectively less harmful than the other.
Saying you want certain groups of people to die and actually making them dead are two separate things. Even saying that they’re the closest thing to undermines the lives of all those who have died at the hands of Islamic Terrorists.
Westboro Baptist aren’t terrorists.
Well obviously they’d have a low ranking.
they shouldn’t have any ranking. They haven’t killed anyone. As far as I know, they haven’t committed any acts of violence. What they do is commit acts of extreme offence.
Westboro Baptist aren’t terrorists.
Well obviously they’d have a low ranking.
they shouldn’t have any ranking. They haven’t killed anyone. As far as I know, they haven’t committed any acts of violence. What they do is commit acts of extreme offence.
I think you might have missed the joke.
Westboro Baptist aren’t terrorists.
Well obviously they’d have a low ranking.
they shouldn’t have any ranking. They haven’t killed anyone. As far as I know, they haven’t committed any acts of violence. What they do is commit acts of extreme offence.
I think you might have missed the joke.
Argh, now there’s no reason to post it in the correct thread.
[Jeebus] said: (post/id/963229)
The difference is that “Love the sinner, hate the sin” is usually referring to homosexuality. In that case, the ‘sin’ is a part of who they are, and something they can’t change. Religion is a belief, that can indeed be changed.
How is that anti-religion or bigoted at all?
Because he’s religious and the only way in his mind that he can see people hating religion is being afflicted with the symptoms of being a zealot or having dogmatic hatred. So I guess if you hate the feminazi rhetoric that means you’re bigoted because reasons.
Very intelligent post. Since you do not actually argue my points with any skill, I’ll just continue believing I was right about you.
There’s nothing to really argue. You’re throwing out baseless claims because you’re overly sensitive about your religion.
Nothing to argue? More likely you’re too lazy or stupid to formulate a coherent argument.
And not all religions, even within Christianity, are as anti-gay as you portray. But then, that would avoid stereotyping religion.
There were some branches of Hinduism that didn’t mind it. Greek paganism and the British end of Quakerism but generally speaking almost all religions are down on homosexuality, even the Buddhists.
The Crusades are a go-to thing to complain about.
For good reason.
Indeed, but they’re unfortunately a go-to example of “look how bad the Church is/used to be”, when really the atrocities committed during them were not approved of by the Church, and the Church was quite arguably justified in calling for them.
There was nothing justified about the Crusades. It was just that the Roman church wanted the money that came from the pilgrim business.
There was nothing justified about the Crusades. It was just that the Roman church wanted the money that came from the pilgrim business.
That’s an overly simplistic view of history.
The Person in Question
There was nothing justified about the Crusades. It was just that the Roman church wanted the money that came from the pilgrim business.
Actually they were defending their territory which was being invaded at the time. Yes they were violent but they were no terrorist group or anything.
Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329
There were what we would today call war crimes committed during the Crusades, but they weren’t an unprovoked attack. It wasn’t an attempt to gain money.
The Person in Question
Is no one going to bring up how insane it is that religion allows people to feel entitled to any opinion at all about other people’s sexuality?
Actually it doesn’t do that. Religion tells people what to think about other people’s sexuality.
Do you tell anyone what to think about their sexuality? I bet you do.
Telling someone to “come to terms” with being gay is telling someone what to think about their sexuality.
The Person in Question
Christianity (or at least Christianity based solely on the Bible) is inherently “anti-gay” in the sense that it claims homosexual relations are ungodly. I don’t see how any churches can honestly get around the fact that it’s made clear in both New and Old Testaments.
If you interpret it as the literal word of God as it fell flawlessly from his lips to parchment, then it is. But many faiths actually hold more liberal interpretations. I’m sure you don’t believe women shouldn’t speak at all in church.