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Jeebus said:
In the dinner scene, I think you should really find a way to cut “I don’t want to you to race it’s awful I die every time you do it,” because that line is Tommy Wiseau levels of bad.

I like to keep the emphasis on “Watto makes you” because in my edit you’ll want to sympathise for Anakin, he’s forced into supporting his mother

I don’t know how I feel about the montage of the clone army. I feel like when you start showing the clones, you shouldn’t cut back to the senate. If it’s necessary to make the timing work, I think you should at least put clapping audio when you cut to those 2 Vurk.

I’ll try clapping sounds and the music is also too loud in that scene. I like to show the Senate approving Palpatine’s decision

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Just watched the preview, and I like a lot of your ideas! One thing I would suggest with the Jedi council scene is to cut away from Qui-Gon when he gives the edited line “Obi-Wan will train him”, just because it’s a bit jarring to hear the line and watch Qui-Gon’s lips move differently. Just pick a random clip of one of the council members reacting to something and use that over the line. Should work quite nicely 😃

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Sheepish said:

Just watched the preview, and I like a lot of your ideas! One thing I would suggest with the Jedi council scene is to cut away from Qui-Gon when he gives the edited line “Obi-Wan will train him”, just because it’s a bit jarring to hear the line and watch Qui-Gon’s lips move differently. Just pick a random clip of one of the council members reacting to something and use that over the line. Should work quite nicely 😃

That would be fine, I’ll just use a shot of Obi-Wan being surprised 😃

Jeebus said:

If you want to keep their reactions, you could try something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgLp0XmtOz8

Yeah that would actually be easier, I’ll try it out. Thanks for the preview!

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Where you have palatine using his new powers to create the army of the Republic, could you instead have it as “use” the army of the Republic. I’m not sure how it would fit in with your ideas for the following films but I figure it implies the army is already around and everyone knows it, but he is authorising its use and not its creation and would make him seem like a politician who is helping in the crisis and not just out to create his own person army which people should maybe question a little deeper.

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I cant wait to see the finished Maul/Grievous combination would it be possible to incorporate Mauls horns or maybe some face paint on the mask sort of like he customized it himself to reflect his old face

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If you’re doing Grievious=Maul, you may want to rotoscope all his lightsabers red. Would connect the characters better as well as just make for a more menacing look.

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YES, why has no one else thought of that in this case Maul is resurrected as a cyborg (not totally unlike in the clone wars except without the robotic legs) so it wouldn’t make sense if he was collecting jedi lightsabers since he’s a sith he just has his own plus he always had a double bladed sabre, so he’s used to wielding more than one blade, to make use of his extra arms he just decided to wield 4 single bladed ones and ditch his old design to better fit his new enhanced skills as a cyborg

“I will call this one BOHIJ”
-Chris O’Neil

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Jeebus said:

Yeah, Scott, please do give your opinions, but you’re stating them as if they’re fact or demands. Like when you said “Personally, I like the idea of Anakin destroying the Droid Control Ship at such a young age, a feat which demonstrates his abilities as a pilot,” that’s fine, but for every other criticism you’re just going “no, don’t do that, do this.”

Alright. I was just trying to save time and use relatively few words. I did not want my tone to come across in that manner. Of course, my opinions are purely subjective, and they are not facts or demands. I can only give my point of view; I cannot speak for everyone. I figured that Smithers would want as much constructive feedback as possible from as many people as possible.

I have no idea how it would even be possible to pull off many of those changes. For example, Jango Fett is the assassin whom Obi-Wan is seeking in Episode II. If you remove him, would you not have to remove the assassination attempt as well? And if there is no assassination attempt, what is the explanation for why Anakin and Padmé travel to Naboo?

What surprises would removing Yoda from the Star Wars prequels preserve?

How will you change General Grievous’ four lightsabers into a single double-sided red lightsaber?

Wouldn’t the contrast between the live action Darth Maul and the CGI Darth Maul be too jarring?

Do you intend to remove Darth Maul’s death from Episode I?

What lightsaber fights (other than presumably Yoda’s) would you want to eliminate? What new ending would you have at the end of your second episode?

If Padmé does not die, why does she willingly part with her son Luke?

I am so confused!

Some of the changes, such as Anakin finishing C-3PO and taking him to Coruscant, more Darth Maul, the clone army intervening after the invasion of Naboo, a different child Anakin voice, and so forth, would be epic if you could pull them off.

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Bingowings said:

I will once again bore you all to death with my preferred sequence of events.

In ANH there is constant reference to the Rebel Hidden Base and the plans so it makes sense that the final destination of the film is Yavin and the use of the plans to destroy the Death Star. The characters all follow a path to that single destination which results in an action packed end sequence.

