Darth Id said:
TV's Frink said:
Why are we even talking about Nolan? Did he replace JJ and I missed it?
That's the latest from Landis, anyway.
Well played, sir.
generalfrevious said:
hairy_hen said:
I really want to see Jar Jar Abrams scratching his balls in 3D for two hours.
(It would be better than frevious' whining, anyway.)
I wouldnt whine so much if they took away the OUT, replaced it with the SE as the only version you can legally watch, and pile on three awful movies on top of that as well. Has anyone forgotten that the prequels came out 10-15 years ago?
Which part of WRONG THREAD don't you understand? My guess is THREAD.
SilverWook said:
^ Wrong thread?
Not really. Frevious' posts always make me want to drink myself into a lightheaded stupor.
generalfrevious said:
We might end up with just a weaker version of the OT.
I'd settle for that.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
SilverWook said:
^ Wrong thread?
Not really. Frevious' posts always make me want to drink myself into a lightheaded stupor.
What if TFA gives you a drinking problem?
Star Wars can never be good again; it's basically the Fourth Law of Thermodynamics now. And the corporate exploitation by Disney calling itself Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens is a perfect example of this. Look how we complain about the box art for every DVD release, or went hysterical when the score changed for the digital releases. The franchise has sucked hard for decades now, and one film directed by corporate lackey doing a third-rate Spielberg impression is not going to alter the course of a sinking ship. Does anyone think Poe Dameron or Finn are going to be as memorable as Luke & Han? BB8 is just the whole Jar Jar Binks marketing fas all over again, and Kylo Ren is just going to be another Darth Maul at best. We live in an age where the internet has permanently destroyed cinema, and with Marvel films starting to break down there is little hope this can meet anyone's expectations.
Can't you wait until the movie is actually out before unleashing the gloom and doom?
Only ten more weeks to go...
Where were you in '77?
TV's Frink said:
What if TFA gives you a drinking problem?
Won't happen. At most it'll give me indigestion and hives.
SilverWook said:
Can't you wait until the movie is actually out before unleashing the gloom and doom?
Only ten more weeks to go...
Corporate art does not apply in this case. I don't need to see the film to know it won't be good, because TFA is not an artistic vision, it was designed as a product to make money for a corporation that already has too much money. Even the PT, misguided as it was, could be considered an artistic vision, albeit a terrible one.
SilverWook said:
Can't you wait until the movie is actually out before unleashing the gloom and doom?
Only ten more weeks to go...
That's not how Star Wars fans operate. Myself included.
TV's Frink said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
SilverWook said:
^ Wrong thread?
Not really. Frevious' posts always make me want to drink myself into a lightheaded stupor.
What if TFA gives you a drinking problem?
Maybe drinking before watching TFA will cancel out any chance of a drinking problem arising.
generalfrevious said:
SilverWook said:
Can't you wait until the movie is actually out before unleashing the gloom and doom?
Only ten more weeks to go...
Corporate art does not apply in this case. I don't need to see the film to know it won't be good, because TFA is not an artistic vision, it was designed as a product to make money for a corporation that already has too much money. Even the PT, misguided as it was, could be considered an artistic vision, albeit a terrible one.
Because Lucas never made a buck off of slapping Star Wars on everything in sight.
Where were you in '77?
According to google translate when set to german, "mollig dick & sicher" means "Plump Overweight & safe"
...I don't feel like commenting on that any further...
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SilverWook said:
generalfrevious said:
SilverWook said:
Can't you wait until the movie is actually out before unleashing the gloom and doom?
Only ten more weeks to go...
Corporate art does not apply in this case. I don't need to see the film to know it won't be good, because TFA is not an artistic vision, it was designed as a product to make money for a corporation that already has too much money. Even the PT, misguided as it was, could be considered an artistic vision, albeit a terrible one.
Because Lucas never made a buck off of slapping Star Wars on everything in sight.
That's different; ANH wasn't some corporate product to exploit a recently acquired IP. It only became commercial because of a merchandising oversight, and didn't really kick into gear until ROTJ was released (Ewoks, remember them?). I agree, it went off the rails by the time the PT was released, but at least in the movies Lucas was trying to push the limits of CGI technology at the time. Where is Abrams's directorial vision in all this? He is just trying to copy the look of the OT and whitewash the failures of the PT. He can do nothing more than imitate the films of the past in order to exploit our nostalgia and sell more tickets; he is a monster that cares more about profits than art, and is contributing to the death of film as an art form. At least Lucas had some ambition, even though he lost his early talent along the way and became incompetent. In the end, I'd rather take an artistic failure than a good (but not great) blockbuster I won't care about a few months later.
