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Preserving DTS LaserDisc tracks, specifically Jurassic Park — Page 12

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SilverWook said:

As all the theatrical DTS preservations probably wouldn't have ever happened without that ancient Winamp plugin, I thought this was worth mentioning.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/20/technology/winamp/index.html

AOL is pulling the plug next month.

Sad to see it go but I am honored to have been able to use it for a variety of needs.  I will keep whatever old versions I have as one never knows when a need may arise.

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You've done it again!

That eBay listing is for DTS theater discs. This thread is about DTS tracks on laserdisc. (As is that thread.)

I think you were looking for the thread here which is for discussion about DTS tracks on all formats: LD, D-Theater and theater/cinema discs.

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*facepalm*

If we had a search function, this wouldn't keep happening you know. ;)

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Is there a place I can still download the JP DTS soundtrack?

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bevil said:

Is there a place I can still download the JP DTS soundtrack?

 What he said...  :D

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Yes there is over at the Spleen at least for the DST Cinema. If you want the laserdisc audio you would have to download Andrea's Jurassic Park [ruLes 1.0]  BD. Maybe Someone could upload the laserdisc audio only?

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Hello everyone,

after quite some time, I wanted to enjoy Jurassic Park once again, so I grabbed the MKV I created, containing the “official” 7.1 mix from the regular Blu-ray-release as well to be able to switch between the tracks for comparison. And I encountered some quite disturbing difference between the mixes.

First of all, I haven’t ruled out the possibility that something funky is going on with my playback system yet, however to make sure at least that it’s not due to any downmix-clipping as I’m listening to 4.1 only, I took the original file which I had losslessly converted to FLAC some time ago and listened to the center channel alone, separated by eac3to - same result:

At 30:40, Ian Malcolm starts with the sentence “John, the kind of control you’re attempting is not possible.” and at about 30:43, especially his “not possible” sounds (slightly) distorted - whereas in the 7.1 mix it doesn’t.

In general, Malcolm’s voice sounds somehow slightly crackling to my ears on the preserved 5.1 mix, also when they’re sitting on the table to discuss the whole idea of recreating dinosaurs.

Another oddity, however present on both mixes: at 35:26, right before Donald starts with “It’s hardly appropriate to start hurling accusations”, there is some weird scratching sound for a very short moment, which reminds me of an old vinyl. I wonder what that is and if it was intended that way. Maybe I missed something here.

Can anyone concur?

PS: @bevil/nafroe: I could provide you the file as well, either in DTS-HD MA or the (smaller) FLAC.

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MisterXDTV said:

Can Someone please send me an Invite for Myspleen, to download this amazing DTS track?

 

Thanks

This is not the place for this, sorry.

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Hi all, 1st post here. This forum and thread are very informative, thank you!

Others are probably more knowledgeable, however I'm looking for to gain karma points and if anyone has questions about PC-based digital audio/video editing/delay/encoding/multiplexing, PM me. Please note, I don't have a LD player, LD's, or knowledge of SPDIF or demodulators.

Also, I'm looking and still haven't found it, however it would be great to have a list of films (perhaps made since ~2000) that never had a DVD/HD-DVD/BR release with original (or very close to it) theatrical sound.

Cheers!

Edit: This thread (mentioned previously) has more details on DTS soundtracks not yet released.

Also, in case anyone missed this mentioned previously, the JP BR DTS may be good. http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?15135-Jurassic-Park-Blu-ray-amp-Original-Audio

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I wonder why apparently noone responded to my hints regarding the somehow odd distortions on JP Cinema DTS track.

Wasn't the cinematric DTS mix THE ONE and most important to be preserved? Isn't it worth to be investigated?

I'm a little surprised and confused that noone seems to care anymore too much about it. It's certainly not exactly vitally important but it's THE DTS track after all, isn't it?

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Endian, I watched the CAV LaserDisc of Jurassic Park last night. Good old PCM Lt/Rt audio. And yes, I noticed the distortions on some lines of dialogue. I'm glad to find out I wasn't the only one.

Perhaps those distortions were inherent to the mix. Not a miscalculation in the transfer, but dialogue distortion right in the master. Strange. Also Jurassic Park is a very hot film. It's loud and never lets go. Even with its imperfections, I prefer the 1994 CAV LaserDisc audio to the 2013 IMAX audio for the 3D version.

Also, can you by any chance hook me up with the theatrical far field DTSHDMA of JP? I really want to listen to it right now.

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DoomBot said:

Yes there is over at the Spleen at least for the DST Cinema. If you want the laserdisc audio you would have to download Andrea's Jurassic Park [ruLes 1.0]  BD. Maybe Someone could upload the laserdisc audio only?

 I've been unable to locate any copy that has the original DTS Cinema or laserdisc. Andrea;s Jurassic Park [rules 1.0] BD does not get me any usenet or torrent response. Is it still available?

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JP [ruLes] is still available on ms, but I encoded the DTS at 1536kbps instead 1509(1510)kbps, so it could be not compatible with some standalone BD players... you are warned...

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sega3dmm said:


Also, can you by any chance hook me up with the theatrical far field DTSHDMA of JP? I really want to listen to it right now.

billqs said:

I've been unable to locate any copy that has the original DTS Cinema or laserdisc. Andrea;s Jurassic Park [rules 1.0] BD does not get me any usenet or torrent response. Is it still available?

 

It is on the spleen.  If you are not a member there you need to go post a request for an invite in the proper thread.

 http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Post-in-this-thread-to-request-an-invite-to-MySpleenorg-you-MUST-read-the-first-post/topic/8592/

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Why were the rears dialed down on the MS release?

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dvdmike said:

Why were the rears dialed down on the MS release?

On what MS release? the JP release? if so I surely would like to know this before I grab, this would not be good, but I have seen this on other Cinema DTS files.

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The rears are loader then the other cinema release, so i'm not sure what dvdmike is talking about. Maybe the LD?

Meaning the Jurassic Park 35mm has louder audio.

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dark_jedi said:

dvdmike said:

Why were the rears dialed down on the MS release?

On what MS release? the JP release? if so I surely would like to know this before I grab, this would not be good, but I have seen this on other Cinema DTS files.

 Yep on JP sorry, the notes on the release say the rears were lowered in the mix 

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Right, but your talking about the first cinema dts release not the 35mm release.

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Yes the audio only release, sorry I thought this being the audio thread that was clear.

I should have been more detailed 

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Ah ok that's what i thought you were talking about. DJ wasn't sure which one you were talking about either. Glad we have that cleared up now. :)

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Haha, no problem Mike, enjoy the 4th!