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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 14

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swagmasta69 said:

I would like to see TN1’s new restoration screened in a theater though.
It looks so amazing.

That would be SO cool! I love their projects so much.

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THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve got a twinge of nostalgia for the Phantom Menace, and still get a little bit of enjoyment from watching it. I don’t have any nostalgia for Attack of the Clones, or Revenge of the Sith so I don’t think I care to ever see either of those again. Even with nostalgia aside I do believe that TPM is objectively the best of the prequels. ROTS has a high body count and is more violent, but overall it’s less watchable than TPM in my opinion since it looks very video-gamey whereas TPM looks pretty good to this day (other than some CGI).

I agree with you, but it sounds like your saying a high body count and more violence is a pro.

It isn’t necessarily a pro for me (at least not in a Star Wars film), but I think it’s a reason why a lot of fans find it more watchable than the other two prequels.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve got a twinge of nostalgia for the Phantom Menace, and still get a little bit of enjoyment from watching it. I don’t have any nostalgia for Attack of the Clones, or Revenge of the Sith so I don’t think I care to ever see either of those again. Even with nostalgia aside I do believe that TPM is objectively the best of the prequels. ROTS has a high body count and is more violent, but overall it’s less watchable than TPM in my opinion since it looks very video-gamey whereas TPM looks pretty good to this day (other than some CGI).

I agree with you, but it sounds like your saying a high body count and more violence is a pro.

It isn’t necessarily a pro for me (at least not in a Star Wars film), but I think it’s a reason why a lot of fans find it more watchable than the other two prequels.

I know that, and I’ve never understood how “it’s the darkest of the three” makes it a better film.

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Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve got a twinge of nostalgia for the Phantom Menace, and still get a little bit of enjoyment from watching it. I don’t have any nostalgia for Attack of the Clones, or Revenge of the Sith so I don’t think I care to ever see either of those again. Even with nostalgia aside I do believe that TPM is objectively the best of the prequels. ROTS has a high body count and is more violent, but overall it’s less watchable than TPM in my opinion since it looks very video-gamey whereas TPM looks pretty good to this day (other than some CGI).

I agree with you, but it sounds like your saying a high body count and more violence is a pro.

It isn’t necessarily a pro for me (at least not in a Star Wars film), but I think it’s a reason why a lot of fans find it more watchable than the other two prequels.

I know that, and I’ve never understood how “it’s the darkest of the three” makes it a better film.

But the darker ones are usually the more entertaining. All of the death, explosions and woe almost makes you forget the fact that the script could have been much better.

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swagmasta69 said:
Eh, don’t feel bad. I’ve only seen ROTS and TPM 3D in theaters.
(And TFA if you count it).

Why wouldn’t you?

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BECAUSE ITS GARBAGE NOT A MOVIE JEEZ TYPICAL OF SOMEONE WHO THINKS ESB IS BETTER THAN ROTS

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swagmasta69 said:

I see what you mean, but I think it’s just a generational thing. Even knowing of the extensive CGI use in the PT, I actually find Coruscant to be more interesting and immersive than any OT location, so I guess one of the many reasons I enjoy the prequels more than a lot of this board is because the special effects used don’t mess with my suspension of disbelief.
I did grow up in the “video game generation”, after all.
I watched TPM all the time as a child and when AOTC came out on VHS I watched that a ton too.
I was raised on those and the unaltered OT VHS trilogy and I actually enjoyed the PT more as a child.
Of course, I now fully appreciate the OT, but seeing ROTS in theaters just completely blew my mind.
I’m rambling. I guess I’m saying nostalgia is strong- but I did go through a prequel hating phase (Plinkett and all that) and when I came out of that, I actually liked the prequels on what I percieve to be true, albiet flawed (though not nearly as flawed as people claim), vision.

I find the PT to be as good as the OT.

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I don’t know if I’d call it a generational thing. I was a child when the PT came out. I saw each in the theaters twice. I loved them then, and there’s still a part of me that loves them now. But, as I’ve matured, when I see them again now I can’t help but notice more and more faults. I’ve never gone through a prequel-hating phase and I have never watched the Plinked reviews. It is simple that when I watch all the Star Wars films now, the original three (and now TFA) are magical, yet grounded, pieces of filmmaking that I’ll never be tired of. But when I see the PT, it’s not the same way. The magic’s just not there. Aesthetically, it’s just too artificial - I can’t buy it anymore.

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I would say that Revenge of the Sith is better than Clones purely for the reason that it was darker and more violent. At least that made the time go by faster.

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Eh, I’ll always hate ROTS over the other prequels; no amount of darkness can ever make up for the shitty execution of Anakin’s fall, that sorry excuse for a Jedi Purge, and Padme’s continuity-violating death.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Eh, I’ll always hate ROTS over the other prequels; no amount of darkness can ever make up for the shitty execution of Anakin’s fall, that sorry excuse for a Jedi Purge, and Padme’s continuity-violating death.

Agreed!

My wife mentioned that Kylo Ren could end up being the Vader origin story she wanted and failed to get in the prequels.

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TV’s Frink said:

BECAUSE ITS GARBAGE NOT A MOVIE JEEZ TYPICAL OF SOMEONE WHO THINKS ESB IS BETTER THAN ROTS

Best post 2k16 10/10 made me laugh.

