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Info Wanted: Unaltered Star Trek TOS in HD? does an HD version of the unaltered original Star Trek series even officially exist? — Page 2

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SilverWook said:

I’m not sure any version of TOS is airing on U.S. tv right now. I know TNG was running the SD versions of TNG last year when the channel was briefly unscrambled on my system. Maybe something will happen for the 50th anniversary? CBS seems to think streaming is where the money is now though.

Strange that. In the UK, CBS runs TOS Remastered in perpetuity on one of their FTA channels.

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pittrek said:
I live in a country where 99% of people have no idea what a laserdisc is.

You mean literally anywhere?

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SilverWook said:

I’m not sure any version of TOS is airing on U.S. tv right now. I know TNG was running the SD versions of TNG last year when the channel was briefly unscrambled on my system. Maybe something will happen for the 50th anniversary? CBS seems to think streaming is where the money is now though.

I think the original two episode DVD’s look pretty darn good upconverted. But I grew up watching well worn syndication prints on tv. 😉

I believe there’s at least one cable or satellite channel that does. My father in law was mentioning it to me.

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ElectricTriangle said:

MeTV still runs the original series.

They only show the remastered version though.

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Yes, whether in SD or HD, CBS is only “releasing” it’s “remastered” Star Trek to be shown – and I just confirmed this with a ME-TV episode (“remastered”!) compared to TrekCore's “vintage” DVD screencaps.

I’m really interested in the first hand-full of remastered episodes with CG effects test-rendered in 16:9 widescreen (for foreign [Japan] markets).
TrekMovie - 20061218 Video Of Trek Remastered In Widescreen
Apparently, those were “mistakenly” released (through iTunes & Xbox Live) and quickly removed.
Naked Time opening - ws shot mixed with standard shot (.mov)

BTW, anyone got’em? .

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SilverWook said:

I’m not sure any version of TOS is airing on U.S. tv right now. I know TNG was running the SD versions of TNG last year when the channel was briefly unscrambled on my system. Maybe something will happen for the 50th anniversary? CBS seems to think streaming is where the money is now though.

BBC America has been running TNG in HD recently.

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joefavs said:

BBC America has been running TNG in HD recently.

In fact … RIGHT NOW … it looks like they’re running a ST:TNG marathon (presently up to 3rd season)!
Quick! … and you may catch “Tin Man” (among the better of their episodes) … playing now!

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There was one episode on Netflix that had all of its CGI in 16:9, but I can’t remember which one it was. They also had one episode that was the original version but, again, I can’t remember which one it was.

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Scott M (Oldsmith) Film Score Monthly forum - Feb 1, 2015 said:

There’s a bit more. As I understand it, the newly-created effects shots in the 40th anniversary remastered were created in a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, which would be cropped for most presentations but not all. Apparently in Japan, where widescreen adoption in the home got much more traction earlier, non-widescreen material (requiring pillarboxing for older 4:3 material) is supposedly routinely cropped at the top and bottom of the frame, so that it fits a 1.85:1 display. … Anyway, I believe the Japanese release of TOS: Remastered is all 1.85:1, though I’m not sure …

Also, for whatever reason, apparently the versions of episodes of TOS:R available for download on XBox Live are (or were) a mix, with the new effects shots all in 1.85:1, while the original footage remains in its 4:3 ratio. Thus, people getting the episodes that way are / were able to see everything intended to be seen in either the original footage or the wider new effects shots. Supposedly, though, this itself was a mistake; it apparently was never intended for any one version to feature shifting aspect ratios like that, and it was always meant to be presented either in 4:3 (with the new footage cropped), or in 1.85:1 (with the old footage cropped), depending upon the regional preferences of a particular market. … for whatever reason, some individual episodes got presented this way on Netflix (!) - for a little while, one could watch “The Immunity Syndrome”, “Bread and Circuses” and “The Tholian Web” with aspect ratios shifting between 4:3 for the original footage and 16:9 for the new effects shots. Those versions have been replaced with the correct ones (with constant 4:3 aspect ratios).

At the same time, the episode “Obsession” was (and still is), for whatever reason, entirely the original version, without any of the new effects. I don’t know why they pulled and replaced those other three but not this one.

A quick look and I cannot find ST-TOS S1 HD-DVD “widescreen” set for Japan or any country. Maybe the widescreen was strictly broadcast (for the Japanese market).

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joefavs said:

…some years back the original Trek was given the Lucas treatment, and all the external space shots that were originally done with models were replaced with CGI.

We started watching TOS on Netflix a couple years ago, and I was thinking “Man, these planet effects look really good for a 60s TV show.”

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Wazzles said:

I’m not entirely sure it’s seamless. The color timing of the live action shots is much less saturated in the unaltered versions. Also, they only use the original mono audio.

I really have not noticed that, the only shots that were unrestored were the special effects shots and that was because they were too far gone to save.

As for the audio you can just switch to the new surround sound mix using the audio button on your remote and watch the original versions with the new audio mix that way.

I have to say that while there are places where I would have like to see a better restoration job done(More in line with what was done to old Doctor Who DvDs)so far I have been pretty happy with the Bluray releases of both TOS and TNG and I wish someone had been able to show this to Lucas and explain to him that this was all we want. I would still pay for the SEs if the GOUT was included the same way it is with the TOS Blurays.

I can’t speak for anyone else but that is all I ever wanted.

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I think I can be able to restore the original Star Trek episodes. 😕