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Not even as a co-writer! I wish I could wish away his prequel writing!
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Direct film creative process and write story/scenes, yes. Direct actors and write dialogue, no.
There is no chance he is coming back anyway.
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"Star Wars Fans Petition For George Lucas To Come Back And Direct Episode IX" Discussion — Page 2
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Directing no, except for his framing skill (Kershner himself prised him for this, and he’s definitely better than “J.J. Closer-to-the-camera Abrams” in this regard), I’d like him to contribute to the plot, one way or another (unless he wants to turn Star Wars into a “soap opera”). I remember that in a very early interview he said he wanted each Star Wars’ episode to be directed by other directors, except for the first and last movie which he wanted to personally direct, but I doubt he’ll ever be back now.
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
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Disney wouldn’t hire him, not to mention he would not be willing to cooperate without having total control. After Star Wars ANH I he always wanted to be the executive producer.
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What if Lucas wrote and Lynch directed Episode IX and was given an unlimited budget and time? It would be awful but awfully epic.
Luke threw twice…maybe.
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I think I would be fine with the TFA scenario: let George write whatever he wants, ditch it and write something completely different. Is there a petition for that?
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I think I would be fine with the TFA scenario: let George write whatever he wants, ditch it and write something completely different. Is there a petition for that?
Well it might just be better than what it would be ditched for. I can’t help myself but to think that at least Lucas’ outline for TFA was light-years more original than what we got.
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In principle I wouldn’t have minded him having some input but seeing as they already diverged from his original plans it wouldn’t work…
That and he’s just not a very good director
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I think I would be fine with the TFA scenario: let George write whatever he wants, ditch it and write something completely different. Is there a petition for that?
Well it might just be better than what it would be ditched for. I can’t help myself but to think that at least Lucas’ outline for TFA was light-years more original than what we got.
Since when do we like our Star Wars original? Star Wars has always been pretty derivative. When it didn’t have the previous instalments to rip off, it ripped off Kurosawa and Flash Gordon. It was always the execution that was important. I agree that TFA may be borrowing a little too much from the previous films, but I appreciate that it does so really well. I read one review complimenting the cast and crew on taking a shitty premise and turning it into a pretty fun movie. And I kind of see that point. With GL you could at best have an alright premise turned into an utter embarasement.
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Since when do we like our Star Wars original? Star Wars has always been pretty derivative. When it didn’t have the previous instalments to rip off, it ripped off Kurosawa and Flash Gordon.
Taking a few story concepts, such as uptight princess rescue element really isn’t much of a Kurosawa rip-off. It is pretty much an element found in ever third fairytale.
Character such as Vader and Tarkin in my opinion relatively very unique. Not to mention all the other relatively unique stuff and concepts such as death star, the force, lightsabres, spaceship designs, stormtroopers designs, creatures, etc. I said “relatively” because one way or another you can find something similar somewhere and start a petty argument.
On the other hand, TFA directly copied stuff. They didn’t bother to come up with new designs/concepts. We still have the same TIE fighters, X-wings, stormtroopers, etc. We have a bad copy of death star. We have family member plot twist. Etc.
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Taking a few story concepts, such as uptight princess rescue element really isn’t much of a Kurosawa rip-off. It is pretty much an element found in ever third fairytale.
True. But the original SW jumped entire lines of dialogue and pretty much borrowed some characters from The Hidden Fortres, most notably the two droids who are an obvious copy of the two peasants in the original.
Character such as Vader and Tarkin in my opinion relatively very unique. Not to mention all the other relatively unique stuff and concepts such as death star, the force, lightsabres, spaceship designs, stormtroopers designs, creatures, etc. I said “relatively” because one way or another you can find something similar somewhere and start a petty argument.
You bet I could. It would be quite easy, really 😃
On the other hand, TFA directly copied stuff. They didn’t bother to come up with new designs/concepts. We still have the same TIE fighters, X-wings, stormtroopers, etc. We have a bad copy of death star. We have family member plot twist. Etc.
Oh but there is a lot of new designs. All the ships evolved for example. It is a huge flaw of the prequels that we don’t really see predecessors of the OT machinery. Instead there is a completely different set of designs altogether, that looks slicker than the vehicles that are supposed to be 20 years newer. Some nice creatures and sets as well.
I am not fond of the Starkiller, that really makes it feel almost as if they had a checklist of classic OT stuff that they needed to cram into this single film. On the other hand the familly subplot (wouldn’t call it “twist”) seemed quite well done to me and I am sure it will be fleshed out more in the next film.
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I do think Lucas is a pretty good director and a pretty good editor. He just isn’t good with communicating with other people, and not a very good writer.
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Trevorrow on the petition;
http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/01/collin-trevorrow-on-the-petition-to-bring-back-george-lucas-for-episode-ix-and-his-collaboration-with-rian-johnson.html
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.
