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Post #905281

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Harmy
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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Date created
7-Feb-2016, 11:34 AM

Wow - this became messy since I’ve last been here. OK, let me try to answer your questions.

Fang Zei said:

re: the wipes

Which ones are they and were they not salvageable from the lpp print?

It’s not so much that they weren’t salvageable as it is that I’d have had to replace shots on both ends, or at least one end, completely and I didn’t think it was necessary.

Here are the things from 005’s gallery
( https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825 ) that remian in this cut:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5529747108149536594?pid=5529747108149536594&oid=102542760950977079734 - this is not actually a change - the garbage mattes are simply not visible due to higher contrast of the transfer.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160952/picture:0

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5562147042301698642?pid=5562147042301698642&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5562147050689888866?pid=5562147050689888866&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5562147052869174274?pid=5562147052869174274&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5562147057523676514?pid=5562147057523676514&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5562147065052555314?pid=5562147065052555314&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5562147070509222946?pid=5562147070509222946&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5562147044233126290?pid=5562147044233126290&oid=102542760950977079734

Again, all of the above are not actually changed - the thicker scan-lines in the GOUT are due to the downscaling of the image.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160952/picture:1

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5529747161311639586?pid=5529747161311639586&oid=102542760950977079734

This one probably has been redone, but it has been done optically in '97 and they look nearly identical in motion, so I don’t see much of a reason to lower the quality of the entire image for it.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160952/picture:2

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5529747315417668658?pid=5529747315417668658&oid=102542760950977079734

Again, this is not actually a change and the slightly different look is due to the DNR of the GOUT and differences in contrast and resolution.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160952/picture:3

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5528361230751063825/5529747327571411234?pid=5529747327571411234&oid=102542760950977079734

This one is also not recomposited but the wipe leading up to it is new and the shot got shifted by a couple of frames, which is why the ships seem in different positions in comparison on the same timeline. I left this wipe, because again it has been done optically in '97 and aside from the tiny bit different timing, it looks the same.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160952/picture:4
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160952/picture:5

In v3.0, I probably will remove even those last two remaining changes but they will require a lot cleanup and matching work and they make so little difference that for now I decided to leave them.

HanDuet said:

Harmy said:

Here are the NFOs. Please let me know if you find any inaccuracies or typos

Hi Harmy! Not a correction, but I recommend shortening the links to OriginalTrilogy.com forum threads by removing the thread title from the URL to leave only “…/topic/id/#####”. The links function exactly the same way.

ORIGINAL:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-Despecialized-Edition-HD-AVCHD-DVD9-and-NTSC-DVD5-available-SEE-FIRST-POST/id/12905
SHORTER:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/id/12905

ORIGINAL:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/topic/13794/
SHORTER:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/id/13794/

Thanks - I will use that 😃

Discostu said:

FrankT said:

Harmy said:

TRACK 20) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2011 BD Archival Interviews Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 22) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Music] (Isolated Score)

Where’s Track 21?

Hidden Bonus Track featuring Harmy’s personal audio commentary with interesting details about the Despecialization I hope

Don’t get your hopes up - it’s just an honest mistake - there are only 21 audio tracks.

Jonno said:

I can see RotJ Grindhouse (if that’s what you’re calling it) might warrant its own thread before long, but for now…

Before it was GOUT synced, did the print/scan include anything else of interest? MPAA/BBFC/Dolby logos?

Not really. I do have the MPAA from a different print but didn’t include it here.

Jim_e said:

Even if it’s only in the Grindhouse I’m looking forward to seeing the section that’s out of focus on the Blu-ray done properly. A shame that the ‘professionals’ at Lucasfilm couldn’t even scan the film properly!

Don’t be so sure that it’s only in the Grindhouse:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160960/picture:0
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160960/picture:1
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160960/picture:2
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160960/picture:3
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160960/picture:4
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160960/picture:5
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160960/picture:6

ksakacep said:

trikztar said:

“This is a fan preservation made […]”

Shouldn’t it be “This is a fan made preservation […]”

I’m not too sure about it though and English isn’t my native language, so I could be wrong.

Awesome project you’re working on btw. Respect!

  • t

“It’s a fan made preservation for…” doesn’t quite work. Harmy uses the word "made’ to specify what it’s made for, not to emphasise that it’s fan made.

This exactly! Thank you.

DarkJedi360 said:

Hi Harmy, thanks a lot for your efforts and for those 2 editions of ROTJ. I can’t wait to watch them 😃

Will you include all the audio tracks and subtitles from the despecialized edition into the RotJ Grindhouse file?

Probably not - I will probably include the English 1983 5.1 and stereo and maybe the commentary and isolated score tracks (I plan on watching it with the iso score myself and make a different experience out of it) and everyone can mux in any other tracks themselves.
I will include the same Project Threepio subtitle folder with the download though.