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Frank your Majesty said:

Retared as a slur is not very offensive because it would be particularly insulting to the recipient to be called mentally handicapped, it’s easy to shrug that off, it is offensive because it devalues mentally handicapped people. But I don’t expect you to understand this.

I am sorry but you sure cannot expect me to understand such nonsense. I don’t find mentally handicapped people of any less value, therefore to me, an instance of calling anyone mentally challenged (even if they are not) cannot devalue anyone.

If I call you an “astronaut” and you are not, does that devalue you or astronauts? No, because I don’t find your nor astronauts of any less value. It would only be devaluing to someone who thinks that specific group of people has less value (and your post indicated that you might be someone like that).

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Easy solution: don’t use “retarded” as an insult.

Done and done.

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FrankT said:

Ryan-SWI said:
I’m not getting into it again, but I apologize for breaking the guidelines in that instance, though other members getting away with it on a constant basis just because they’re well-known on the forums does not seem fair to me in the slightest.

Once again I’m sorry and it won’t happen again, but it being acceptable for a select few individuals to behave a certain way but nobody else doesn’t seem right.

You’re telling me! I used to go to a forum that had that exact mindset! I hated it! And now it’s happening here. Take a look around - what have you become!? I thought I could trust every one of you here. Looking at what’s happened, it’s obvious I’ve made the wrong choice. NOW ALL OF YOU, SCREW!

Then please, feel free to leave. That’s exactly what i’m doing

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adywan said:

Oh , come off it. you must be either stupid or a pre-teen if you thought that calling people “retarded” wasn’t offensive.

Personally I don’t find it offensive when random people around here call me something like that. Something as petty as that could never have any chance at offending someone intelligent like me. But I understand, not everyone is like me.

What is petty to someone like you isn’t to people who have young family members who have to live with morons calling them “retard” and thinking its acceptable to do so. So get off your fucking high horse you dick. You aren’t sounding very intelligent

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Frank your Majesty said:

it is offensive because it devalues mentally handicapped people.

Does it, though?
My best friend of about 10 years has asperges as well as a couple of other issues and regularly tells other people not to worry about offending him and pokes fun at himself too.
Obviously this isn’t the case for everyone in his position but he personally feels that having people tred on egg shells around him only makes him feel more “abnormal” (I don’t really want to use that word in regards to his mental illness, but it’s the way he phrased it).
Things like that can be and are a coping mechanism for some people. It might not make sense to you, but that’s just how it is sometimes.

My point is different people are going to find different things offensive.
One of the reasons I initially used the word freely is because everyone I’ve encountered in my personal life has not minded, or openly encouraged it, so I don’t think twice.

So do you call your friend a retard to his face then? That statement is no different than someone saying “i have black friends so i can call people n***ers”. Just because one person isn’t offended by it, that doesn’t make it acceptable because others might. maybe people should think first.

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maybe people should think first.

Yeah I could say the same.

I have to ask, if you’re so intent on leaving… Why don’t you?
I’m fairly certain I’ve seen you post the same thing last year.

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Well Ive always been a sensitive person so whenever I post here I try to sound subjective and reasonable. If not that I may post something ammusing in response to someone elses comment, usually TV’s Frink or someone. But thats more knock on wood than trying to offend people. I personally dont agree with using vulgar language in public threads. PM is fine but people this site is for a purpose and derailing it with negativity isnt where it should go. Everyones entitled to their opinions but should respect others as well. I know Im sounding like some strong voice of reason but its just how I feel.

A lot of the time especially in this case I try to ignore much of the conversation since the word play is too far in and Im not about to throw myself in the mix (although with this post perhaps I am). Not to mention negativity can lead to the topic being ignored completely in the future which isnt fair. Each discussion here is started in hopes that people will provide their honest and respectful opinions and just build a decent discussion from there. Once it gets to this stage now its like ‘well that went downhill fast didn’t it??’.

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Ryan-SWI said:

maybe people should think first.

Yeah I could say the same.

I have to ask, if you’re so intent on leaving… Why don’t you?
I’m fairly certain I’ve seen you post the same thing last year.

