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It’s a ruse. A misdirect. A lie.
Typical clone.
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 6
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I find Rian Johnson to be one of the best modern directors today. While Looper had some plot issues, the film itself was wonderfully crafted.
I have faith in him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGonkY3NR78
A lot of random speculations in this video, but he does raise some interesting questions.
He points out that Kylo leaves his helmet/mask on Starkiller base (and I doubt he wasted time going back to get it as the planet fell apart), and he said that his lightsaber got destroyed by Rey (I can’t remember this, but I’ve only seen TFA a few times). So what will Kylo’s mask and lightsaber look like in ep. VIII?
A lot of the concept art show Kylo with a much more obvious Vader-looking helmet, and some of the Knights of Ren that we’ve seen so far also have very Vader-looking helmets. So maybe he’ll look more like Vader in ep. VIII. He’s also wounded this time around, so he might have ample reason to keep it on for the majority of the film.
Also, if his lightsaber was destroyed, it makes sense that he’ll make a new one. Perhaps in ep. VIII it’ll be a lot more stable and normal looking (hopefully not weirder).
I also doubt that ep. VIII will take place long after TFA considering how it ended so abruptly, so it might be that Kylo still occupied with his training with Snoke, so maybe he won’t be seen quite as much as in TFA. We don’t know who Benecio del Toro is playing yet, but he has more or less confirmed that he’s a villain. It could be a small part of course, but considering how every villain from TFA survived it’d be weird if they threw in another one to clutter the film. I get the impression that Rian Johnson is a bit less “compulsively-nerdy” (so-to-speak) than Abrams is.
Any thoughts?
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and he said that his lightsaber got destroyed by Rey
This is the first time I read about someone else noticing this, too. It happens when Rey forces Kylo’s saber into the snow, immediatly after it is deactivated you see something fly away. Really hard to make it out, but most probably, it’s his saber.
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I think it could be interesting in episode 8 to see the parallels of Luke training Rey / Snoke training Kylo, Dark vs Light
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I think it could be interesting in episode 8 to see the parallels of Luke training Rey / Snoke training Kylo, Dark vs Light
I saw this idea pitched on Movie Fights and it would be great for the first act of the film to have. I think it would be better than Kylo and Rey just popping back up after their training.
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Something like this?
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I don’t think Kylo Ren will be redeemed anytime soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4D0wnze6ZI
I’m pretty sure some of us watched this video before TFA came out and now since it’s release there is one line that sticks out
@ 0:19 Kylo says “I’m immune to the light” which of course is a very different story from the scene in which Kylo is talking Vader’s burnt helmet about his call to the light and the Supreme Leader sensing it. Given that most of these lines showcased in the video appeares in the film (a couple are paraphrased) I feel the line I’m fixating on will appear in Episode VIII. It would make sense seeing as how Kylo Ren’s training should be complete at that time.
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I don’t think Poe really survived the crash. I think the Poe we after the crash is some sort of clone or something like that, sent by the First Order to spy on the resistance.
Wait what.
Good theory. I like it.
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Except the scene where Poe escapes the crash is in the novelization and Pablo Hidalgo tweeted (twote?) that extra scenes in the novel are canonical.
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extra scenes in the novel are canonical.
I wish the same were true of the ROTS novelization…and I wish that the ROTS novel was canon in it’s entirety.
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mistake
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and he said that his lightsaber got destroyed by Rey
This is the first time I read about someone else noticing this, too. It happens when Rey forces Kylo’s saber into the snow, immediatly after it is deactivated you see something fly away. Really hard to make it out, but most probably, it’s his saber.
I noticed this on first viewing actually, but always forget about it. Didn’t see “something fly away,” but Rey slams down with her lightsaber right on Kylo’s hilt and there’s a sound that makes it definitely seem like his saber has been destroyed.
It’ll be interesting to see if his V2 saber will be a different. I hope not too much so, I love how the saber perfectly reflected his character (but then, I guess his character will be a bit different next time around?).
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It’s likely that Kylo will be inheriting Vader’s lightsaber once he completes his training.
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Now, Vader’s lightsaber being retrieved from the exploded DSII would definitely need a good explanation. Doesn’t it fall down the ractor shaft when Luke cuts off Vader’s hand?
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So, Harrison Ford is back in Episode 8 as Han Solo : http://www.moviecastingcall.org/2016/01/star-wars-episode-viii-casting-for-extras-and-photo-doubles.html
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Now, Vader’s lightsaber being retrieved from the exploded DSII would definitely need a good explanation. Doesn’t it fall down the ractor shaft when Luke cuts off Vader’s hand?
