Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1 — Page 91

Memorex said:

Harmy said:

No correct guesses so far 😉

A cleaned up version of the complete 35 mm scan?

SSE - Grindhouse - 35mm Jedi, the last one missing?

https://youtu.be/HNGXsgLRkXU
Well, minus the cleanup 😄
Yes - I’m currently rendering a complete 35mm Grindhouse version of ROTJ - TN1 expressed several times that they had no plans to release a grindhouse version of ROTJ and since we now have 35mm transfers of both SW and ESB, and I do have a complete 4K scan of an LPP print, I decided to go ahead and do it.
Actually, at first, I just wanted a source for my comparison gallery for Jedi, to use instead of GOUT but then I thought why not release the whole thing, since I’m already doing it. It’s just basic color correction and nothing else, so it’s shaky with lots of grain, dirt and scratches, but for those who enjoy that grindhouse experience, it shoud serve very well - and the colors aren’t faded at all.

Though the scan had a very heavy blue cast and was very dark, so I still had to do a lot of hokery-pokery to get the colors to look decent, and each reel, and sometimes each scene, needed completely different settings, so that also means it can hardly be considered a color reference. Pretty much all scans are like that before correction, so 35mm scans can only be considered a color reference, if they were color-corrected by someone actually looking at the 35mm print being projected traditionally.

Harmy said:

Memorex said:

Harmy said:

No correct guesses so far 😉

A cleaned up version of the complete 35 mm scan?

SSE - Grindhouse - 35mm Jedi, the last one missing?

https://youtu.be/HNGXsgLRkXU
Well, minus the cleanup 😄

Woho!

I have a wild and happy idea… Harmy, does this bonus mystery have someone else’s username attached to it, perchance?

Oh dang, I blame the new forum for not reading the last few posts…

Harmy said:

OK, encoding is done on both the MKV and AVCHD versions. I’m probably gonna give them a watch tomorrow and then I should be all set for the Sunday release. 😃

Oh, it’s finished already?!

Wow this means we now have 35mm scans of each of the three original films. To think this was just a figment of our wildest dreams so many years ago. Thank you Harmy! And Negative 1, Poita and everyone else I’m forgetting.

It’s taking ages to render from these 4K files - 18 hours elapsed and 12 hours remaining. It’s probably because I’m rendering from a 5TB USB3 drive, since I don’t currently have enough space for the files on the internal drives.

Before anyone asks, it will be 1080p - I tested it and there would be virtually no benefit in releasing this in 4K and everything would take four times as long and have to be 4 times bigger.

And it is GOUT synced - I replaced the missing frames with just black frames, as I felt that for a Grindhouse version, that was the best solution. I think none of the missing frames are in shots altered in the SE, so for some future cleaned up version, the missing frames (or to make sure they match, the entire shots) could be replaced with the BD.

Yeah, I’d say it’s on about the same quality level as ESB grindhouse, except for color, of course.
And I’m not sure if TN1 has this same scan but I’m pretty sure they do already have a scan of this print.

Did you skip last page?

So… do you think I should watch the 35mm transfer or Despecialized Edition 2.5?

For normal viewing, I recommend Despecialized. ROTJ v2.5 is despecialized pretty much completely, apart from a couple of wipes, so for all intents and purposes it is the original version.

Less than 24 hours until ROTJ v.2.5! Never saw v.1.0 so I’m excited!

Here are the NFOs. Please let me know if you find any inaccuracies or typos:

                    HARMY PROUDLY PRESENTS                                                                                
                                                                                               
                                                                                                
           RETURN OF THE JEDI - DESPECIALIZED EDITION REMASTERED (v2.5)

|This is a fan preservation made for culturally historical and educational purposes. |
|Fanedits and preservations must not be bought or sold. |
|Please report every fanedit or preservation you find for sale to webmasters of originaltrilogy.com. |
|Fanedits and preservations are an artform and to be shared among legal owners of the officially available releases only. |
|Do not support piracy. |
|_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________|

This is a reconstruction of the 1983 theatrical version of STAR WARS. The original shots were painstakingly restored using
various sources (listed below) and the film received an extensive shot by shot colour correction based on a fade free 1983
LPP Print. ROTJ v2.5 is despecialized pretty much completely, apart from a couple of wipes, so for all intents and purposes
it is the original version.