I would have Padme on Coruscant representing her people with representative Binks and trying to prevent an invasion diplomatically at the beginning of the film. Have some transmission on the Queen’s secret channel cut off and disputed as nonsense in the senate but supported by some Jedi (Dooku, Qui-Gon) with resistance (Maceinyourface Windu). She then heads off home and is shot down over Tatooine. They pick up Anakin after winning the parts to repair the ship and then rescue the significantly damaged planet by Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon landing on the droid command ship fighting droids and finally facing Maul in the reactor room. Obi-Wan shuts down the droid army or sends a full report to the senate and escapes before Anakin purposefully destroys the ship, everyone celebrates and they eat barbecued Jedi Master…

This would be interesting to watch.

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Smithers said:

Bingowings said:

<span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”> I watched the first trailer for</span> TPM <span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”>I assumed that the duel with Maul took place on a spaceship and that Padme telling everyone to get to their ships would take place in the same time that the earlier hanger scene took place.</span> TPM <span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”>(Naboo, Tatooine, Coruscant, Naboo) seems to go around in circles when it really needs to go in a straight line (for me Coruscant, Tatooine, Naboo).</span>

I’m going to play with this idea, I just realized that since the opening will be moved to the third act:

-Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon go to the droid control ship <span style=“line-height: 14.4px;”>undercover at</span> the end and are spotted so they have to fight some droids

-They make their way down to the hangar when Darth Maul shows up

-Meanwhile, Padme and Naboo soldiers battle droids in the palace while there’s a battle outside the droid control ship

-Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan battle Maul in the power generator and it ends with only Obi-Wan escaping alive

-Obi-Wan gets on that red ship (that didn’t get blown up) and destroys the control ship from the inside (instead of Anakin going into a war)

I know this would take some VFX but I think it would work

I like the idea of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon battling Darth Maul inside the Droid Control Ship. It would be reminiscent of Luke battling Vader and Sidious aboard the second Death Star.

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Also, what do you plan on calling your fan edit combining Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith?

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Scott109 said:

Smithers said:

Bingowings said:

<span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”> I watched the first trailer for</span> TPM <span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”>I assumed that the duel with Maul took place on a spaceship and that Padme telling everyone to get to their ships would take place in the same time that the earlier hanger scene took place.</span> TPM <span style=“font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em;”>(Naboo, Tatooine, Coruscant, Naboo) seems to go around in circles when it really needs to go in a straight line (for me Coruscant, Tatooine, Naboo).</span>

I’m going to play with this idea, I just realized that since the opening will be moved to the third act:

-Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon go to the droid control ship <span style=“line-height: 14.4px;”>undercover at</span> the end and are spotted so they have to fight some droids

-They make their way down to the hangar when Darth Maul shows up

-Meanwhile, Padme and Naboo soldiers battle droids in the palace while there’s a battle outside the droid control ship

-Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan battle Maul in the power generator and it ends with only Obi-Wan escaping alive

-Obi-Wan gets on that red ship (that didn’t get blown up) and destroys the control ship from the inside (instead of Anakin going into a war)

I know this would take some VFX but I think it would work

I like the idea of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon battling Darth Maul inside the Droid Control Ship. It would be reminiscent of Luke battling Vader and Sidious aboard the second Death Star.

This won’t be happening anymore. The control ship battle will be moved to the beginning.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Scott109 said:
Jango Fett is the assassin whom Obi-Wan is seeking in Episode II. If you remove him, would you not have to remove the assassination attempt as well? And if there is no assassination attempt, what is the explanation for why Anakin and Padmé travel to Naboo?

Obi Wan will go to investigate Dooku while Anakin and Padme go into hiding (no speeder chase)

What surprises would removing Yoda from the Star Wars prequels preserve?

In ESB, Yoda is made out to be a great warrior like the other Jedi and the audience is surprised when the little green puupet is revealed to be Yoda himself. Removing yoda from the PT will preserve that reveal.

How will you change General Grievous’ four lightsabers into a single double-sided red lightsaber?

I won’t.

Wouldn’t the contrast between the live action Darth Maul and the CGI Darth Maul be too jarring?

I don’t think so, since they’re a movie apart

Do you intend to remove Darth Maul’s death from Episode I?

No, he will be brought back in Episode 2

What lightsaber fights (other than presumably Yoda’s) would you want to eliminate? What new ending would you have at the end of your second episode?

-both of yoda’s
-anakin and obi wan vs dooku in AOTC
-palpatine vs windu (it’ll be an off screen battle)

If Padmé does not die, why does she willingly part with her son Luke?

she won’t willingly part with her son, i’ll upload a clip of what I’m doing

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Smithers said:

Scott109 said:
Jango Fett is the assassin whom Obi-Wan is seeking in Episode II. If you remove him, would you not have to remove the assassination attempt as well? And if there is no assassination attempt, what is the explanation for why Anakin and Padmé travel to Naboo?

Obi Wan will go to investigate Dooku while Anakin and Padme go into hiding (no speeder chase)

What surprises would removing Yoda from the Star Wars prequels preserve?

In ESB, Yoda is made out to be a great warrior like the other Jedi and the audience is surprised when the little green puppet is revealed to be Yoda himself. Removing yoda from the PT will preserve that reveal.

