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Star Wars Episode I: Cloak Of Deception (Released) — Page 13

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Hal, I’ve watched all three of your edits and I’m a huge fan. I have especially been enjoying your TFA thread and am looking forward to seeing what comes of it.

Quick question: I downloaded your PT off of fanedit.info last summer. Would those have been v4 of each film, or were they still v3 back then? If there is a newer version that is currently available, I’d love to get a hold of them if someone wouldn’t mind PMing them to me (fanedit.info still seems to be “coming soon”).

Thanks in advance!

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Can I get the links as well. I’ve been meaning to check out your edit for a while, but hadn’t been able to find it and it seems I always get to fanedit.info at the wrong times.

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I can’t say enough good things about these edits. Are you Marcia Lucas? They have literally saved the Prequels for me. My only comments would be to remove the trivial, flightly music from several of the action scenes in Ep II and maybe shorten the Coruscant speeder chase scene which felt overlong. I’m not sure what can be done with the Geonosis Arena/Jedi/Clones material, it may just not be possible to save that, they seemed fine in 2002, but they are unwatchable in 2016 sadly.

However, they trilogy really really does a great job with Anakin, his wishiwashi unlikableness is gone and replaced with a firm character with a genuine arc. Anakin’s turn to the darkside was tangible and real. Even the romance was handled with care, believable and touching. Great great job. In addition, I think it ties into the Clone Wars material very well.

It makes me want to go pick up a bluray burner!

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Could I also please get the links? This seems awesome and I’d like to show my 5-year-old star wars newbie son it.

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Is there any update on the audio bug you mentioned in the TFA thread? No pressure as I never actually noticed it but I’m curious as to how you’d fix something like that.

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Problem has been diagnosed: all my sequences and nested sequences do not have the audio panned left or right like they need to, so anything in the left or right channels is heard in both. The solution is to pan everything on the left and right tracks left or right.
The problem now is that this needs to be done not just to the top level sequence, but to every clip inside every nested sequence. FCP7 appears to only be able to change this one sequence at a time, and so I need to systematically go through and do these things in a labyrinth of nested sequences without missing anything or losing track of where I am. Not all sequences are even listed in the list, so I truly would need to go from left to right in the timeline, going deeper and deeper each time there’s a nested sequence, and work my way back up. It would take quite a long time, so I am still searching for a quicker solution. It makes no difference how I export anything, because fixing the issue at the top level doesn’t fix it at the deeper levels and so the problem comes from the bottom up.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Hal 9000 said:

Problem has been diagnosed: all my sequences and nested sequences do not have the audio panned left or right like they need to, so anything in the left or right channels is heard in both. The solution is to pan everything on the left and right tracks left or right.
The problem now is that this needs to be done not just to the top level sequence, but to every clip inside every nested sequence. FCP7 appears to only be able to change this one sequence at a time, and so I need to systematically go through and do these things in a labyrinth of nested sequences without missing anything or losing track of where I am. Not all sequences are even listed in the list, so I truly would need to go from left to right in the timeline, going deeper and deeper each time there’s a nested sequence, and work my way back up. It would take quite a long time, so I am still searching for a quicker solution. It makes no difference how I export anything, because fixing the issue at the top level doesn’t fix it at the deeper levels and so the problem comes from the bottom up.

Sorry to hear about this Hal 😦 If it makes you feel any better, Iv watched your amazing edits multiple times by myself and with company and no one thought there was any problems with the audio.

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Yes, sorry to hear about this issue ! I’ve also never spotted it since I’ve watched them through my NAS system which can’t proceed 5.1 that way but only 3.1 with my current amplifier. Also sorry that I can’t provide any help, being not very competent with editing softwares… Good luck and take your time !

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Yeah, I’ll make sure there’s nothing else to tweak. Nothing that will affect sync whatsoever; that is 110% locked forever. But I plan to, since this happened anyway, do a few tiny things like retime the custom end credits so the rest doesn’t need to be sped up, and do a new crawl for Ep1 with the same title font as the other two. And the subtitles will be muxed in rather than a separate download.
Unrealistic wish: I’d love to somehow take the BR of AOTC and apply the color information of Schorman’s HDTV capture project. Does anyone know a ~simple, ~straightforward way to accomplish this? The BR looks better aside from the very bad coloring. It’s not just the greenish shift, but there’s a lot more purple. You can see this as Dooku throws the pillar at Obi-Wan and Anakin and as Anakin rides his speeder bike across the sunset.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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I know some people have had success with avisynth filters like this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96308

But I couldn’t begin to tell you how to do it. If you do end up doing this I’d be very interested in an unedited version of the Blu-Ray with the color correction applied.

