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Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (* unfinished project *) — Page 45

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The marked improvement over the source never ceases to amaze me. Can't wait to see it in action!

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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Impressive how much grain was removed, excellent work on that!

But, the amount of detail lost is just a bit too much for me, and it makes the aliasing stand out worse. It also looks a bit waxy and unnatural. Almost like a coat of DNR.

My vote is still V12, but I would love to hear what others make of it. :)

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NeverarGreat said:

My download inevitably fails after the first 300MB or so, and has for every large file I've tried to download from Google Drive. Have you considered uploading to Mega? Those downloads seem to work for me at least.

 May want to try another browser. Chrome always works for me. Firefox should have no trouble either.

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Zyrother said:

NeverarGreat said:

My download inevitably fails after the first 300MB or so, and has for every large file I've tried to download from Google Drive. Have you considered uploading to Mega? Those downloads seem to work for me at least.

 May want to try another browser. Chrome always works for me. Firefox should have no trouble either.

I always use Firefox, haven't tried Chrome yet. Though I think it may just be an internet connection problem on my end.

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NeverarGreat said:

Zyrother said:

NeverarGreat said:

My download inevitably fails after the first 300MB or so, and has for every large file I've tried to download from Google Drive. Have you considered uploading to Mega? Those downloads seem to work for me at least.

 May want to try another browser. Chrome always works for me. Firefox should have no trouble either.

I always use Firefox, haven't tried Chrome yet. Though I think it may just be an internet connection problem on my end.

 Downloaded just fine with Jdownloader2.

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It seems slightly less detailed than before, but overall it seems to have the least jarring issues when watching it compared to previous versions.  I feel like I can just watch this one and enjoy it whereas with the other versions, stuff pops out that distracts me from the movie from time to time.  It would be cool to see your new V12 to have something to compare it to.  Great job!

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It looks good, for the most part! However, some haloing - particularly in the opening shot over Tatooine - is a little jarring. As for detail loss, I'll probably have to put a difference matte on it with the source or something; I'll confess that my eye is not trained for fine details.

I wonder how superresolution can treat motion smearing artifacts. Thinking about it, they'd probably stick out.

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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In a few days there will be another video sample for SRV14. I've found to enhance the detail, while keeping the grain reduction. 

Ps. Haven't had time to clean up the scripts for SRV12 & SRV13, but those will be posted in the next days also. 

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FrankT said:

I wonder how superresolution can treat motion smearing artifacts. Thinking about it, they'd probably stick out.

 I cleaned up the speeder shot a bit, so hopefully that one (the worst artifacts, IMO) will not look quite as terrible, at least.

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If you look back at earlier versions of the SR script, it really made the aliasing standout, and look even worse. But DrDre worked his magic and reduced the aliasing, and was able to keep the detail in later revisions.

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towne32 said:

FrankT said:

I wonder how superresolution can treat motion smearing artifacts. Thinking about it, they'd probably stick out.

 I cleaned up the speeder shot a bit, so hopefully that one (the worst artifacts, IMO) will not look quite as terrible, at least.

Did I miss anything? I have read reference about your version, but cannot find the source to it.

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Intruder said:

towne32 said:

FrankT said:

I wonder how superresolution can treat motion smearing artifacts. Thinking about it, they'd probably stick out.

 I cleaned up the speeder shot a bit, so hopefully that one (the worst artifacts, IMO) will not look quite as terrible, at least.

Did I miss anything? I have read reference about your version, but cannot find the source to it.

 It's not available. Just something I was working on for my own use while Dre was uploading his tests here. It could have used another pass, especially in the final 30 minutes of the film. But Dre needed to start encoding and wanted to use it. I hope that it doesn't disappoint, as he has spent forever in render time. I admit I became much more nervous after learning how long it would actually take to encode, as he can't simply whip out a new version... :). The sample posted today uses the cleanup, afaik. 

edit: I guess I should say what it is. Just manual dirt, scratch, and dust removal. Nothing automated. Glue removed only when an adjacent frame has aligned picture (i.e., nothing intricately rebuilt). 3 passes on the first 30mins. 2 on the next hour, 1 minimal pass (mostly due to the complexity/speed of the death star run) on the final 30 minutes. Knowing what I know now, it would have been more thorough and much more efficient in regards to time spent on it. Oh well, live and learn. :)

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Yes, that's what I wanted to know, thanks :)

I think it is/was a good idea.