The remastered version (v2.5) represented a significant improvement in picture quality over the earlier 1.0 version
due to the use of better encoding and higher quality sources and replacing many of the despecialized shots with
higher quality ones.

Version v2.0 only came out as a limited release workprint.

A gallery showing all the changes can be found here:
https://photos.google.com/u/1/album/AF1QipOUewV3aQ2QnhCC2WsLwE6sihIE9zvVIkiF8GB6

The MKV version contains a large number of audio tracks, including the latest versions of the preservations
of the original audio mixes in DTS-HD MA, three different commentary tracks, an isolated score and dubbing
tracks in 13 different languages.

More information can be found here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-Despecialized-Edition-HD-AVCHD-DVD9-and-NTSC-DVD5-available-SEE-FIRST-POST/id/12905

VIDEO SOURCES:

1. Star Wars Episode VI Return of the Jedi Official Blu-Ray (2011)

2. LPP 35mm print scans (Team Negative 1 and Poita)

3. Schorman’s HDTV Preservation - Return of the Jedi (2004 DVD version)

4. RETURN OF THE JEDI 2006 Bonus DVD (sourced from the 1993 Definitive Edition Laser Disc Master - upscaled by Dark Jedi)

5. RETURN OF THE PUG (1983 16mm print transfer)

6. Custom mattes

Technical Specifications:

CONTAINER: MKV

SIZE: 17.8 GB

VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps

AUDIO: (Special thanks to hairy_hen, Schorman, CatBus and Pitrek)

TRACK 1) 5.1 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1983 mix)

TRACK 2) 2.0 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1983 mix)

TRACK 3) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1993 Laserdisc mix)

TRACK 4) 2.0 Dolby Digital [German] (1983 dub reconstruction)

TRACK 5) 2.0 Dolby Digital [French] (1983 dub)

TRACK 6) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (1983 Castilian dub)

TRACK 7) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (1983 American Spanish dub)

TRACK 8) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Portuguese] (1980s Brazilian dub)

TRACK 9) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Japanese] (1983 dub)

TRACK 10) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Italian] (1983 dub)

TRACK 11) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Polish] (1995 Voiceover)

TRACK 12) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Czech] (1992 dub)

TRACK 13) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Hungarian] (1983 dub)

TRACK 14) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Slovak] (1997 dub)

TRACK 15) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Russian] (2004 dub)

TRACK 16) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Russian] (1980s Voiceover)

TRACK 17) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Ukrainian] (2004 Voiceover)

TRACK 18) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)

TRACK 19) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2004 DVD Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 20) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2011 BD Archival Interviews Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 22) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Music] (Isolated Score)

SUBTITLES: (Special thanks to CatBus)

ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄż
ł LANGUAGES INCLUDED ł
ĂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ´
ł English Brazilian Portuguese Persian/Farsi Swedish ł
ł English SDH European Portuguese Polish Bulgarian ł
ł Mandarin/Simplified German Thai Danish ł
ł Mandarin/Traditional Indonesian Ukrainian Hebrew ł
ł Cantonese Malay Romanian Finnish ł
ł American Spanish Japanese Dutch Norwegian ł
ł Castilian Spanish Italian Croatian Slovenian ł
ł French Korean Hungarian Estonian ł
ł Arabic Vietnamese Greek Icelandic ł
ł Russian Turkish Czech ł
ŔÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄŮ

All subtitles are from “Project Threepio v9.0”

More info here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/topic/13794/

The Project Threepio subtitle folder also includes all the information on using the subtitles.

                    HARMY PROUDLY PRESENTS                                                                                
                                                                                               
                                                                                                
           RETURN OF THE JEDI - DESPECIALIZED EDITION REMASTERED (v2.5)

|This is a fan preservation made for culturally historical and educational purposes. |
|Fanedits and preservations must not be bought or sold. |
|Please report every fanedit or preservation you find for sale to webmasters of originaltrilogy.com. |
|Fanedits and preservations are an artform and to be shared among legal owners of the officially available releases only. |
|Do not support piracy. |
|_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________|

This is a reconstruction of the 1983 theatrical version of Return of the Jedi. The original shots were painstakingly restored using
various sources (listed below) and the film received an extensive shot by shot colour correction based on a fade free 1983
LPP Print. ROTJ v2.5 is despecialized pretty much completely, apart from a couple of wipes, so for all intents and purposes
it is the original version.

