The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS ** — Page 23

It’s really hard to decide which is the worst Star Wars character in history now, Jar Jar or Phasma? At least Jar Jar was a genuine character, even if wildly inappropriate and hopelessly annoying. Even the Ewoks were cute and had their emotional little moments.

Phasma’s only purpose in the entire ******* film was to lower the shields for the resistance. That’s it. Just imagine an imperial officer whose only function was to lower the shields on Endor and say “you’re gonna regret this!”

towne32 said:

Also, did everyone else not get trailers? Was this them trying to make it like a 1977 experience? Were there trailers after the film? I was really surprised to have it start immediately after the lights went down.

You lucky SOB. We got 20 minutes of trailers at a 10:00 PM showing.

SilverWook said:
Aren’t you forgetting Phasma’s suspicion that Finn balked at carrying out orders set his decision to flee in motion?

That’s debatable. I thought it was more that Finn didn’t want to kill innocent people. Further backed up by Phasma saying they didn’t discipline him because it was his “first offense”.

I don’t remember if they said something like “first offense” or “no history”. If they said offense, then it would imply he had been found out. But really I don’t remember.

Either way, it would be more in line with his characterization that he ran away because he didn’t want to kill innocents as opposed to running away to save himself.

Yoda Is Your Father said:

Alderaan said:

It’s really hard to decide which is the worst Star Wars character in history now, Jar Jar or Phasma? At least Jar Jar was a genuine character, even if wildly inappropriate and hopelessly annoying. Even the Ewoks were cute and had their emotional little moments.

Phasma’s only purpose in the entire ******* film was to lower the shields for the resistance. That’s it. Just imagine an imperial officer whose only function was to lower the shields on Endor and say “you’re gonna regret this!”

I agree. She could have been so cool but they made her a useless patsy.

The cynical side of me believes she was only included in the marketing hype to highlight another female character.

I’d like to see her return in VIII, but if she does she’s been tainted with the lame brush. Any soldier/officer worth their salt would surely rather die defending the first order than let the base be destroyed.

And if she did indeed manage to get out of the trash compactor, and somehow escape the planet before it exploded, she should be renamed Captain Houdini.

It could be that they softened her character purposefully? Maybe seeing Finn defect affected her and she is heading down that same road and starting to question the First Order’s motives. That is why she put the shields down without much of a fight. Maybe we see her leave the First Order in the next film. Just an idea.

Yoda Is Your Father said:

PeakSine said:

Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker? I’m curious about your thoughts!

I hope not. Too obvious. Why can’t she be strong in the force without being a Skywalker?

I feel the other way. I’ll be a little let down if she ends up being anyone but Luke’s daughter. I think there is too much pointing in that direction for it to not be the case. It would also help to get rid of the silly idea presented in the prequels about the Jedi not being allowed to marry and have families.

Hal 9000 said:

MrToad883 said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but was the lightsaber ignition sound for anakin/lukes saber accurate to the OT? it sounded different to me

This annoyed me too. The first time Finn ignites it, it sounds like Vader’s saber to me. I was on alert for this after having replaced two saber sound effects for my Ep3 edit that were wrong. Then again, the DVD remaster has the ROTJ saber ignition used in ESB, so I’m not sure what they’re smoking.

I noticed the saber didn’t sound exactly the same too, not quite sure what was different about it. The blasters throughout the movie didn’t have the classic Star Wars sound either. I thought they sounded kind of like Star Trek weapons at times.

hydrospanner said:
It could be that they softened her character purposefully? Maybe seeing Finn defect affected her and she is heading down that same road and starting to question the First Order’s motives. That is why she put the shields down without much of a fight. Maybe we see her leave the First Order in the next film. Just an idea.

That’s going to be my new Star Wars motto from now on. There are no bad people in the world! Everyone is a good guy just waiting to be changed back to the good side.

Hal 9000 said:

MrToad883 said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but was the lightsaber ignition sound for anakin/lukes saber accurate to the OT? it sounded different to me

This annoyed me too. The first time Finn ignites it, it sounds like Vader’s saber to me. I was on alert for this after having replaced two saber sound effects for my Ep3 edit that were wrong. Then again, the DVD remaster has the ROTJ saber ignition used in ESB, so I’m not sure what they’re smoking.

Haha hal, something to fix in your future edit…

Where were Palpatine’s parents? I think it’s unfair that Palpatine didn’t have anyone try and get him back to the good side of the Force. At this rate I will be disappointed if General Leia doesn’t get Snoke into a therapy session that includes talk about boulangerie owners at the climax of the trilogy.

Alderaan said:

hydrospanner said:
It could be that they softened her character purposefully? Maybe seeing Finn defect affected her and she is heading down that same road and starting to question the First Order’s motives. That is why she put the shields down without much of a fight. Maybe we see her leave the First Order in the next film. Just an idea.

That’s going to be my new Star Wars motto from now on. There are no bad people in the world! Everyone is a good guy just waiting to be changed back to the good side.

Should everyone who is presented as a hero/villian always stay on that path? I don’t think having a character or two have a change of heart is necessarily a bad thing.

Well, that’s kind of my point. Everyone will now become a good guy. We’ll have an entire series where everyone is prequel Anakin, and Kylo, and Phasma who didn’t mean to do bad things. They are just misguided kids making mistakes and killing people because some bad emperor or bogeyman tricked them into doing it.