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Basically, he didn’t answer about his personal opinions on the petition. Typical :\
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
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At first I thought “Why?” but after a couple of minutes I realised, for the sequel trilogy to be a “soft” reboot of the OT they would need the third movie to suck (general fan consensus, not my own opinion) and who better to make a Star Wars movie suck then George Luca$! They’ll also need George Luca$'s help when the trilogy is done, who else is as qualified as he is to run… err I mean Special Edition this latest trilogy into the ground.
On the topic of feeling / not feeling sorry for George Luca$ I’m in the latter category, he’s finally reaping what he’s been sewing since 1995! Payback’s a bitch ain’t it George!
Original Trilogy in Replica Technicolor Project
Star Wars PAL LaserDisc Project
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What if Lucas wrote and Lynch directed Episode IX and was given an unlimited budget and time? It would be awful but awfully epic.
No. Such a film would be worse than Inland Empire, and Lynch doesn’t need a second piece of dreck on his resume.
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What if Lucas wrote and Lynch directed Episode IX and was given an unlimited budget and time? It would be awful but awfully epic.
No. Such a film would be worse than Inland Empire, and Lynch doesn’t need a tenth piece of dreck on his resume.
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^Don’t make me swallow your soul …
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imperialscum said:
Taking a few story concepts, such as uptight princess rescue element really isn’t much of a Kurosawa rip-off. It is pretty much an element found in ever third fairytale.Character such as Vader and Tarkin in my opinion relatively very unique. Not to mention all the other relatively unique stuff and concepts such as death star, the force, lightsabres, spaceship designs, stormtroopers designs, creatures, etc. I said “relatively” because one way or another you can find something similar somewhere and start a petty argument.
On the other hand, TFA directly copied stuff.
Lucas also directly copied many other people. Often times more than just similarities. Some mentioned here may have been inspiration, others are direct lifts.
http://www.moongadget.com/origins/index.html
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imperialscum said:
Taking a few story concepts, such as uptight princess rescue element really isn’t much of a Kurosawa rip-off. It is pretty much an element found in ever third fairytale.Character such as Vader and Tarkin in my opinion relatively very unique. Not to mention all the other relatively unique stuff and concepts such as death star, the force, lightsabres, spaceship designs, stormtroopers designs, creatures, etc. I said “relatively” because one way or another you can find something similar somewhere and start a petty argument.
On the other hand, TFA directly copied stuff.
Lucas also directly copied many other people. Often times more than just similarities. Some mentioned here may have been inspiration, others are direct lifts.
http://www.moongadget.com/origins/index.html
You beat me to it! I was about to post that link.
Not to mention all the story elements from the first movie he repeated in the prequels and then what he didn’t repeat made no sense, oh and there is the fact that Jedi is pretty much just a remake of the first movie. I don’t think anything Lucas wrote would have been as good as what we got with the last movie, just because something is new doesn’t excuse the fact that it makes no sense and if I have to read a book or watch a cartoon that was made after the movie to even understand what the basic conflict was about, then the movie has failed as a movie because it didn’t tell it’s story.
I mean why was Vader even needed? The Jedi were taken out by either Palpatine or storm troopers, and all Anikin does is kill some kids and unarmed idiots. Palpatine didn’t need him and he wasn’t needed to move the plot forward so why do we spend three movies following this idiot around?
Just because an idea is new that does not make it good and if you have a problem with old ideas being reused then Star Wars isn’t the franchise for me I am sad to say.
My ratings for the Star Wars movies. EP1 4.5/10. Ep2 4.0/10. EP3 2.0/10. EP4 9.5/10. EP5 10/10 EP6 8.5/10 EP7 8.3/10.
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DrCrowTStarwarsreborn said:
Just because an idea is new that does not make it good and if you have a problem with old ideas being reused then Star Wars isn’t the franchise for me I am sad to say.
I agree. Original doesn’t automatically equal good. Lucas has proven time and again that he couldn’t really move past Empire. You’re also correct in pointing out that Return is just as similar to Star Wars as is The Force Awakens. I’m still at a loss as to why one film gets a pass and the other doesn’t. Particularly when the new one is so much better than Return.
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imperialscum said:
Taking a few story concepts, such as uptight princess rescue element really isn’t much of a Kurosawa rip-off. It is pretty much an element found in ever third fairytale.Character such as Vader and Tarkin in my opinion relatively very unique. Not to mention all the other relatively unique stuff and concepts such as death star, the force, lightsabres, spaceship designs, stormtroopers designs, creatures, etc. I said “relatively” because one way or another you can find something similar somewhere and start a petty argument.
On the other hand, TFA directly copied stuff.
Lucas also directly copied many other people. Often times more than just similarities. Some mentioned here may have been inspiration, others are direct lifts.
http://www.moongadget.com/origins/index.html
As I said, the world is so big that you can find something similar somewhere and start a petty argument. That is what this is. I am sure he wasn’t even aware of any of this. Especially French comics.
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Lucas has never hid the fact that he was directly influenced by a number of different sources for Star Wars. The original film was purposefully designed as a pastiche.