Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD** — Page 151

Hal 9000 said:

Who is and isn't planning on seeing the trailer once it's released?

I'm avoiding unofficial plot spoilers, but I'm going to watch the trailer to see if the movie will be worth to watch. I know movies and trailers are usually different, but this way I was able to stay away from a lot of bad ones :D

I'm probably going to see it, but no rush :D

By now I have mixed opinions about the new movie. Mainly:

PROS:

-it's a new Star Wars movie;

-possibly totally new main characters;

-it seems the plot may be less predictable then the EU was;

-possibly no PT references (no sithheads and microorganisms);

CONS:

-recurring cast (I'm ok if they're just cameos, but it seems that's not the case);

-the teasers gave me the impression it'll be just another Disney/Marvel action movie (lots of action and marketing, like ROTJ);

-their directing also felt very unprofessional to me, something fan-made (in a bad way);

-I don't feel Star Wars actually needs main sequels (or prequels);

Sevb32 said:

I wish you would explain in detail [...] what makes you qualified to judge what is or isn't professional?

I'm not qualified: I studied art at high school, not cinematography, so it's just my own opinion.

Sevb32 said:

I wish you would explain in detail how this new film looks unprofessional.

I was specifically talking about:

-this shot which is "non-static", like it was filmed by me and my friend with a cellphone (I also found the sudden guy's appearence from the frame's bottom unintentionally hilarious);

-the use of "teal & orange" and really poor contrast choices as seen here and here, which give away any sense of realism while making everything look fake and too shiny (just look a Captain Coffepot's helmet: great idea having him wear metal on camera, something it is rarely done and for a good reason). Shouldn't movies aim for realism (as much as possible)?

All of this may be changed for the final release, though (or by Virtualdub, later).

Sevb32 said:

Also a big drawing point to this movie is having the old cast back. I'm sure if they didn't have any cast members back there would be a lot of complaining about that too from other folks with opinions just as valid as yours. As Mark Hamill said, it's more about the new cast than it is them, they are there just to pass the torch. It makes sense to have them back.

I understand there a lot of different kind of fans. I personally wouldn't have complained not having the old cast back, because to me Star Wars is about the setting (the Force, the Galaxy, ...), not necessarily about the Skywalkers. Just my opinion, though.

P.S.: This shot is fine, but what the hell is he even doing? :D

Thank you, I always appreciate this kind of loosy replies. I wonder if you actually read what I wrote. What do YOU know, then? Tell me, tell me :D

This is why Hollywood can't take risks any more. Every movie is analyzed to death before it comes out ("it'll suck if X character is in it" or "X thing will happen so it's going to be the best movie ever!"). With the cost of producing a blockbuster movie, would you blame them from pandering as much as possible to the fans? This film will be guilty of it, to be sure. But pre-judging it on those merits is perpetuating the problem, if you as me. 

Some 'fans' are stupid, why set up such specific criteria for a film before it is even released? It doesn't make sense to me, that's why I've chosen to avoid spoilers and trailers going forward for the Force Awakens. Because I love Star Wars and want to experience a Star Wars movie as a theatrical experience (was born after the OT was released). I may not end up enjoying the movie, but I'll be glad to give it a chance. 

It's really sad that some people can't do something as simple as that.

DominicCobb said:

You know nothing, John Doom.

DominicCobb said:

John Doom said:

Thank you, I always appreciate this kind of loosy replies. I wonder if you actually read what I wrote. What do YOU know, then? Tell me, tell me :D

I know that I was making a (pretty solid) Game of Thrones joke, mostly in response to the fact that you referred to the chrome trooper as a he, when she is played by Gwendoline Christie (an actress on Game of Thrones).

This I know, I used a generic "he" on purpose for Captain Asthma Coffeepot (I thought we were writing in the "non spoiler thread"...?)

DominicCobb said:

Also ur opinions r dum. 

More seriously though the teal and orange tint that fans are bemoaning is barely even there and it's really just silly to judge a movie based on its trailer. If you don't want to see it, don't.

