Beber said:
Is there an actual dts theater mix to look for? It was 1994. The first dts movie, Jurassic Park, was released in 1993. It was rather new, and Léon is basically a low, let's say modest budget French movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110413/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec
You definitely got a point here. You're right, I didn't take that into account - probably, there won't be any DTS-CDs to rip it from, then. However, if it is not a theatrical DTS mix the hunt shall be for, then be it a theatrical AC3 mix. I think the actual audio codec is negligible since all are able to reproduce the original master quite accurately (some might disagree but I doubt I'd pass a blind test between PCM, and AC3/DTS at high bitrates). Unfortunately, we might be talking about the optical AC3 track on the 35mm film then which makes it much more difficult to ever rip that stuff.
bigrob said:
FYI The US BD doesn't have a 7.1 track. It's just standard DTS-MA 5.1, the German BD has a DTS-HR 7.1 track though
The US BD though is upsampled to 96Khz/24 bit though
I noticed the French BD has a 5.0 track that might be worth checking out
Many thanks for correcting me here - you're right and I'm unfortunately wrong. Only the German release seems to have that 7.1 mix which is quite typical for the label "Kinowelt". They already screwed up the German language track of "Terminator 2" and other movies as well so I'm pretty sure that this is at best a custom upmix and not the SDDS source, some would kill for to get their hands on. ;)
Since I blabbered about the different audio tracks of Léon, I thought that pictures are worth a thousand words:
Léon Center, Left, LFE, Right, Surround Left, Surround Right
Every screenshots shows the same channel (!) - from top to bottom: kk650's used DTS track (whatever this version is now), the German Blu-ray 5.1 DTS core, the Japanese 5.1 TrueHD track and finally the Japanese DVD 5.1 DTS track.
And to make it perfect, here are some numbers regarding the dynamic range, sorted by its channels in the same order:
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DR19 -0.38 dB -25.57 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_kk650_dts.C
DR19 -4.92 dB -28.82 dB 2:12:50 ?-leon_debd_dts.C
DR13 -7.71 dB -25.03 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_jpbd_thd.C
DR20 0.00 dB -26.11 dB 2:12:56 ?-leon_dvd_dts.C
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DR20 -0.71 dB -27.49 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_kk650_dts.L
DR18 -9.24 dB -33.50 dB 2:12:50 ?-leon_debd_dts.L
DR14 -12.56 dB -32.38 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_jpbd_thd.L
DR21 -6.81 dB -34.16 dB 2:12:56 ?-leon_dvd_dts.L
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DR23 -0.12 dB -31.16 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_kk650_dts.LFE
DR21 -25.78 dB -54.46 dB 2:12:50 ?-leon_debd_dts.LFE
DR0 -124.49 dB -1.#J dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_jpbd_thd.LFE
DR19 -6.36 dB -32.61 dB 2:12:56 ?-leon_dvd_dts.LFE
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DR21 0.00 dB -27.16 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_kk650_dts.R
DR17 -7.26 dB -32.29 dB 2:12:50 ?-leon_debd_dts.R
DR14 -11.91 dB -31.48 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_jpbd_thd.R
DR21 -5.79 dB -32.58 dB 2:12:56 ?-leon_dvd_dts.R
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DR26 -0.50 dB -34.64 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_kk650_dts.SL
DR18 -5.28 dB -30.14 dB 2:12:50 ?-leon_debd_dts.SL
DR15 -13.29 dB -34.48 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_jpbd_thd.SL
DR21 -10.27 dB -37.99 dB 2:12:56 ?-leon_dvd_dts.SL
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DR25 -1.71 dB -33.89 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_kk650_dts.SR
DR17 -7.20 dB -30.78 dB 2:12:50 ?-leon_debd_dts.SR
DR15 -13.29 dB -34.48 dB 2:12:53 ?-leon_jpbd_thd.SR
DR21 -10.30 dB -38.01 dB 2:12:56 ?-leon_dvd_dts.SR
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Although it's under debate how well the TT dynamic range meter works for whole movie tracks with a length of several hours, the bias is clear: the Japanese TrueHD Blu-ray is by far the weakest dynamic-wise.
When it comes to the "tinniness" of the surround channels during the "ring trick" scene, the kk650-version is - also by far - the worst, it really sounds like played through a rain barrel and as if they converted the track a thousand times.
But judge yourself, I provide the "Surround Left" - channel of this particular scene via FTP as well for comparison:
ftp://Leon:Mathilda@dynamic-toad.no-ip.biz