Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 153

SilverWook said:

Anchorhead said:

ZkinandBonez said:

...but it's a tad better than making a blatant reference to Don Quixote.

Don Quixote and Don Juan aren't the same person. Different stories and very different characters.

*edit*

I missed the Kahotay reference. Lame on both counts.

 The comics could get away with that sort of thing to a degree the movies can't. The whole of that particular storyline is completely lifted from Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven.

And I'll take Don-Wan Kihotay over Elan Sleazebaggano any day of the week. ;)

Well, at least it's an original name, sort of. I'm not really defending the PT names, all I'm saying is that I'm at least glad that the PT didn't have references to classical literature all over them. 
I mean could you imagine if Lucas' PT characters started making blatant references to Shakespeare? Like you said it was funny in the comic books as a joke, but it could never have worked in the films.
Although pointing out that the Eight for Aduba-3 storyline was taken from Seven Samurai is kind of funny, since ANH is more or less Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress in space. Some of the early drafts was quite literally just that. So who knows, maybe Kihotay would have made sense as a canon character back in the pre-PT days.
I think it's practically impossible to define what makes REAL SW stories anymore. There's just to much of it, and to many contradictions to make any sense of it.

(Also it's not like Sleazanbaggano was named in the film, plus we already had Porkins (named) and Droopy McCool (not named) in the OT.)

SilverWook said:

Elan is named in the credits. :)

Well, what do you know.
(I actually had to look the film up on YouTube to see if it was true. Also I haven't seen this film in roughly ten years.) 

ZkinandBonez said:

SilverWook said:

Elan is named in the credits. :)

Well, what do you know.
(I actually had to look the film up on YouTube to see if it was true. Also I haven't seen this film in roughly ten years.) 

 But not in the original credits!

timdiggerm said:

ZkinandBonez said:

SilverWook said:

Elan is named in the credits. :)

Well, what do you know.
(I actually had to look the film up on YouTube to see if it was true. Also I haven't seen this film in roughly ten years.) 

 But not in the original credits!

Sigh, did Lucas change this as well?
I really don't know, like I said I haven't seen this film in like ten years and I just looked the film up on YouTube and found this image. 
Is this not what appeared in theatres in 2002?

http://imgur.com/a/0fFkq

So, new Lego pics? 

TV's Frink said:

Can't answer the question, but this made me laugh:

http://deathsticks.org/soma.html

Especially that there is a "why" heading.

The "why" section was actually very convincing;
"the scene with Elan is one of those scenes that makes it wothwhile to tolerate Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman's flat acting. Matt Doran manages to infuse more life into a character that has a few seconds scene than some of the other major actors did in their much more important characters."

Can't disagree with that.

SS4DarthPayne said:

http://imgur.com/a/0fFkq

So, new Lego pics? 

"Unkar's thug"?
http://i.imgur.com/0Tzqmuy.jpg
I'm guessing we'll be seing a lot of criminals on Jakku. 
It'll be interesting to see if he's associated with Tasu Leech or the Kanjiklub gang that we saw mentioned earlier.

It also seems like Phasma and her troops will attack the Resistance base that we've seen in the trailer;
http://i.imgur.com/wcAjjRc.jpg

TV's Frink said:

If you think that scene is good, it's even better in the version where Obi accepts the offering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9jyoi0VS5Q

Mind altering drugs indeed, he hallucinated everything from Ric Ollie to Spock there. 
Either that or Deathsticks just really get's you in touch with the force. We already have Midichlorians, so why not? The PT's ridiculous enough as it is. 

Something else also just occurred to me; are Jedis allowed to drink? Because Obi-Wan was having a pretty funky looking drink in that scene. Heck, it's glowing.

I will say, it is a relief that all of the photos of the toys coming out, you don't see an army of lightsaber wielding characters. Maybe they are saving them for last?

I still don't know what to say about Luke. I know he's supposed to be the new Obi Wan, but he needn't be his doppelganger. Mark Hamill loses a considerable amount of weight, and they cover up his progress in a hundred pounds of cloth? Come on JJ, 60's the new 40.

Well at least we have confirmation that Finn will be using Anakin/Luke's lightsaber. 

I'm also personally quite happy to see that Abrams brought Struzan back. I know a lot of people associate him with the PT and special editions, but he did after all make SW posters for the re-releases back in the 80's, and regardless it's pretty awesome to see someone use a painted movie poster in 2015. It's just so much more interesting than the lazy photoshops we tend to get these days.

dan76 said:

That's an awful poster, the layout would be ok but whats he got Han Solo doing there? He's shrunk, waving his gun around like an OAP. Oh, and its teal and orange. Great.

My sentiments exactly.