That's right: if I don't want to see it, I won't (but I will, anyway :D). Are you even reading? I was asked about my opinion and I said it. It's ok if you disagree with my statements, I'm not trying to force anybody to agree with me.

DominicCobb said:

[...] If you don't like the trailer fine, but trailer quality =/= film quality. The trailer got me more excited and that's all. I'm was looking forward to the movie and hoping it would be good before I saw the trailer. Still do.

Trailers are supposed to be done to let people know about a movie, what to expect from it, but as I said, I know they may not always represent the final product. I disliked what I saw so far, that's all but, who knows, maybe the movie will be good, maybe not, maybe they'll change it, I don't know (do you?).

I'm glad you're looking forward to the movie. I got my own opinion, just like you have one.

DominicCobb said:

A trailer should not be the basis for you judging whether a film's cinematography is professional or not. Well, it should I guess. The cinematography looks (very obviously) very professional. But if you were making this on your fcking iPhone it would look extremely unprofessional and completely different, despite what you may think.

As I said, it's just that single shot and the way color and contrast is used that I think (just my opinion) most of the people on this forum can also do on their own, maybe better. I'm not talking about the equipment: there are lots of indie movie done with cheap equipments which can look professional (say, "The Evil Dead") and yet many top-budget productions which look bland and/or unprofessional.

13las said:

This is why Hollywood can't take risks any more. Every movie is analyzed to death before it comes out ("it'll suck if X character is in it" or "X thing will happen so it's going to be the best movie ever!"). With the cost of producing a blockbuster movie, would you blame them from pandering as much as possible to the fans? This film will be guilty of it, to be sure. But pre-judging it on those merits is perpetuating the problem, if you as me. 

Some 'fans' are stupid, why set up such specific criteria for a film before it is even released? It doesn't make sense to me, that's why I've chosen to avoid spoilers and trailers going forward for the Force Awakens. Because I love Star Wars and want to experience a Star Wars movie as a theatrical experience (was born after the OT was released). I may not end up enjoying the movie, but I'll be glad to give it a chance. 

It's really sad that some people can't do something as simple as that.

Cheer up, people just want to discuss about something they love, that's exactly what Disney expect us to do right now. It's an opportunity for everyone, after all. Don't worry: every fan will give the movie a chance one way or another, me too, even if by now I have mixed opinions.

P.S.: If Hollywood need to rob a bank to make a movie, it's their fault: people I know ask for good stories, not bigger budgets, as far as I know.

Cheer up, people just want to discuss about something they love, that's exactly what Disney expect us to do right now. It's an opportunity for everyone, after all. Don't worry: every fan will give the movie a chance one way or another, me too, even if by now I have mixed opinions.

P.S.: If Hollywood need to rob a bank to make a movie, it's their fault: people I know ask for good stories, not bigger budgets, as far as I know.

I didn't mean to sound so negative. I have no problew with civil discussion. It's just when people have set criteria in their head that will make or break the movie for them beforehand. That's not how I think movies should work. Let the theatrical experience speak for itself.

And people may not be asking for bigger budgets but the reality is that movies are ridiculously expensive to produce, there's no getting around that.

It seems the soundtrack is being released December 18th:

http://www.disneymusicemporium.com/rgshop/star-wars-the-force-awakens/

^ Track 16 'Luke Skywalker's Funeral' sounds great!

Wow, I thought it was admirable they were keeping the novelization back until the movie was out, but the soundtrack even! I can't help but think it's mostly in vain with stuff like TFA Monopoly being released today. Still, it's a little less to try and avoid.

Ryan McAvoy said:

^ Track 16 'Luke Skywalker's *******' sounds great!

I thought this was the NON SPOILER THREAD! @#$%*!

^ Yes, this exactly. Oh how we laughed back in 1999.

*chuckles*

Hal 9000 said:

Wow, I thought it was admirable they were keeping the novelization back until the movie was out, but the soundtrack even! I can't help but think it's mostly in vain with stuff like TFA Monopoly being released today. Still, it's a little less to try and avoid.

 Well, part of it is because all CD releases were moved from tuesdays to fridays.