How will you change General Grievous’ four lightsabers into a single double-sided red lightsaber?

I won’t.

Wouldn’t the contrast between the live action Darth Maul and the CGI Darth Maul be too jarring?

I don’t think so, since they’re a movie apart

Do you intend to remove Darth Maul’s death from Episode I?

No, he will be brought back in Episode 2

What lightsaber fights (other than presumably Yoda’s) would you want to eliminate? What new ending would you have at the end of your second episode?

-both of yoda’s
-anakin and obi wan vs dooku in AOTC
-palpatine vs windu (it’ll be an off screen battle)

If Padmé does not die, why does she willingly part with her son Luke?

she won’t willingly part with her son, i’ll upload a clip of what I’m doing

Okay, thanks for explaining.

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Smithers said:

I’ve considered changing his sabers to red, I just don’t have the software or skills to rotoscope them 😦

I could do that for you. Would be only fair, after the help you’ve given me 😃

Besides, I was planning on doing it anyway down the road for my Ep3 edit.

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Sheepish said:

Smithers said:

I’ve considered changing his sabers to red, I just don’t have the software or skills to rotoscope them 😦

I could do that for you. Would be only fair, after the help you’ve given me 😃

Besides, I was planning on doing it anyway down the road for my Ep3 edit.

Awesome! I’ll send you color-corrected clips.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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I really like most of your ideas, especially the one about getting rid of Jar Jar Binks… I think you should start with getting rid of him anywhere outside of Naboo (the only place he serves any purpose other than being an annoying comic relief) I am certain you know about it, but I already did a little clip where I removed Jar Jar : https://vid.me/9xx8

I think you shouldn’t remove Yoda, but I don’t really hate the idea.

By the way, in my opinion, prequels already have way too many camera cuts (camera turns to Anakin, then it turns to Jar Jar, then it turns to Obi-Wan, then it goes to Amidala and so on, so many times) and it feels like so many things happening at once (while nothing really happens at all) I think it would be a good idea to reduce that. Camera shouldn’t shift soooo many times. I think that could be fixed.

While I like your idea about expanding Darth Maul a bit, the scenes you added looks a bit bad, I know they are not final so I don’t have much to say about them. But I think some color correction and several filters could remedy that.

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sansuni said:

I really like most of your ideas, especially the one about getting rid of Jar Jar Binks… I think you should start with getting rid of him anywhere outside of Naboo (the only place he serves any purpose other than being an annoying comic relief) I am certain you know about it, but I already did a little clip where I removed Jar Jar : https://vid.me/9xx8

I think you shouldn’t remove Yoda, but I don’t really hate the idea.

By the way, in my opinion, prequels already have way too many camera cuts (camera turns to Anakin, then it turns to Jar Jar, then it turns to Obi-Wan, then it goes to Amidala and so on, so many times) and it feels like so many things happening at once (while nothing really happens at all) I think it would be a good idea to reduce that. Camera shouldn’t shift soooo many times. I think that could be fixed.

While I like your idea about expanding Darth Maul a bit, the scenes you added looks a bit bad, I know they are not final so I don’t have much to say about them. But I think some color correction and several filters could remedy that.

Since there won’t be any Gungans at all in my edit, Jar Jar won’t even matter to the story. He’ll be completely absent from the film and I think most people will be happy about that.

I get what you’re saying about all of the quick cuts and I think I’ve reduced it quite a bit and the scenes that are plagued by it the most are either heavily reworked or gone altogether.

I agree that the fan film scenes dont fit in and that’s because they have no grain and have a different color scheme, this will all be fixed.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Sorry for not uploading anything for May the Fourth. I ran into a huge technical error and almost lost the entire edit but thanks to some users on the lwks forum, I’m back up and running!

I’m getting ready to upload some samples of Darth Maul’s redubs. The quality of many scenes can be changed with some very well written dialogue from the clone wars show. I’m throwing in as much Maul dialogue as possible, It’ll show that he’s intelligent and strong with the force.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Smithers said:

Sorry for not uploading anything for May the Fourth. I ran into a huge technical error and almost lost the entire edit but thanks to some users on the lwks forum, I’m back up and running!

I’m getting ready to upload some samples of Darth Maul’s redubs. The quality of many scenes can be changed with some very well written dialogue from the clone wars show. I’m throwing in as much Maul dialogue as possible, It’ll show that he’s intelligent and strong with the force.

The bit about using the clone wars dialogue to completely redefine the character in episode 3 is so cool! Keep up the good ideas!

Return of the Jedi: Remastered

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Here’s a few (very rough) clips showcasing the dubbing for Maul and the Neimodians. A few scenes have little to no sound effects and some have out of sync dialogue that may be too loud or too quiet.

Note that in the first and thirds clips Darth Maul is now the hologram rather than Sidious. I will color correct his hands to be dark blue to match his gloves but these clips are very rough. Let me know what you think: https://vimeo.com/165953515

Sorry for not uploading sooner! I completely forgot 😕

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329