Darth Id on ‘Why “Ben”?’:

And while we’re at it, we need to figure out why they kept calling Mark Hamill’s character “Luke Skywalker,” since it’s my subjective opinion that his name is actually Schnarzle Shnuzzle.  It just doesn’t make sense!

Damn you George Lucas for never explaining why they all keep calling Schnarzle “Luke”!

Damn You!!!

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DrDre said:

Here are three frames of the GOUT Star Wars, matched to a Technicolor IB print. The references came from a source that wishes to remain anonymous, and I cannot show the references themselves, but they are an exact match. The differences are interesting to say the least:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/142085

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/142087

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/142088

 I'm new here so maybe I shouldn't say anything but that first screenshot comparison corrected GOUT of Darth and his troopers on Tantive IV makes my eyes burn. Blown out whites and washed out picture...you destroy so much of the detail doing that. Why?

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For one reason only, because that's what the colors looked like in 1977. 

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DrDre said:

For one reason only, because that's what the colors looked like in 1977. 

Come on, Darth Vader is solid black with no detail left. You can't seriously say that looks right or good or even "what it looked like in '77" Not a chance, no way.

Also,that's not what Mike Verta's version looks like and he has better sources to judge by.

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confusedgambler said:

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For one reason only, because that's what the colors looked like in 1977. 

Come on, Darth Vader is solid black with no detail left. You can't seriously say that looks right or good or even "what it looked like in '77" Not a chance, no way.

Also,that's not what Mike Verta's version looks like and he has better sources to judge by.

Sorry to dissappoint you, but the reference is a scan of an unfaded Technicolor IB print, corrected to the print. Although there can be variation between prints, the colors are the way they are on the print. The reason detail is lost, is because the GOUT lacks the color depth to show the detail, but on the print it is definitely there. 

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It's looking great. To be honest I'm having a harder and harder time telling the difference between the versions, so I suppose it's just a matter of this being as far as you can push the GOUT. Impressive to say the least.

With the colors, I'm curious if you can kind of do a partial application of the color correction. I mean, if you had it in a paint program and you had the original frame as the base layer and the corrected frame as a layer above that, you would be able to do a half or less opacity on it and kind of get a partial correction to the color. Maybe by doing it in a lesser degree you could tune it to be closer to the original but without crushing the blacks and such? I know it's a matter of the GOUT just not having the quality to handle adjusting it back to the original since that color depth is just gone now.

Examples of what it would be if the color correction was applied at about 38% or so:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/142148
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/142150

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Cutedge said:

Examples of what it would be if the color correction was applied at about 38% or so:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/142148
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/142150

 Those look really great!  In my opinion, that approach gives a better / more pleasing end result than the raw versions that are overblown a bit on both ends.  I would take it just a touch further though to be closer to Dr Dre's but not too much further. 

Regarding V14, it's hard for me to judge 100% on the screen I am using because it is my color calibrated plasma TV which is great for color but not perfect for fine details.  However, I think V11 is still my favorite.  This screenshot for example seems to have a more pleasing look:  http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/130594

I found the same shot in V14 and most of the grain is gone making it look a bit less natural and at least having the illusion of less detail although there is probably the same amount roughly.  If I could have my way, I would just go with V11 and it would be interesting to see it with the not overblown but much more accurate color corrections using the method proposed by Cutedge.

Here is the short clip of V11 for comparison: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8_LYKyZDiajam0wVHZRblFrVjA/view?usp=sharing

Thanks DrDre for all of your great and hard work!