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Ranking the Batman films — Page 8

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moviefreakedmind said:

I suppose I could’ve googled it.

You also asked what it was before, on like, page 1 or 2, so you could have remembered what it was from then. 😉

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Why would I dedicate space in my brain to Mask of the Phantasm? A movie I will never see, ever.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Why would I dedicate space in my brain to Mask of the Phantasm? A movie I will never see, ever.

Well, if you have any interest in Batman at all (and I would assume so considering you’re viewing and posting in this thread), I wouldn’t recommend never seeing it ever, as it is pretty good (and much better than the large majority of live action Batman films).

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But it doesn’t make sense. Unless the Joker has people waiting in every building just encase the Batman crashes a vehicle the Joker didn’t know he had into it.
The Joker is followed by the camera with Vicki into the cathedral and nobody else and when he gets to the top he sends the bell down to kill the bat and block the doorway. So where do the guys come from?

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why would I dedicate space in my brain to Mask of the Phantasm? A movie I will never see, ever.

Well, if you have any interest in Batman at all (and I would assume so considering you’re viewing and posting in this thread), I wouldn’t recommend never seeing it ever, as it is pretty good (and much better than the large majority of live action Batman films).

THIS. A googolplex times THIS.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Why would I dedicate space in my brain to Mask of the Phantasm? A movie I will never see, ever.

Well, if you have any interest in Batman at all (and I would assume so considering you’re viewing and posting in this thread), I wouldn’t recommend never seeing it ever, as it is pretty good (and much better than the large majority of live action Batman films).

I don’t doubt it’s quality, but realistically I will never make time to watch it; even if I did plan on watching it, I would forget.

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Finnius said:

  1. 1943: Batman, 15-chapter serial starring Lewis Wilson as Batman and Douglas Croft as Robin
  2. 1949: Batman and Robin, 15-chapter serial starring Robert Lowery as Batman and Johnny Duncan as Robin

nothing after 1949 is REALLY Batman. You had Adam West in the 60’s…and then a slew of shit-covered, muppet-fart campy movies…then the ‘dark knight’ trilogy…(which I enjoyed a lot but doesn’t compare to the serials of the 40’s)

Finnius has spoken. All who deign to oppose my view shall spend eternity sucking wet farts out of dead pigeons.

Just…what?

Not enough people read the EU.

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Based on what I’ve seen

  1. The Dark Knight: 9.1/10 (only other film besides ESB that I consider to be nearly perfect)
  2. Batman Begins: 8.3/10
  3. The Dark Knight Rises: 8/10
  4. Batman: Mask of Phantasm: 7.8/10
  5. Batman 89: 6.8/10 (other than Jack’s Joker there aren’t any redeeming qualities about this popcorn flick)
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Maybe if I had seen Batman 89 first but then again I’m not one for nostalgia effecting my view on things.

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Neither am I. Batman and Batman Returns are good movies independent of nostalgia.

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AFFECTING. I’m disappointed in Frink for letting that slide.

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Possessed said:

AFFECTING…

Oh crap! I didn’t even notice that I used an ‘e’. It’s all Haseo’s fault!

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Batman (1966)
Batman (1989)

Those are really the only two I watch anymore.

Adam West was my introduction to the character and he played it right out of the comic books. I watch an episode of the 1960s show almost weekly. He fit the character as-written at the time. I’m also a big fan of Keaton in the role. He kept the character grounded, brought in a touch of realism, yet he still kept one foot in the comic book world. I think that is an absolute must for the character to work. A great addition to the franchise and the mythos.

Batman only though. Batman Returns was terrible, but not because of Keaton. Tim Burton ruined it. It seems to be the film where he found his one-note signature style; Everyone has dark circles around their eyes, pale skin, and wild hair. I saw the film once in the theater, lost interest about halfway through and never watched it again. I remember nothing other than the fact that I thought it was bad.

If I had to rank the others;
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight Rises
The Dark Knight

I thought Bale was a good choice as a modern - what if he were real - portrayal. However, having Batman that grounded in reality took away from his mystique. There were a few scenes in the second and third films where I felt it bordered on parody. Plus that ridiculous voice.

The first of his three is by far the best. The second one gets taken over by Ledger constantly chewing the scenery. I find his portrayal of The Joker to be exhausting. The third one has some great moments, but drags on for way too long and the story is unnecessarily complex. Bale’s performance just hasn’t aged well for me.

The rest are forgettable. Clooney at the bottom, just above Kilmer. Two terrible portrayals in the two worst films in the character’s history. I saw each film only once and have forgotten nearly every moment of both of them. I agree with Sheldon Cooper on Big Bang Theory when he listed his arch enemies; “Joel Schumacher, who nearly ruined the Batman franchise.

I haven’t seen Batman v Superman yet, but just from the clips it looks like Affleck is better than Bale. He seems more believable. I suspect he’ll go to my #3. I’ll update after I go see it. I’m looking forward to a Batman-only Affleck film.

Worth pointing out; I have all the episodes of Beware The Batman and watch them with some regularity. I thought it was very well done. Nice to see Batman back to his detective roots.

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Anchorhead said:
Batman Returns was terrible, but not because of Keaton. Tim Burton ruined it. It seems to be the film where he found his one-note signature style; Everyone has dark circles around their eyes, pale skin, and wild hair.

Burton has updated his style… they all wear silly hats now too.

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Dek Rollins said:

Possessed said:

AFFECTING…

Oh crap! I didn’t even notice that I used an ‘e’. It’s all Haseo’s fault!

Actually I was talking about him, I was so caught up with him I didn’t even notice you did it too lol.

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TV’s Frink said:

Neither am I. Batman and Batman Returns are good movies independent of nostalgia.

Batman 89 maybe (though I find everything but Jack’s performance to be pitifully average) but I doubt I would find Batman Returns good due to what I’ve seen of it and the general consensus that it’s inferior to a film I’m not very fond of.

Dek Rollins said:
Oh crap! I didn’t even notice that I used an ‘e’. It’s all Haseo’s fault!

I often ask myself what isn’t my fault 😦

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If you don’t like Burton’s style I can see not liking Returns, but personally I find it to be more enjoyable than 89.

With that said, Burton’s style seemed fresh back then, and then he just kept doing it over and over and over.

With that said, I secretly enjoy his Willy Wonka movie.

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Possessed said:

AFFECTING. I’m disappointed in Frink for letting that slide.

So I get 16 minutes to respond to something before I’m called out for not responding to it?

Sounds reasonable.

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I have no nostalgia for Batman (89). That said, it is a great movie. And that’s coming from someone who also actually likes the Nolan films as well.

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