Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 213

StarWarsnewsnet.com have done a sort-of-review of the TFA novelization.
There’s a few interesting quotes (some of which which I’ve copy-pasted below), and a somewhat explanation of the politics of the new canon.

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2015/12/spoilers-want-a-few-more-hints-about-the-force-awakens-take-a-look-at-the-novelization.html

First of all, the Journal of the Whills is apparently canon again. Although how similar it will be to the EU has not been expanded upon yet.

This quote intrigued me;
In the novel, after he orders Hux to leave Starkiller Base, retrieve Kylo Ren, and come to him, Snoke says, “It appears that he may have been right about the girl.”

Apparently when Rey takes Anakin/Luke’s lightsaber away from Kylo with the Force on Starkiller base he says; “It is you.”
Not sure what to take from that.

There’s a lot to take from this article, and I probably missed several important points, but these were the ones that stood out for me.

This article did however confuse me about as to what have happened when in the new canon (e.g. the past 30 years). The guy writing the article mentioned that Kylo had turned to the Dark Side roughly 20 years before TFA. So how old is Kylo Ren then? I assumed that he was about Adam Driver’s age; so roughly 30. In Rey’s Force-flashback he was clearly somewhat of an adult, at least a teenager, when he killed Luke’s Jedi students. So he couldn’t have been 10 years old. Then again he could have turned earlier than we expected, joined the Knight of Ren, which as I mentioned earlier existed before he turned, and then come back and killed Luke’s students when he was older. Or it could have been a typo, or mis-reading of the novel of course. I’m going to have to read this book myself some time soon.

MJR80 said:

I had mixed feelings when I first learned of the Starkiller Base. I don’t know if this has been posted, but does anyone else think it was all a set-up by Snoke? Unless the New Order is completely stupid, it makes sense that this would be the thing to lure Luke out of hiding. In other words, Snoke isn’t above wasting resources, manpower, and Resistance systems and planets to track down one man. It seems like a Sith thing to do.

The way I interpreted it, Snoke achieved what he wanted within that time frame. “We will crush the Resistance.” His Starkiller base does just that, it destroys a significant amount of any mega power resistance against the First Order when it fired on all those Republic planets. Destroying the Republic helps make the path to Luke easier since Luke will have little aid from outside forces if such outside forces, like the Republic, decided defend Luke from the First Order. Of course, we still have the small branch of the Resistance around, but to Snoke, they’re small beans. It would be easier to deal with them than a whole Republic armada.

Very cool full length Q&A with J.J. Abrams & Lawrence Kasdan at the DGA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlrfnT5KNGc

TK428 said:

Very cool full length Q&A with J.J. Abrams & Lawrence Kasdan at the DGA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlrfnT5KNGc

Thank you for that link! Enjoyed watching that 😃

I feel the opposite. I think TFA is brimming with so much potential that it’s been consuming my mind. For instance, I kept thinking about, if Rey was such a good pilot all along, why was she ‘stuck’ on Jakku? Then it struck me. Rey kept saying she stayed on Jakku, living a rather bleak life, only because she was waiting for her parents to come back! She feared if she left her home that she’d miss a chance to see them return, if ever. That’s so heartbreaking to think about. Usually, when I watch a film, if I linger on more about it, the more I view it less favorably. This has not been the case with TFA and want to see it more!

I’m pretty sure they weren’t Jawa, just some very similar small scavengers.

Btw, did anyone notice the head that slowly rose from the sand when BB-8 moved into the desert after Poe had been captured. I’m wondering if it was meant as a little reference to Bad Robot as it was kind of similar?

Harmy said:

Maybe they just renamed Coruscant, just like they renamed everything else that is otherwise exactly the same 😃 Hopefully, we’ll learn more about these things in The First Order Strikes Back 😉

No, the Hosnian system (and Hosnian Prime) are not Coruscant. I believe both some of the “Journey to Episode VII” stuff as well as the TFA novelization reveal that the seat of the Senate is on rotation, elected every so often, and that at the time, the Senate is at Hosnian Prime. But it is one of the Core Worlds, apparently. Odd, I know.

I’m generally not big on noevelizations, but I think I might have to give the TFA one a read.

StardustCamellia said:

Harmy said:

Maybe they just renamed Coruscant, just like they renamed everything else that is otherwise exactly the same 😃 Hopefully, we’ll learn more about these things in The First Order Strikes Back 😉

No, the Hosnian system (and Hosnian Prime) are not Coruscant.

Further proof here as well:

hydrospanner said:

RicOlie_2 said:

joefavs said:

^I noticed it but couldn’t get a good look at it either time I saw it because the shot was so damn dark. I’m hoping the blu ray is a little clearer.

If I’m thinking of the right alien, it looked just like the first one we see in the cantina scene in ANH–the one with the triangular head.

This guy?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hem_Dazon

That is what I thought too.

Nah, that’s not quite what it looked like, but it’s very similar. The head was much longer, and the eyes wider, as well as red rather than yellow. I also don’t think it was meant to be a sentient life form, but some form of animal. I could be wrong, but at least it’s more of a Jawa-type creature.

TavorX said:

StardustCamellia said:

Harmy said:

Maybe they just renamed Coruscant, just like they renamed everything else that is otherwise exactly the same 😃 Hopefully, we’ll learn more about these things in The First Order Strikes Back 😉

No, the Hosnian system (and Hosnian Prime) are not Coruscant.

Further proof here as well:

Hm. I hadn’t seen this yet. Most everything is about where it was on the NJO-series EU insert maps, as well as the Chronology full color books. But, since when are they putting the whole Anoat-Bespin-Hoth fustercluck into one system? Binary? Trinary? Hm.

The fact that you could see SKB’s shot from Takodana bugs me. It shouldn’t, Because Science Fantasy, but it does. It bugs me in a fundamentally wrong way, and is among my chief complaints about the movie. Sound in space I can dismiss, it’s an ‘audible sharpness’ thing. But the Starkiller beam left my brain hurting, to the point where I thought, initially, that Takodana and Hosnian Prime were in the same star system.

File under “how do magnets work?”. Thanks for sharing this image. Very interesting…

Haha, I loved Abrams comment about noticing so many fans were saying about not wanting anymore trailers. I’m thankful the trailers were very tight lipped though, but as the release came close, I was in that same group begging for no more trailers/TV clips, but couldn’t help myself!

So, you know how Chewbacca looks about 20 years younger in this movie than in Star Wars? Here’s my theory: We all know that the character of Chewbacca was originally inspired by a dog - a faithful furry companion - so maybe Han had to send the old Chewie to the farm and this is an all new Chewbacca 😉

Harmy said:

So, you know how Chewbacca looks about 20 years younger in this movie than in Star Wars? Here’s my theory: We all know that the character of Chewbacca was originally inspired by a dog - a faithful furry companion - so maybe Han had to send the old Chewie to the farm and this is an all new Chewbacca 😉

Somebody needs a wookiee hug!