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This thread is the message board equivalent of The Jerry Springer Show.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Eh, I’ll always hate ROTS over the other prequels; no amount of darkness can ever make up for the shitty execution of Anakin’s fall, that sorry excuse for a Jedi Purge, and Padme’s continuity-violating death.

I think the reason ROTS was so awful was because AOTC was so inconsequential to the overall plot of the PT. Had it perhaps painted Anakin as a noble Jedi who was gradually slipping over to the dark side then ROTS wouldn’t have seemed so rushed and stupid. I can see why you hate more than the other two, I just think that AOTC (and TPM also) are to blame for the disastrous storytelling in ROTS.

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  1. Empire Strikes Back (10/10)
  2. A New Hope (9/10)
  3. Return Of the Jedi (8.5/10)
  4. The Force Awakens (7/10)
  5. Revenge of the Sith (6/10)
  6. The Phantom Menace (5/10)
  7. Attack of the Clones (3/10)
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Saw TFA for the third time.

  1. Star Wars
  2. Empire Strikes Backs
  3. ROTJ
  4. TFA…after my third viewing, the gap between ROTJ and TFA is widening a bit.

The future of the Franchise remains promising. TFA is basking in the glow of fans who were starved and managed to do enough to satiate them but it is not an achievement that will be difficult to surpass. It wont be long before TFA gets bumped down to 5th, then 6th etc for me personally. And when a film comes along that bumps ROTJ down, that’s when I’ll know that SW is truly back.

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Are we going to count Rogue One and other spin offs in these rankings?

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GlastoEls said:

Are we going to count Rogue One and other spin offs in these rankings?

Oh I’m counting on them to bolster the franchise going forward. There is a lot more freedom in the spin offs than the skywalker saga trilogy stories which are more strictly bound to rules.

I think there will be much more freedom and injection of different styles in the spin offs that allow directors to play to their own strengths. They will be good movies set in the Star Wars Galaxy rather than emulations of George Lucas’ original product which some may argue was a happy accident.

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swagmasta69 said:

  1. Star Wars
  2. Revenge of The Sith
  3. The Empire Strikes Back
  4. Attack of The Clones/The Phantom Menace/Return of The Jedi(with Victory Celebration)
  5. Return of The Jedi sans Victory Celebration
  6. The Special Edition OT
  7. The Force Awakens

That is a very interesting list. Would you mind sharing why you feel that way? I’m not being sarcastic, its just rare that somebody ranks the films like this, especially on this website.

Not enough people read the EU.

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I guess he ran off after the panning of his list. Poor guy.

Not enough people read the EU.

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Maybe he actually watched Revenge of the Sith again, and now he’s embarrassed.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

swagmasta69 said:

  1. Star Wars
  2. Revenge of The Sith
  3. The Empire Strikes Back
  4. Attack of The Clones/The Phantom Menace/Return of The Jedi(with Victory Celebration)
  5. Return of The Jedi sans Victory Celebration
  6. The Special Edition OT
  7. The Force Awakens

That is a very interesting list. Would you mind sharing why you feel that way? I’m not being sarcastic, its just rare that somebody ranks the films like this, especially on this website.

  1. Star Wars
    The best paced SW movie. Ends on an incredibly joyous note. It’s all already been said. It’s probably a perfect film.
  2. Revenge of The Sith.
    The opening long take with two brothers almost perfectly in sync, the sublime Padme’s Ruminations, Seeing everything from the previous two movies (in a way all five) brought full circle is incredible to behold, seeing Yoda rise up into the senate chamber while fighting Palpatine, seeing our two heroes finally fight (what hapoens when two force users put their hands close and push is actually something I had wondered for a long time), Obi Wan’s “I loved you” tears at the heartstrings, the closing sequences (Polis Massa, Vader donning the armor, finally seeing Alderaan after 28 years, Obi Wan talking with Yoda about Qui-Gon, Vader walking down the bridge of the Star Destroyer, Obi giving Luke to his Aunt and Uncle) is a jaw dropping segue into the Dark Times.
  3. The Empire Strikes Back
    After a shaky opening with the ridiculously impractical AT-AT’s we dive into some of the best moments of the saga. The Cloud City Luke-Vader fight ends with a bombshell, but my personal favorite moments in the film are the superb bit of acting with Leia sensing Luke as she’s leaving Cloud City, and Yoda’s quote “Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter”. A weakness of the film is that it doesn’t have as many moments that inspire childlike wonder as the other films.
  4. AOTC/TPM/ROTJ(with VC)
    All three films have just as high highs as the others, but the lows are a bit lower.
    The lows-
    TPM- JarJar’s antics in the four pronged climax really hurt the tone.
    AOTC- Some wonky CG and C-3P0’s antics hurt the tone.
    ROTJ- Incredibly awfully paced. They crammed a whole movie into the first act, and the rest of the movie ranges from crap (Ewoks defeating “an entire legion of my best troops”), to lazy (DS2), to the very highest point of the saga (everything with Luke from Luke and Vader on Endor to the ending shot).
    HOWEVER, Yub Nub is a garbage closer to a six (or even three) film epic saga.
    Victory Celebration gives the finale a truimphant feel to rival ANH’s medal ceremony.

see above
A good ending scene can make or break a film.

  1. SE OT
    More than any CGI or new scenes or alterations of that sort, I just can’t stand the new color timing.
  2. TFA
    Derivative, utterly imagination free piece of corporate dumbed down dreck.