I’d also encourage you to use the Blu-Ray of ROTS because I think it looks higher quality as well.

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Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, I’ll make sure there’s nothing else to tweak. Nothing that will affect sync whatsoever; that is 110% locked forever. But I plan to, since this happened anyway, do a few tiny things like retime the custom end credits so the rest doesn’t need to be sped up, and do a new crawl for Ep1 with the same title font as the other two. And the subtitles will be muxed in rather than a separate download.

If you want to correct 2 more little issues, in II-TAS there is a noticeable cut when Anakin says "The way I remember you" and in III-LOE there is the sound glitch when Anakin threatens Palpatine in his office (I can try to help you with that, using audacity it can be possible). However I understand this could affect the sync, so if it does don’t bother it’s really nothing.

Good idea the mux the subs as well. I’ll send you an updated file for I-COD in which I have finally decided to use the same french translation used for the book (someone told me that UN VENT DE TRAHISON sounds way better than UN VOILE DE DISSIMULATION, and I agree).

As for your question regarding the video source I can’t honestly help you, but if it doesn’t add work you could do as Harmy and al. do with the OT and release two versions (Schorman’s and bluray’s).

edit: I remember now that the bluray of AOTS has alltered the montage in two sections (Coruscant chase and Dooku’s escape): http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-four.html?post_id=79063&action=report

edit 2: I took the liberty to partially quote your two posts about your exporting issue on a french forum where I know one or two people (professional editors) who might provide a tip or two. Not sure to get a quick answer but if it can help… I’ll let you know if I get something.

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Do you guys know the best software for me to mash up Hal’s Ep. 3 with L8wtrs and Q2’s. I’d like to exchange a few parts of Hals with these other 2 edits. I have Power Director 12 and Sony Vegas Pro 13.

I’d just like to do seamless transitions between the edits, (I know how to color match) and then export a nice and tidy 5.1 audio 720p file.

I would recut the editor commentaries for a new commentary track that I could mux in.

Octorox any help? Or Hal?

It’s mainly just matching audio sources for a suitable surround sound export format.

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Pretty much anything that’ll let you cross fade audio should work. I’m on the Mac side but there should be plenty of choice on that front, I should think.
MalaStrana, thanks! If anyone there has any ideas for a plug-n-play color correction based on the source, that’d be cool. What I plan to do, when I get there, is try getting the BR to at least get closer to the HDTV version and post some screencaps. It won’t be perfect, just closer hopefully.
The line, “You’re exactly the way I remember you,” was deliberately cut short, and so there’s nothing there to change.
Can you post a time code for the Ep3 audio glitch? I remember you pointing it out before and I dismissed it since it was minuscule and I thought I was finished at that point!

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darthrush said:

Do you guys know the best software for me to mash up Hal’s Ep. 3 with L8wtrs and Q2’s. I’d like to exchange a few parts of Hals with these other 2 edits. I have Power Director 12 and Sony Vegas Pro 13.

I’d just like to do seamless transitions between the edits, (I know how to color match) and then export a nice and tidy 5.1 audio 720p file.

I would recut the editor commentaries for a new commentary track that I could mux in.

Octorox any help? Or Hal?

It’s mainly just matching audio sources for a suitable surround sound export format.

I’ve been working on a similar project with Premiere (though most NLE’s should have the same capabilities). You should be able to match up the audio with very minimal work (some crossfading is occasionally necessary). If the audio is properly channeled out (and at the same level) they should cut together very well. If not, there might be an issue with the source audio (this is how I noticed Hal’s audio was messed up in the first place).

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Hal 9000 said:
Can you post a time code for the Ep3 audio glitch? I remember you pointing it out before and I dismissed it since it was minuscule and I thought I was finished at that point!

Found exactly where it is: 0:52’45’’ (“i’m going to turn you over the Jedi Council”).

You should probably post your issue on tweeter, among your 250+ followers there might be someone who can provide an idea (or who can at least let you know if there is another way to correct the issue).

edit: since we’re talking about III-LOE, in case I also remember someone pointed out a very small video issue about the opening crawl. It can only be noticed with a certain kind of screen (like a computer screen). If you happen to use another video source it might correct it.