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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 151

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Today some Force Awakens action figures got leaked online. The backs of the cards have so far only shown one new alien, but what interested me is that Luke in his Cloud City outfit is included in the line. There were previous mentions of Darth Vader alao being included in the line.

I'm taking this information to assume there will be a flashback to Cloud City in the movie and the lightsaber Luke lost there really is some key plotline. Not a good plot to pursue, IMO, but its looking more likely now.

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I really don't think that indicates a flashback. It probably just points to a new line of Hasbro toys with Episode 7 themed packaging. If I recall, for years now, any toys regardless of the movie had Darth Maul on the packaging. Same idea.

Also, using the 'build-another-model' gimmick allows them to sell rehashed models from previous lines that they already have the moulds for.

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It would be nice to at least get a poster, even if it's a teaser poster.

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brash_stryker said:

I really don't think that indicates a flashback. It probably just points to a new line of Hasbro toys with Episode 7 themed packaging. If I recall, for years now, any toys regardless of the movie had Darth Maul on the packaging. Same idea.

Also, using the 'build-another-model' gimmick allows them to sell rehashed models from previous lines that they already have the moulds for.

 You may be right.  Bespin Luke and Bespin Vader (among other OT characters) were released in the AOTC line with AOTC packaging.

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New  images of Vader and Bespin Luke just leaked. While the other figures carry the Force Awakens subtitle in their cards, Luke and Vader do not.

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Light costume... Dressed as a force ghost. That's the big secret, he's already dead!

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Or he died during the film and became a ghost force.  In the second teaser, it is implied that the guy putting his cyborg hand on R2 is Luke.  He is wearing a white long-sleeved shirt and a darker robe.  Unless if that is a flash back...

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Note the multiple still cameras. Action figure scan, or are they shooting a hologram sequence?

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Is it possible it could be a costume test?

The image of has been removed by request.  That was quick.

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unamochilla2 said:

The image of has been removed by request.  That was quick.

Well, obviously that means it's legit, if there was any doubt at all.

Still online, just elsewhere.

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I'm not sure about the costume either.  It's so light especially the hood.  Very elderly monk like but it really needs some darker shading to give it a real Jedi feel that we remember.

I will say one thing.  It looks like JJ is not costuming him like a Tattooine native.  If you remember from the prequels, all the Jedis were wearing Tattooine tunics like Ben.  It looked good but didn't make alot of sense.  This outfit sort of corrects that.

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I'm getting a very Knights of the Old Republic vibe from that costume. I assumed Luke's getup would be something darker and less billowy, but I can roll with this.

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Also people tend to forget that Luke's black outfit in ROTJ was supposed to represent his brush with the dark side. Of course him actually tuning evil was eventually written out, but Luke did have his dark side moment while fighting Vader in the end. 
As far as the lore is concerned I can't remember having ever read that it was supposed to be an actual Jedi outfit. I'm pretty sure it was just something he put together before meeting Jabba (even the pre-PT EU added a practical explanation for the outfit.)
And of course when we see Anakin (Sebastian Shaw) at the end of ROTJ he's wearing the same moisture farmer outfit that Obi-Wan wore in ANH. Not to mention that Yoda more or less wears the same outfit. I don't actually now if this is a pre- or post-PT thing, but the reasoning behind the Jedi both in the OT and PT wearing moisture farmer outfits, or rather just a casual outfit common among colonists and farmers, were because they were supposed to be ascetics; monks more or less. Hence the humble outfits.
And Lucas was quite adamant back in the pre-PT days that the Jedi order was basically just warrior Buddhist monks, even comparing them to Yogis once. 

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Bingowings said:

So is Tom Baker in this film or one of the others or in Rebels?

Anyone know?

 I would expect that it would be Rebels. Assuming Tom isn't just making stuff up, as he is known to do.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Also people tend to forget that Luke's black outfit in ROTJ was supposed to represent his brush with the dark side. Of course him actually tuning evil was eventually written out, but Luke did have his dark side moment while fighting Vader in the end. 
As far as the lore is concerned I can't remember having ever read that it was supposed to be an actual Jedi outfit. I'm pretty sure it was just something he put together before meeting Jabba (even the pre-PT EU added a practical explanation for the outfit.)
And of course when we see Anakin (Sebastian Shaw) at the end of ROTJ he's wearing the same moisture farmer outfit that Obi-Wan wore in ANH. Not to mention that Yoda more or less wears the same outfit. I don't actually now if this is a pre- or post-PT thing, but the reasoning behind the Jedi both in the OT and PT wearing moisture farmer outfits, or rather just a casual outfit common among colonists and farmers, were because they were supposed to be ascetics; monks more or less. Hence the humble outfits.
And Lucas was quite adamant back in the pre-PT days that the Jedi order was basically just warrior Buddhist monks, even comparing them to Yogis once. 

 I certainly took Luke's ROTJ outfit as a "Jedi uniform," and, given the context of the film, it seems we were were meant to. Yes, he resembles Vader, and there is thematic significance to that. But I always saw the primary, in-universe reason for that similarity being the simple fact that Vader was once a Jedi too; thus he continued to dress more or less like a Jedi, and continued to carry and use what Palpy disparagingly referred to as "a Jedi's weapon." I mean, why else would Luke make his first public appearance as a Jedi (that's how he introduced himself to Jabba) dressed in such a strikingly distinctive uniform? The fact that the outfit strongly resembles a priest's cassock also cemented the idea (in my mind at least) that this was indeed a "Jedi uniform." to boil it all down to "he wore black because he was turning toward the Dark Side" strikes me as overly simplistic, and pretty nonsensical from an in-universe standpoint (Luke: "I'm seriously thinking of turning to the Dark Side, so I'd better get myself some pretty funereal duds ASAP...").

As to Anakin's ghost wearing Tatooinian robes - well, Anakin was a Tatooinian. So, there's that.

Yoda's garb was fairly different from Anakin / Obi-Wan's - much more generic hobo / hermit clothing - very rudimentary. Also, I'm of the opinion that Yoda - being a Jedi master (not a Jedi Knight) - would not have worn the militaristic uniform of a Jedi Knight, nor would he have ever carried a lightsaber. That was also Lucas' opinion back in the OT days, as evidenced by the Rinzler books.

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