STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 1268

and one wonders why all those threads run over 1000 pages ... ;-)

We're pretty sure R2 was not kill, so no need to ask what if not kill.

Team Olie

It's not dead. It's just pining for the Harrisons.

doubleofive said:

R2-D2 was not a horta.

 He wasn't a Portuguese vegetable garden?

Still 14 days since an on-topic post.

This one shall be no different.

oh_riginal said:

Now you've done it. You've awoken... RONSTER!!!!

 No more errors that I care to see,

I'll give you this one  ... from 4th draft script (probably unfilmed) establishing shot of Bespin.

343. EXT MILLENNIUM FALCON - BESPIN SYSTEM
FULL SHOT - The powerful pirate starship over camera as it heads
toward the soft pink planet of Bespin. Planet is about 25 per
cent of frame - moons.

There is a bit more to it than just a ship flying towards a planet in this establishing shot perhaps akin to arriving at yavin in a new hope though it is suggestive of what Luke sees in the future due to the iris transition and Vader in the window of cloud city  where he steels Hans blaster, Hard to explain in words

 Here is the original Transition.

But going by the 4th draft script and taking into account the closing iris transition should it have been a bit more like this.

the symmetry between the cut scene and the reveal of Vader... Very interesting indeed :)

Sorry for being a pain but i noticed something about the altered bridge scene and had to mention it

I apologise if this has been mentioned as I have been away from this forum for quite a while.  Just catching up

Quote "Remember how Vader passed a black-clad Imperial officer as he exited down the steps from the bridge during his last appearance in the movie? - except the officer *wasn't* there in the previous shot? "

In last bridge scene Admiral Piett was also on the bridge and he was looking in fear at vader walking from left to right to the bridge stairs.

But the image looks like Admiral piett is on the right hand side of the bridge, so he cant look from left to right if he is on the right hand side.

justinvalorman said:

 This guy really Needa take a chill pill. 

I noticed something about a month a go and put it into practice today..

I added the full music cue for the snow speeders preparing to go in to battle.

Adding the full music cue reveals that potentially this sequence has a missing scene of around 2.5 seconds. Although there are no notes in the script to suggest what it would be, It may well have been planned to show the snow speeders actually launching out of echo base through the tunnel.

Not asking for a shot like this to be done but it is an interesting find and could well serve the restored music section you have planned for your special features supplement but if you also decided that it would be something cool to do considering you have a miniature rebel hanger on your hands I won't complain if you decide to have a stab at adding something :).

Anyway it's a rough and quick demonstration of the full cue with a blank for where I think the scene would go but if there is a missing scene, it really could have gone anywhere within this sequence of quick cuts and may have been another shot of people running about for all we know. But it is a discovery worth sharing even for curiosity sake. To be honest it's a big guess with very little evidence to back up anything particularly concrete of there being either a missing scene or what it might of been.

Anyway you can check the music cue here.

http://vimeo.com/132415547

yeah I am, and yep it does synch up with the gap removed this as you say could be misleading I never thought about that in terms of assembling the CD but I do believe they used the score notes and if it stated a rest then the gap is correct.

But the change of tempo (suddenly going double time) at the end of the R2-D2 scene does not feel right. And more so the big piano beats looking at the ice plain landscape also make even less sense.

the double time kicking in on the shots of people running about just seems to reflect what is going on, on the screen but then this gap we are talking about shifts to a part somewhere where the snow speeders are preparing to launch without actually showing them Launch.

I probably just want to believe there was some kind of storyboard card on the screen for that bit when it was scored where they are preparing to go out of the base I wish I could prove it, but I seriously know I cannot. But this is what I think John Williams intended, and I have given you my take on it.

I also think it's a bit naughty to not observe pauses in the music just because there is no footage to compliment it. That is the best thing about the unused music what ever interpretation people have of it. It is still a wonderful and fascinating thing :)

I don't think that big piano riff would be heard at all until we actually witness the first shot of the hulking AT-AT (through Binoculars). There is no way this music is intended for anything other than the first time we see it and absolutely none of the lead up to that point. That may mean excising a couple of bars as they are repeated and placeholders only. I have not checked but I would be surprised if the first note of the piano riff and the AT-AT foot stomping down did not match the change to double time when we are in the hanger. I will check this later on.

thanks for the response adywan.

that picture of Piett looks very sharp and nice.

fishmanlee said:

I can confirm that Adywan is correct (the sheet music indicates this overlap)

http://vimeo.com/132634296

The first note of the piano riff lines up exactly with the foot coming down and the double time transition to the Hanger.

I have exactly the same rhythm as what is displayed in the youtube clip as in the beats are exactly the same except when you observe the change to double time at the correct point and take into account the pause you get this result.

Why would they not record it as one whole piece of music with the piano riff as you have displayed it in the youtube clip then if there was not meant to be a pause?

That is the real big question on this and it's not about calling right or wrong but It just don't feel right I am sorry. The only possible excuse I can give for excising the first few bars of the piano riff are that they were a lead in specifically for the percussionists and were played in mind of them being edited out. As the percussion in this part is actually very complicated. Agree or disagree with me or agree or disagree with the actual recordings and sheet music too we have been given. The whole thing that has me in disagreement about this particular clip is that the pause works so incredibly well and it was how it was recorded, so this is what really has me scratching my head about that particular point.

And the change to double time at the end of the R2-D2 scene rather than it actually changing to double time when we actually transition to the very busy hanger. The Hanger shots are all quick cuts specifically cut that way to be in double time to match the music the R2-D2 scene is not.

You have my final take on it, If you disagree with it I don't have a problem with that.