Harmy's Despecialized Star Wars 1977 - Color Adjustment Project for v2.7 (released) — Page 21

Given that widescreen is standard on all commercial DVDs and blurays these days, I don’t see why Harmy or anyone else should go to extreme lengths to satisfy the >1% of people who want “full screen” capabilities for whatever freaking reason. You wanna talk about the “casual viewer” and the “majority of people”, well the casual majority doesn’t care about a couple black bars allowing you to see the whole freakin unobstructed image.

But I’m sorry your fruitless attempts to adhere something to your weird ass preferences ruined the experience for you.

Just hit the zoom button on your TV I guess…

Wow… Not sure about feeling so great about helping you with your attitude but there is a free program called “Handbreak” that has an “auto crop” feature, and allows you to re-encode the video to mp4. It makes it very easy for me to make a more compact version for viewing on my cellphone.

Right?

The original wasn’t a cropped piece of shit, so please don’t say you had any intention of watching the original.

Furthermore, you could crop harmy’s into the piece of shit you so desire if you were willing to wrangle up a few brain cells for the task.

Finally, you didn’t download this version at all, since I never sent you the link. I’d tell you to fuck off, but unfortunately the appropriate thread is Harmy’s and I don’t want you there either.

Edit: I really can’t wrap my head around how stupid your request/criticism is. Films are sold in their appropriate aspect ratios except for in cases where someone screwed up. I can’t help but feel that this is the first time you’ve ever paid attention to aspect ratio and decided it bugs you. That’s the only way this makes sense.

“The original wasn’t a cropped piece of shit, so please don’t say you had any intention of watching the original.”

…The difference is that I’m watching it at home, not movie theater.

“Furthermore, you could crop harmy’s into the piece of shit you so desire if you were willing to wrangle up a few brain cells for the task.”

… I tried and it didn’t work. I don’t see anyone else here either finding solution for removing black bars on VLC player. The options are:
-Use another program which can do this
-Zoom your TV
-Crop the whole file using for example Avidemux filters. This might take several hours.
-Watch it letterboxed

“Finally, you didn’t download this version at all, since I never sent you the link. I’d tell you to fuck off, but unfortunately the appropriate thread is Harmy’s and I don’t want you there either.”

… I already stated which version I watched and it was available on kat.cr. You seem damn obnoxious, from the very first post of yours.

Anyways, sorry Harmy for any bad feelings. It’s a really nice version of Star Wars and the picture looks most parts exactly as I remembered it; the skin tones especially are closer to truth than the special editions, I feel. Some “white” scenes though seemed a bit too colourless and white, for example sand scenes outside on daylight.

I just never learned to love those black bars… shoot me. 😃

“Account created today? I smell a Troll (and I fell for it)”

…No, not a troll at all. I honestly came here to ask about this problem since it bothered me. I created account to specifically ask about it.

As for my comment you replied to: It is correct in principle… no restoration effort, no matter how well done, is useful if nobody uses it. There is a fine line between accuracy and practicality with these sort of things. I could bring up some examples from arcade emulation scene but you’d probably not be interested.

That’s all, I think, Cheers.

I think I actually answered you earlier. Are you cropping the left and right in addition to the top and bottom? You need to, because doing what you ask requires the sides to be lost.

My obnoxiousness is a result of you acting like we wasted your time by giving you a version that wasn’t screwed up. You’re the very first person I’ve ever seen request something so messed up, but you claim that we are minimizing interest by doing it the way everyone wants it (correctly). Go on blu-ray forums and suggest similarly bad ideas and see just how unpopular your preference is. You might be nearly the only person who wants to watch films in this manner.

Your comments on the color are even less appropriate in this thread since the entire project is about changing the color of the release you’re complaining about.

Oh, I’m not claiming that 2.35 is innately superior. Just that it’s absurd to later crop a film of part of its picture.

But even if it’s your preference, it’s extremely rude to tell people they’ve wasted your time by making the real version available to you. If you want a different version, great. Then make it.

This guy even posted a list of options he seems not to like. And complained about several hours to make the version he thinks is superior when others have spent hundreds of hours making the versions he mocks.

He’s not a troll, he’s just a rude ass.

“I think I actually answered you earlier. Are you cropping the left and right in addition to the top and bottom? You need to, because doing what you ask requires the sides to be lost.”

…Yes I am doing that.

“My obnoxiousness is a result of you acting like we wasted your time by giving you a version that wasn’t screwed up. You’re the very first person I’ve ever seen request something so messed up, but you claim that we are minimizing interest by doing it the way everyone wants it (correctly). Go on blu-ray forums and suggest similarly bad ideas and see just how unpopular your preference is. You might be nearly the only person who wants to watch films in this manner.”

…I’m certain there are lots of people who don’t like black bars on top and bottom. This is a matter of preference. Now if this file wasn’t letterboxed one could easily choose whether they want to see it wide or cropped - This would be optimal.
The downfall apparently would then be that then you couldn’t burn it on Blu-ray? I agree a BR should have all the material aka not cropped version… I simply didn’t realize that that’s what the torrent was all about, to burn it on Blu-ray rather than to keep it on HD and watch a couple of times.

“Your comments on the color are even less appropriate in this thread since the entire project is about changing the color of the release you’re complaining about.”

…Wait, so comments on colour correction are unwanted on forum about comments on colour correction. One learns something new every day…

No the point is that you’re referring to the colors of a release that is not the one being discussed on this thread, and this project is actually entirely about changing those colors.