It is about the same as Luke’s lightsabre falling into gas giant.
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Now, Vader’s lightsaber being retrieved from the exploded DSII would definitely need a good explanation. Doesn’t it fall down the ractor shaft when Luke cuts off Vader’s hand?
It is about the same as Luke’s lightsabre falling into gas giant.
Weeeell… It goes down a bit pit. We don’t know if there’s a hole at the bottom. It could have just been stuck down there and scavengers found it.
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Now, Vader’s lightsaber being retrieved from the exploded DSII would definitely need a good explanation. Doesn’t it fall down the ractor shaft when Luke cuts off Vader’s hand?
It is about the same as Luke’s lightsabre falling into gas giant.
I always assumed it just hit the bottom of that big air vent, or whatever it was. Just because Luke almost got sucked outside doesn’t mean the saber did the same thing. The old EU even had a story where it was retrieved by an Ughnaught.
As for Vader’s saber, some of the early TFA drafts had the wreckage of the Death Star II being explored. There’s artwork of someone exploring Palpatine’s throne room under water (suggesting that s lot of wreckage hit Endor or the planet it was orbiting.). Johnson may have borrowed from these unused ideas.
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Well, Luke being thrown out seemed more like bad luck (or good luck depending on how you see it) considering he was sucked into one tube first, then fell through a hatch that shrew him outside.
We don’t know where that first tube would have taken him.
Not to mention that SW architecture is well know for not making any logical sense, and being there more for the sake of plot, aesthetic, etc. Luke simply got sucked into that shaft because if he hadn’t there’d be no ROTJ. Plot-wise it makes sense, Luke decided to sacrifice himself rather than join Vader, but as luck or faith (the Force?) would have it he survived to fight another day/movie. And him ending up on the antenna was both a way to add even more suspense, as well as a clever way to get him out of the city and in a position that was more accessible to the Falcon.
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Well, Luke being thrown out seemed more like bad luck (or good luck depending on how you see it) considering he was sucked into one tube first, then fell through a hatch that shrew him outside.
We don’t know where that first tube would have taken him.
Not to mention that SW architecture is well know for not making any logical sense, and being there more for the sake of plot, aesthetic, etc. Luke simply got sucked into that shaft because if he hadn’t there’d be no ROTJ. Plot-wise it makes sense, Luke decided to sacrifice himself rather than join Vader, but as luck or faith (the Force?) would have it he survived to fight another day/movie. And him ending up on the antenna was both a way to add even more suspense, as well as a clever way to get him out of the city and in a position that was more accessible to the Falcon.
Don’t call things in ESB “illogical” and “being there for the sake of the plot” in order to justify stupidity in TFA. There is a completely logical and, from engineering perspective, feasible explanation for the particular thing in ESB (as I explained in that post). If anything, it is Anakin’s lightsabre being TFA that is “illogical” and “being there for the sake of the plot”. Admittedly “being there for the sake of the plot” is too generous anyway as it adds nothing to the plot. It just there for the sake of “playing the nostalgia card” and lack of originality.
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Well, Luke being thrown out seemed more like bad luck (or good luck depending on how you see it) considering he was sucked into one tube first, then fell through a hatch that shrew him outside.
We don’t know where that first tube would have taken him.
Not to mention that SW architecture is well know for not making any logical sense, and being there more for the sake of plot, aesthetic, etc. Luke simply got sucked into that shaft because if he hadn’t there’d be no ROTJ. Plot-wise it makes sense, Luke decided to sacrifice himself rather than join Vader, but as luck or faith (the Force?) would have it he survived to fight another day/movie. And him ending up on the antenna was both a way to add even more suspense, as well as a clever way to get him out of the city and in a position that was more accessible to the Falcon.Admittedly “being there for the sake of the plot” is too generous anyway as it adds nothing to the plot. It just there for the sake of “playing the nostalgia card” and lack of originality.
It gave Rey her first step into a larger world. Sure her connection to the force could have been “ignited” by some other catalyst but it wasn’t.
lack of originality
What the fuck does that even mean in this instance?
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Clearly Vader’s lightsaber could have fallen to a safe place.
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It gave Rey her first step into a larger world. Sure her connection to the force could have been “ignited” by some other catalyst but it wasn’t.
Why the f did it have to be Anakin’s lightsabre specifically to do that? Some other random lightsabre would be just as good to serve the story.
lack of originality
What the fuck does that even mean in this instance?
It mean exactly “lack of originality”. Why couldn’t they come up with some lightsabre from some owner not yet introduced? You know making something new? Something new? New? NEW?!?!?!
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