The remastered version (v2.5) represented a significant improvement in picture quality over the earlier 1.0 version
due to the use of better encoding and higher quality sources and replacing many of the despecialized shots with
higher quality ones.

Version v2.0 only came out as a limited release workprint.

A gallery showing all the changes can be found here:
https://photos.google.com/u/1/album/AF1QipOUewV3aQ2QnhCC2WsLwE6sihIE9zvVIkiF8GB6

The AVCHD version contains the latest versions of the preservations of the original audio mix, three different
commentary tracks and an isolated score.

More information can be found here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-Despecialized-Edition-HD-AVCHD-DVD9-and-NTSC-DVD5-available-SEE-FIRST-POST/id/12905

VIDEO SOURCES:

1. Star Wars Episode VI Return of the Jedi Official Blu-Ray (2011)

2. LPP 35mm print scans (Team Negative 1 and Poita)

3. Schorman’s HDTV Preservation - Return of the Jedi (2004 DVD version)

4. RETURN OF THE JEDI 2006 Bonus DVD (sourced from the 1993 Definitive Edition Laser Disc Master - upscaled by Dark Jedi)

5. RETURN OF THE PUG (1983 16mm print transfer)

6. Custom mattes

Technical Specifications:

CONTAINER: MKV

SIZE: 7.8 GB

VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps

AUDIO: (all Dolby Digital) Special thanks to hairy_hen, Schorman and CatBus

TRACK 1) 5.1 1983 mix @ 640Kbps

TRACK 2) 2.0 1983 mix @ 224Kbps

TRACK 3) 2.0 Isolated score @ 224Kbps

TRACK 4) 2.0 1993 LD Audio Commentary @ 192Kbps (silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)

TRACK 5) 2.0 2004 DVD Audio Commentary @ 160Kbps

TRACK 6) 2.0 2011 BD Archival Interviews Audio Commentary @ 160Kbps

SUBTITLES: (Project Threepio) Special thanks to CatBus

English [eng] (pgs)
Chinese [chi] (pgs)
American Spanish [spa] (pgs)
Castilian Spanish [spa] (pgs)
Arabic [ara] (pgs)
Russian [rus] (pgs)
Brazilian Portuguese [por] (pgs)
Japanese [jpn] (pgs)
French [fre] (pgs)
German [ger] (pgs)
Turkish [tur] (pgs)
Korean [kor] (pgs)
Italian [ita] (pgs)
Polish [pol] (pgs)
Ukrainian [ukr] (pgs)
Dutch [dut] (pgs)
Hungarian [hun] (pgs)
Czech [cze] (pgs)
Greek [gre] (pgs)
Swedish [swe] (pgs)
Finnish [fin] (pgs)
Danish [dan] (pgs)
Norwegian [nor] (pgs)

The ISO image can be burned to a DVD-DL and should work in most Blu-Ray players.

To burn, you can use imgburn following these instructions:

https://neosmart.net/wiki/burning-iso-images-with-imgburn/

Looks good Harmy, couldn’t spot any errors!

schorman13 said:

That file on chapter db doesn’t match what I get from my copy. I’ll post it here:

CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Opening Logos
CHAPTER02=00:00:21.000
CHAPTER02NAME=Return of the Jedi
CHAPTER03=00:01:55.167
CHAPTER03NAME=Vader’s Unexpected Visit
CHAPTER04=00:05:00.634
CHAPTER04NAME=Arrival at Jabba’s Palace
CHAPTER05=00:08:10.468
CHAPTER05NAME=A Message and a Gift
CHAPTER06=00:12:21.968
CHAPTER06NAME=The Max Rebo Band
CHAPTER07=00:13:55.135
CHAPTER07NAME=The Price for Chewbacca
CHAPTER08=00:17:06.469
CHAPTER08NAME=Free from the Carbonite
CHAPTER09=00:21:40.303
CHAPTER09NAME=Enter The Jedi
CHAPTER10=00:24:38.303
CHAPTER10NAME=“Oh No! The Rancor!”
CHAPTER11=00:29:07.137
CHAPTER11NAME=On the Sail Barge
CHAPTER12=00:30:43.005
CHAPTER12NAME=The Sarlacc Pit
CHAPTER13=00:36:56.138
CHAPTER13NAME=The Emperor Arrives
CHAPTER14=00:38:44.305
CHAPTER14NAME=Yoda’s Twilight
CHAPTER15=00:44:28.972
CHAPTER15NAME=A Certain Point of View
CHAPTER16=00:47:34.639
CHAPTER16NAME=Rebel Briefing
CHAPTER17=00:50:46.840
CHAPTER17NAME=Lending the Falcon
CHAPTER18=00:52:43.007
CHAPTER18NAME=The Emperor’s Instructions
CHAPTER19=00:53:35.507
CHAPTER19NAME=Flying Casual
CHAPTER20=00:56:05.507
CHAPTER20NAME=Arrival on Endor
CHAPTER21=00:57:54.007
CHAPTER21NAME=Speeder Bike Chase
CHAPTER22=01:01:51.507
CHAPTER22NAME=Leia Meets Wicket
CHAPTER23=01:05:29.007
CHAPTER23NAME=Vader’s Report
CHAPTER24=01:06:57.174
CHAPTER24NAME=An Ewok Trap
CHAPTER25=01:11:10.341
CHAPTER25NAME=The Golden God
CHAPTER26=01:15:02.175
CHAPTER26NAME=Campfire Stories
CHAPTER27=01:17:23.842
CHAPTER27NAME=Brother and Sister
CHAPTER28=01:21:39.842
CHAPTER28NAME=Luke Surrenders
CHAPTER29=01:25:15.342
CHAPTER29NAME=Rebel Recon
CHAPTER30=01:26:00.509
CHAPTER30NAME=The Alliance Fleet
CHAPTER31=01:26:59.509
CHAPTER31NAME=Back Door
CHAPTER32=01:29:13.009
CHAPTER32NAME=Luke and The Emperor
CHAPTER33=01:32:27.176
CHAPTER33NAME=“It’s a Trap!”
CHAPTER34=01:35:49.343
CHAPTER34NAME=Ewok Attack
CHAPTER35=01:39:32.877
CHAPTER35NAME=Fully Operational
CHAPTER36=01:41:30.711
CHAPTER36NAME=The Battle Rages
CHAPTER37=01:43:35.211
CHAPTER37NAME=The Dark Side Beckons
CHAPTER38=01:44:34.244
CHAPTER38NAME=The Ewoks Turn the Tide
CHAPTER39=01:47:49.544
CHAPTER39NAME=Father vs, Son
CHAPTER40=01:49:47.711
CHAPTER40NAME=Taking the Bunker
CHAPTER41=01:50:44.045
CHAPTER41NAME=A Jedi’s Fury
CHAPTER42=01:53:43.879
CHAPTER42NAME=The Shield is Down
CHAPTER43=01:54:15.213
CHAPTER43NAME=Force Lightning
CHAPTER44=01:55:04.213
CHAPTER44NAME=Vader’s Redemption
CHAPTER45=01:56:46.747
CHAPTER45NAME=Into The Death Star
CHAPTER46=01:58:40.715
CHAPTER46NAME=Anakin Unmasked
CHAPTER47=02:01:05.215
CHAPTER47NAME=Death Star Destroyed
CHAPTER48=02:03:56.749
CHAPTER48NAME=Funeral Pyre
CHAPTER49=02:04:33.216
CHAPTER49NAME=Celebration
CHAPTER50=02:06:21.050
CHAPTER50NAME=End Credits

Well, I pasted this list into TS Muxer’s chapter tab and there are no chapter in the muxed AVCHD.

You don’t need the names.

towne32 said:

Your comparison gallery isn’t live yet. You probably know this. I just really want to look at it 😉

This was also the first thing I checked 😉