Not that this is a popularity contest, but there are tons of people here who hope adywan doesn’t leave. I am one of them (more for posts like he’s making now than for his editing, not that I don’t enjoy that as well). I’m guessing there aren’t many people here who hope you don’t leave.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Well Ive always been a sensitive person so whenever I post here I try to sound subjective and reasonable. If not that I may post something ammusing in response to someone elses comment, usually TV’s Frink or someone. But thats more knock on wood than trying to offend people. I personally dont agree with using vulgar language in public threads. PM is fine but people this site is for a purpose and derailing it with negativity isnt where it should go. Everyones entitled to their opinions but should respect others as well. I know Im sounding like some strong voice of reason but its just how I feel.

A lot of the time especially in this case I try to ignore much of the conversation since the word play is too far in and Im not about to throw myself in the mix (although with this post perhaps I am). Not to mention negativity can lead to the topic being ignored completely in the future which isnt fair. Each discussion here is started in hopes that people will provide their honest and respecful opinions and just build a decent discussion from there. Once it gets to this stage now its like ‘well that went donwhill fast didn’t it??’.

I will apologize for my language but I cannot abide when people do things like this. All it would have taken was a simple apology when it first happened and we could have all moved on. Digging your heels in and insisting you did nothing wrong is much worse than the original offense.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Well Ive always been a sensitive person so whenever I post here I try to sound subjective and reasonable. If not that I may post something ammusing in response to someone elses comment, usually TV’s Frink or someone. But thats more knock on wood than trying to offend people. I personally dont agree with using vulgar language in public threads. PM is fine but people this site is for a purpose and derailing it with negativity isnt where it should go. Everyones entitled to their opinions but should respect others as well. I know Im sounding like some strong voice of reason but its just how I feel.

A lot of the time especially in this case I try to ignore much of the conversation since the word play is too far in and Im not about to throw myself in the mix (although with this post perhaps I am). Not to mention negativity can lead to the topic being ignored completely in the future which isnt fair. Each discussion here is started in hopes that people will provide their honest and respecful opinions and just build a decent discussion from there. Once it gets to this stage now its like ‘well that went donwhill fast didn’t it??’.

Well we got back on track of the original topic before this was all brought up again, which is why I’m trying to avoid the discussion now, at least on this post.

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TV’s Frink said:

I’m guessing there aren’t many people here who hope you don’t leave.

And this is why you have a reputation on exterior sites, not just here, for being a harasser.
Stop trying to bait me, if you want to make dig at me do it in off-topic, I’m not responding to you in any other area but there from now on.

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I hope Adywan stays. I prefer the Original Versions but I consider Adywan’s Special Edition more definitive than the REAL Special Edition.

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Swazzy said:

Great. We lost one of the greatest contributors to this website for the last ten years over a completely asinine debate.

Um, no. If it was an asinine debate, adywan wouldn’t be leaving. Someone being completely insensitive and then trying to defend it over and over is not a debate.

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imperialscum said:

Personally I don’t find it offensive when random people around here call me something like that. Something as petty as that could never have any chance at offending someone intelligent like me. But I understand, not everyone is like me.

Get back to doing fake research at your study-abroad college internship program – that I’m sure mommy and daddy are paying for – you conceited child!

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TV’s Frink said:

Swazzy said:

Great. We lost one of the greatest contributors to this website for the last ten years over a completely asinine debate.

Um, no. If it was an asinine debate, adywan wouldn’t be leaving. Someone being completely insensitive and then trying to defend it over and over is not a debate.

I don’t blame him one bit. Also, it’s been a longer buildup, and it isn’t just this “debate”. The reason this one in particular is so obnoxious is because it is just another example of a thread being hijacked and turned into a senseless debate, as well as a platform to discuss fictions about how poorly certain members are treating others.

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I don’t blame him but I hope he will change his mind for a variety of reasons.

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adywan said:

Then please, feel free to leave. That’s exactly what i’m doing

Wait… you’re… leaving? …then I’m leaving with you.

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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TV’s Frink said:

I don’t blame him but I hope he will change his mind for a variety of reasons.

Agreed. Funnily enough, Off Topic is currently the only place of refuge from this nonsense, although that seems to be changing fast.

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