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Anyone like the old star wars RPG's?

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Preferably the west end games versions? It would be kind of interesting to get a game going on here sometime, been years since I’ve played.

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I never played any of the games, but I have skimmed through a number of the books; pretty interesting stuff all around.

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I still have the revised and expanded 2nd edition of the WEG version, and the trilogy sourcebook. Would like to get more of the old sourcebooks for it.

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I’ve always been fascinated by the WEG books. I’ve read a few of them but have never found a group to play a game with.

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Just tried to join the rancor pit forums for the WEG games, but the admin’s creating you an account seems to be going pretty slowly, though I’m guessing due to the holidays or whatever. There are PbP games of it there.

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I haven’t actually played any of them but I’ve scourged the internet for PDF versions simply to read (especially the Sourcebooks). They’re pretty interesting as simply EU material. Many of the old EU writers like Zahn would even use them to “check his facts” within the SW universe.
I think they’re a great source for pre-PT SW canon.

Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.

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They’re literally the backbone of the EU. They’re the skeletal frame that the rest was built on top of.

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Only bit of “EU” that didn’t rely on the WEG game that I can think of is probably splinter of the mind’s eye.

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They’re literally the backbone of the EU. They’re the skeletal frame that the rest was built on top of.

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Tobar said:

They’re literally the backbone of the EU. They’re the skeletal frame that the rest was built on top of.

I personally prefer WEG to the EU. The EU often did dumb and silly things, but WEG usually made sense and stayed true to the spirit of the OOT.

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boredom3031 said:

Only bit of “EU” that didn’t rely on the WEG game that I can think of is probably splinter of the mind’s eye.

You’re forgetting The Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley, The Lando Calrissian Adventures by L. Neil Smith, and the Star Wars/Droids/Ewoks comics published by Marvel. 😛

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DuracellEnergizer said:

boredom3031 said:

Only bit of “EU” that didn’t rely on the WEG game that I can think of is probably splinter of the mind’s eye.

You’re forgetting The Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley, The Lando Calrissian Adventures by L. Neil Smith, and the Star Wars/Droids/Ewoks comics published by Marvel. 😛

Yeah forgot about those old marvel comics when I shouldn’t have, I need to start reading those again.

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As well as the newspaper strip that can be accessed through my signature. Sadly, most of the good early material was abandoned in favor of the EU. Which is why I didn’t bat an eye when it died. All of my favorite stories had been thrown out long before.

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WEG was the guardian of Star Wars lore. Before the dark times. Before KJA.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

boredom3031 said:

Only bit of “EU” that didn’t rely on the WEG game that I can think of is probably splinter of the mind’s eye.

You’re forgetting The Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley, The Lando Calrissian Adventures by L. Neil Smith, and the Star Wars/Droids/Ewoks comics published by Marvel. 😛

I’m pretty sure that the Brian Daley novels were still considered canon in the 90’s. I have a PDF copy of a WEG book called “Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook” from 1993. The Corporate Sector was almost exclusively in the Han Solo Adventures.

Also according to Wookieepedia most of the Marvel comics still counts as canon, although with a few tweaks here and there. Which suits me fine, as some of the early Marvel content is surprisingly good.

I really wish Wookieepedia had a pre-PT “Legends” section. It’s hard to keep track of all the old WEG Sourcebooks, and the Galaxy Guide books are mostly just over-glorified SW dictionaries.

Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.

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ZkinandBonez said:

I’m pretty sure that the Brian Daley novels were still considered canon in the 90’s. I have a PDF copy of a WEG book called “Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook” from 1993. The Corporate Sector was almost exclusively in the Han Solo Adventures.

Also according to Wookieepedia most of the Marvel comics still counts as canon, although with a few tweaks here and there. Which suits me fine, as some of the early Marvel content is surprisingly good.

I’m not saying that the Daley, Neil, Marvel, etc. books weren’t considered canon in the EU, just that they didn’t rely on the WEG books for info.

As an aside, though, I’ll just say I hate that the Marvel comics were later considered part of the EU; seeing those great stories forced into the EU’s unworthy joke of a continuity was extremely distasteful to me.

I really wish Wookieepedia had a pre-PT “Legends” section. It’s hard to keep track of all the old WEG Sourcebooks, and the Galaxy Guide books are mostly just over-glorified SW dictionaries.

Agreed. It’s annoying trying to find info on a particular person, place, or thing from the early EU only to find post-PT revisions mixed in with the old info.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m not saying that the Daley, Neil, Marvel, etc. books weren’t considered canon in the EU, just that they didn’t rely on the WEG books for info.

As an aside, though, I’ll just say I hate that the Marvel comics were later considered part of the EU; seeing those great stories forced into the EU’s unworthy joke of a continuity was extremely distasteful to me.

Ah, right.

However I feel like the old EU should be separated into two categories; pre-PT & post-PT. There were some silly stories at the beginning, but the truly nonsensical stuff, not to mention the retconning happened after Dark Horse had to make everything fit with the PT.

Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:
I really wish Wookieepedia had a pre-PT “Legends” section. It’s hard to keep track of all the old WEG Sourcebooks, and the Galaxy Guide books are mostly just over-glorified SW dictionaries.

Agreed. It’s annoying trying to find info on a particular person, place, or thing from the early EU only to find post-PT revisions mixed in with the old info.

If anyone were ta make a Pre-PT SW wiki I’d contribute to it. Also a lot of articles, such as those that merely summarize and old comic or novel could just be copy-pasted. It would just be nice to separate it from all the retconning.

Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

So far, the closest thing I’ve found to a pre-PT Wookieepedia has been this page:

http://deckplans.00sf.com/Main/Research.html

I’ve found it to be an invaluable resource in separating the proverbial wheat from the chaff.

Why are there bible quotes in the corner?

Well, either way, it seem like a nice little index of what’s mentioned where in the novels.

Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.

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While on the subject of videogames, just a distant-cousin off-topic shout-out to a game from a long time ago, on a computer by-now recycled

Quake 2 :: LM-CTF :: Cellblock 1138
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CENTER AREA ( connecting corridors )
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RED BASE ( prison control room) (and a blue one for Blue Base )
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FLAG ROOM ( Leia’s cell )
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Eh, we were talking the pen and paper game, but cool none the less. 😛

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Oops …

I was thinking [computer MMO] RPGs and their “strategy books” … like for “Knights of the Old Republic 2” (KotOR 2):

(I’ll note the "distant-cousin off topic" on my previous post.)

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Spaced Ranger said:

Oops …

I was thinking [computer MMO] RPGs and their “strategy books” … like for “Knights of the Old Republic 2” (KotOR 2):

(I’ll note the "distant-cousin off topic" on my previous post.)

On that game I’m usually evil enough to make darth vader envious, AND make him seem like a great humanitarian.