I don’t see why zooming in on your tv is such a bad option for you. Incredibly easy, quick, and accomplishes the exact same thing that cropping in some other program would.

You haven’t seen the version this thread is about. Hopefully you did learn something today, despite your best efforts.

TJT said:

…I’m certain there are lots of people who don’t like black bars on top and bottom.

Yeah and they’re all in their 70s…

Seriously, the only people I ever see complain about the black bars are people who don’t understand the idea of aspect ratios and think the bars are cutting off the image.

What’s baffling to me is that you seem to fully understand aspect ratios, yet actually want to cut off part of the image.

If that’s your preference, fine, but don’t come here acting all arrogant insulting the very people involved in spending countless hours making this damn thing for anyone to enjoy, and act like we’re all wasting your time by giving you legitimate answers just because they aren’t quick and easy and what you want to hear.

The fact is that your preference is a very unpopular preference, and because of that, there isnt any need to sacrifice bluray compatibility just so that people watching on a HD have the option of cropping the image.

You are literally the first person on this forum asking for something like this. We’re trying to help as much as possible, but then you start giving really rude responses and it makes it a lot harder to take you seriously.

Yeah, we think you have a really backwards, weird, oddball preference, but if you had been kind and respectful and not act all impatient and rude at us trying to help you as best we can, things probably would’ve gone smoother.

You don’t make an account and then immediately start bitching about things. It’s the equivalent of starting your first day at a new job and then complaining that the boss doesn’t run things correctly. Yeah making suggestions and putting in your opinion is fine, but people aren’t going to take you seriously if you’re an ass about it.

Your comments to towne32 are particularly disturbing to me, considering he’s put more time and energy into this damn project than you can probably guess, and you feel like it’s ok to come on, derail his thread, act like an arrogant troll, and then insult him for the way he tried to answer your question.

“I don’t see why zooming in on your tv is such a bad option for you. Incredibly easy, quick, and accomplishes the exact same thing that cropping in some other program would.”

… Probably yes. However this computer is connected to a TV which doesn’t let one to modify aspect ratio during “PC mode”. I’m watching it on PC which is connected to TV.

Ok, see. That’s what you say. You don’t act like it was a bad suggestion and a waste of time. How hard is it to say “thank you, but my set up is actually like this, therefore zooming in wont work. Does anyone have any other suggestions?”

Like you need to understand it’s not your inquiry that’s pissing people off, it’s the lack of respect.

Yep. And acting like the actual releases should be that screwed up version. It would be wildly unpopular and rightly panned.

Want help? Post your vlc settings and a screenshot of how it looks. It really should be possible I think.

TJT said:
As for my comment you replied to: It is correct in principle… no restoration effort, no matter how well done, is useful if nobody uses it. There is a fine line between accuracy and practicality with these sort of things. I could bring up some examples from arcade emulation scene but you’d probably not be interested.

That’s all, I think, Cheers.

Well, let me clear things up for you: You’re just plain stupid and selfish - way too narrow-minded to see that you are the 0,01 % while everyone else preferes full picture information. If you want some cropped piece of shit, please do it yourself.

“The fact is that your preference is a very unpopular preference, and because of that, there isnt any need to sacrifice bluray compatibility just so that people watching on a HD have the option of cropping the image.”

… that seems to be the problem in a nutshell… I didn’t realize that it MUST be letterboxed in order to get full wide screen for BR. Most torrents are not letterboxed.

“You are literally the first person on this forum asking for something like this.”

…That surprises me. It’s not like TV always shows the wide screen version either, even when one is available.

“Just go into the manual crop in VLC, crop off the letterbox, then crop off the desired amount of side-image, and enjoy your botched version of Star Wars.”

…I closed VLC and tried this again. Now it works with manual cropping, while previously it didn’t. Odd. Problem solved, thank you. Now if I only found my old CRT… ahhhhh.

Me right now, having not looked at this thread for a few days:

TJT said:

“The fact is that your preference is a very unpopular preference, and because of that, there isnt any need to sacrifice bluray compatibility just so that people watching on a HD have the option of cropping the image.”

… that seems to be the problem in a nutshell… I didn’t realize that it MUST be letterboxed in order to get full wide screen for BR. Most torrents are not letterboxed.

“You are literally the first person on this forum asking for something like this.”

…That surprises me. It’s not like TV always shows the wide screen version either, even when one is available.

“Just go into the manual crop in VLC, crop off the letterbox, then crop off the desired amount of side-image, and enjoy your botched version of Star Wars.”

…I closed VLC and tried this again. Now it works with manual cropping, while previously it didn’t. Odd. Problem solved, thank you. Now if I only found my old CRT… ahhhhh.

So after all this I think the issue (aside from attitude) may still be that you don’t understand aspect ratios.

If it happened to be filmed in exactly 16:9 it will have zero black bars on your 16:9 TV.

If it is 4:3, it will have black bars on the sides.

If it’s 1.40:1 or 1.35:1 it will have bars on the tops and bottoms.

The issue really isn’t whether or not the file was made for BD compatibility or not. Even if we didn’t care about that, it would still be rendered with the same aspect ratio (vlc would just add it like it does for 4:3 video). Even if there was more than just you requesting this, the logical thing to do is release the intact film. You can come along and do whatever you want to it. But if it was released the way you want, there would be no way for the thousands if people who want it intact to uncrop it. Does that make sense?