You are such a downer.
Are you going to see the movie or not?
Where were you in '77?
SilverWook said:
You are such a downer.
Are you going to see the movie or not?
If I see the movie, I would contribute to the decline of the film industry, and allow Abrams to exploit the public further for corporate America. If I don't see it, I'd be missing out and feel bad about it. I might see it anyways to back up my claims.
I think I'm going to pull a Jack Torrance and imagine myself in a fully-stocked bar right now.
It's not my fault Disney is running the SW franchise into the ground even further than Lucas could ever imagine just a decade ago. Don't I have a right to be pessimistic, if corporations are destroying every single aspect of our lives? People like Abrams are exploiters, not artists. Does anyone understand that, or are they being paid under the table by Disney?
DuracellEnergizer said:
Mike O said:
If we can get what we'd all sell our souls to Crowley for, it'd be worth it.
Pfft. I'd never sell my soul to somebody with a tacky fashion sense like his.
Well, Lucifer is in the cage, so he's in charge now.
CatBus said:
Mike O said:
Who cares? All I want is an OOT 4K remaster. If it can get us that, it can be a two hours of J.J. Abrams scratching his balls in 3-D. If we can get what we'd all sell our souls to Crowley for, it'd be worth it.
Well, let's not get carried away. I think asking for something more realistic like a pet unicorn or world peace would be a good exchange for a crappy TFA too, without having to entertain complete fantasies like an official OOT 4K remaster.
Anything that happens to Star Wars will be worth it if we can get a remastered OOT in 4K.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
I think I'm going to pull a Jack Torrance and imagine myself in a fully-stocked bar right now.
Save a seat for me. And be sure to ask for Lloyd.
Where were you in '77?
generalfrevious said:
We might end up with just a weaker version of the OT.
I'd be fine with that. Even if it sucks, life will go on, people here will still be doing their thing.
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generalfrevious said:
It's not my fault Disney is running the SW franchise into the ground even further than Lucas could ever imagine just a decade ago. Don't I have a right to be pessimistic, if corporations are destroying every single aspect of our lives? People like Abrams are exploiters, not artists. Does anyone understand that, or are they being paid under the table by Disney?
[insert unsettling ambient music here]
generalfrevious said:
SilverWook said:
Can't you wait until the movie is actually out before unleashing the gloom and doom?
Only ten more weeks to go...
Corporate art does not apply in this case. I don't need to see the film to know it won't be good, because TFA is not an artistic vision, it was designed as a product to make money for a corporation that already has too much money. Even the PT, misguided as it was, could be considered an artistic vision, albeit a terrible one.
One could say the same about Toy Story 3, The Avengers, Lego Movie, Finding Nemo etc. I enjoyed them all.
I actually agree with much of what Frevious is sayin' [on this page]...
Just without the whole "the sky is falling" thing he has goin' on.
generalfrevious said:
SilverWook said:
generalfrevious said:
SilverWook said:
Can't you wait until the movie is actually out before unleashing the gloom and doom?
Only ten more weeks to go...
Corporate art does not apply in this case. I don't need to see the film to know it won't be good, because TFA is not an artistic vision, it was designed as a product to make money for a corporation that already has too much money. Even the PT, misguided as it was, could be considered an artistic vision, albeit a terrible one.
Because Lucas never made a buck off of slapping Star Wars on everything in sight.
That's different; ANH wasn't some corporate product to exploit a recently acquired IP. It only became commercial because of a merchandising oversight, and didn't really kick into gear until ROTJ was released (Ewoks, remember them?). I agree, it went off the rails by the time the PT was released, but at least in the movies Lucas was trying to push the limits of CGI technology at the time. Where is Abrams's directorial vision in all this? He is just trying to copy the look of the OT and whitewash the failures of the PT. He can do nothing more than imitate the films of the past in order to exploit our nostalgia and sell more tickets; he is a monster that cares more about profits than art, and is contributing to the death of film as an art form. At least Lucas had some ambition, even though he lost his early talent along the way and became incompetent. In the end, I'd rather take an artistic failure than a good (but not great) blockbuster I won't care about a few months later.
Why can't JJ want to do both? Why can't he want to make money (which just about everyone on the planet wants) and tell a good story that redeems the Star Wars franchise at the same time? Also him being a monster who only cares about profit doesn't add up because he initially neglected to do TFA because he didn't want to be the guy who ruined Star Wars....I just don't get where you're coming from.