The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS ** — Page 87

I wonder how you can give grades to movies. “The end credits are a 9.5/10. The opening crawl is only 6.725/10 though”.

5 is better.

Like, whats the difference between 7/10 movie and 8/10 movie?

1 - Garbage
2 - Bad
3 - Ok
4 - Good
5 - Classic

7/10 is usually referred to as good

8/10 is usually referred to as great

at least by the gaming community

Whats 9 then?

Amazing

10/10 is perfect

HansiG said:

5 is better.

Like, whats the difference between 7/10 movie and 8/10 movie?

1 - Garbage
2 - Bad
3 - Ok
4 - Good
5 - Classic

1-5 is clear and straightforward, it’s true. For us OCD types, though, we need a larger spectrum to accomodate a finer splitting of minutiae.

After viewing the film for the nth time I’m wondering if Rey is pretty much related to nobody in the original cast.

I think it’s safe to say that this film is an anti-prequel. Meaning anything having to do with the prequels is removed in every way (overly complex story, art design, huge cg crowds, childish anything). I think the fact that the only even remotely prequel moment (the republic capital) is wiped out is a funny aside at their real feelings about Lucas prequels.

That said, what about Rey? If one of the big parts of the prequels is that everyone is related, then it can be assumed that this new cast is related to nobody. And that includes Rey.

So who is she? We know she had a family. We don’t know if she even remembers who they are. The family (or someone who knew them) dropped her off on Jakku. That’s pretty much all the facts we get.

She has a few visions in the film. One is of the Luke’s acadamy being wiped out, Kylo Ren coming for her in the forest which is the future and another we don’t see of an island which is again maybe the future. I think her family were the Jedi who were wiped out, not necessarily Luke.

But none of that means she’s related to any of the original cast. It’s easy to say she’s Luke’s daughter but wouldn’t be more interesting if she’s just some random jedi sensitive girl caught up in a huge adventure? Her real family dropped her off with Luke to be trained and she was the lone survivor of his students for whatever reason. It sounds like Kylo had mercy on her or that Luke wouldn’t let Kylo destroy the child.

Also, since episode 7 is a riff on A New Hope and Return of the Jedi then its safe to say the next episode will riff on Empire Strikes Back. Luke will be Yoda here with the island as Dagobah. But related to Luke? We’ll see but I’m going to guess no.

The only thing that connects her to Luke is her lightsaber strike and kick at the end of the fight with Kylo. But that could mean anything.

ratpack1961 said:
One is of the Luke’s acadamy being wiped out,

Nope.

and another we don’t see of an island which is again maybe the future.

But Rey dreams about it though.

Lord Haseo said:

ratpack1961 said:
One is of the Luke’s acadamy being wiped out,

Nope.

and another we don’t see of an island which is again maybe the future.

But Rey dreams about it though.

Just because she dreams about it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily from the past. The Jedi also see into the future of course. She may have been having visions of the island for a long time.

Definitely can’t rule out that it’s from the future.

On a side note I wonder if the place in which Luke places his hand on R2 is the same island. I don’t think that’s the case though.

If I’m not mistaken R2 got (at least part of) the map from when he plugged himself into the Death Star in STAR WARS.

Lord Haseo said:

Definitely can’t rule out that it’s from the future.

On a side note I wonder if the place in which Luke places his hand on R2 is the same island. I don’t think that’s the case though.

Thats a good point about the hand. Pablo’s tweet is confusing isn’t it? It’s a clan leader but it looks like it’s the same place Luke is with R2. And that low angle shot is probably from Rey when she was a little girl looking at Luke.

I do like parts of the prequels and have enjoyed them. But I noticed the fun aspect of TFA makes it a less morose and more fun experience to watch.

I’m sure all the visions will be explained in the next films. My post was mostly about Rey’s family and how they’re trying to do everything to keep it as OT as possible and avoiding whatever the prequels really did stylistically and story wise. What’s interesting is that we’re now seeing kids posting on imdb (and I’m sure TFN which I avoid) that are anti TFA and pro prequels. I like all the films but it’s an interesting turn of events.

ratpack1961 said:
Thats a good point about the hand. Pablo’s tweet is confusing isn’t it? It’s a clan leader but it looks like it’s the same place Luke is with R2. And that low angle shot is probably from Rey when she was a little girl looking at Luke.

It’s unclear due to the rain and whatnot. You could also say that when the clan leader was about to swing down at whoever it could have Rey as well with Kylo Ren saving her.

I’m sure all the visions will be explained in the next films.

They better be. I also hope that they might explore “Force Flashbacks” more and make them into full on flashbacks.

What’s interesting is that we’re now seeing kids posting on imdb (and I’m sure TFN which I avoid) that are anti TFA and pro prequels. I like all the films but it’s an interesting turn of events.

Those types of opinions don’t deserve my confusion much less my spite. I either designate them as insane, young or contrarians and go about my day.

Please delete.

If I were doing an edit on TFA, my first change would be the first few bars of the main title. The performance and mix were so glaringly different than all of the previous 6 films that it jumped out at me when I saw the film in the theater the first time. How could they mess that up? I’d reuse the SW theme and just find a good cut to jump back to the newly recorded theme before it heads to Jakku.

sunday256 said:

If I were doing an edit on TFA

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Force-Awakens-Fan-Edit-Ideas-SPOILERS/id/46843