Info Wanted: a good preservation of 'From Star Wars to Jedi, The Making of a Saga'? — Page 2

poita said:

I have a sheetload of LDs to capture, but no way of uploading, so if there are any Aussies, please PM me :)

Did you ever find someone?

Nope.

I get the feeling no-one really cares much about LD based stuff any more.

poita said:

I get the feeling no-one really cares much about LD based stuff any more.

I do! I know several others who still do as well.

How big of an HDD would you need to hold every LD you have captured and plan to capture?

4TB.

I have a shitload of LDs.

I think I have every Star Wars LD release, including a weird PAL master disc, The Keep, multiple THX1138s, Blade Runner in various versions, the SE discs, TPM, a bunch of Disney discs, I'll have to check and make a list.

But just the SW stuff and Blade Runner and THX would pretty much fill a drive.

I also have the OT on VHD discs, as well as Jaws 3D and a bunch of other VHD titles.

poita said:

I get the feeling no-one really cares much about LD based stuff any more.

 Nah, I think it's one of the two:

1. Very few people on OT.com are from Australia

2. No one has a fast connection in Australia :D

I'll ask around, maybe something will come out of it.

I found some Australian dude who said that he's working in a large corporation with international connection, and they only get ~90 mbps on a very expensive link. Consumer grade connections are supposedly much worse than that, especially when uploading.

If he's saying the truth (and I really can't see the reason for him to lie), we're kind of screwed. I could probably get someone to upload, say, 25GB of a finished release, but if a single LD capture is something like 150GB or more, and 35mm reaching 17TB... That just can't be done.

There are two options: all the post-processing being done in Australia, or sending the hard drives back and forth.

Using FFmpeg, one can usually losslessly compress a 10-bit capture of a 2-hour-long LD down to ~50-60GiB with FFV1.

I might have something.

There's this thing called AARNet, uni students in Australia have access to it. Apparently they can upload files relatively fast, and have 100GB of storage with an option of paying monthly $30 per terabyte. I found a guy willing to help, he's uploading a test file to see how fast you guys in USA can get it.

Captured it via a BlackMagicDesigns card and using a CrystallioII as the image processor, from a DiscLord VHD Player.

Silverwwook, not sure if there are any 3D VHD titles no on BD yet?

Yeah, we have the fastest ADSL2+ available here (24000/1000), and the upload speed is at best around 1000kbs, makes sending things of any size near impossible.

e.g. This is the result of the best case upload test. So, a GB of data takes about 3 hours to upload. So an 80GB LD capture takes 240 hours, or 10 days non-stop.

Upload TestResults

You uploaded 1 MB bytes in 9.69 seconds.

kbps: 866.7
KB/s: 108.34
Mbps: 0.87

SilverWook said:

poita said:

I think I have every Star Wars LD release, including a weird PAL master disc, The Keep, multiple THX1138s, Blade Runner in various versions, the SE discs, TPM, a bunch of Disney discs, I'll have to check and make a list.

But just the SW stuff and Blade Runner and THX would pretty much fill a drive.

I also have the OT on VHD discs, as well as Jaws 3D and a bunch of other VHD titles.

 Would be interesting to see some OT VHD screen shots to compare with LD. VHD is the only format I don't have a copy of Star Wars on.

Are there still some 3D titles on VHD that haven't showed up on Blu Ray yet?

 I had a VHD player and the resolution is almost up there with LD, if not, equal. I captured JAWS 3D and FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3 3D. It's an amazing format, but it's prone to many problems that LD doesn't have. 

I'd be interested in seeing how P&S SW looked, though.

Just curious, what is the source of this "official" version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Xa6CcShAI

Although is is true that the four making of  documentaries were released in the 1990's in japan on laserdisc remastered And laserdisc is an analog format i do believe they made new digital tape masters.  And they of course had digital audio.

Really does not matter if they were on d1 or d2 format however as they would never even be beyond SD quality.

Sure Lucasfilm could have tracked down 16mm prints or even tried to find the negatives and scan in HD  but using existing digital tape masters was much more useful in terms of cost.  Why they did not include the fourth making of film is hard to make heads or tails of.

I don't believe the conspiracy angle either.  About it showing Lucas being too candid about story over effects or that he changed his mind about things when making the prequels  or when it comes to the story of darth vader.

I believe the making of masters of the blu rays is the same master as the last one used in japan minus the subtitles.  Unless Lucasfilm went to an earlier non remasters not digital source like the US vhs tape master and digitized it which would cost more money and make zero sense.

Time to resurrect this thread... launch status check:

- Hi-end laserdisc player?
- Go!

- High-quality analog capture card?
- Go!

- High-quality cables?
- Go!

- High-quality capture hardware & software?
- Go!

- "From Star Wars to Jedi" NTSC Japanese laserdisc?
- Go!

- "From Star Wars to Jedi" NTSC US VHS tape?
- No go! I repeat, no go!!!

...at least, until Jetrell Fo will provide the latter, to get rid of the Japanese hardsubs... interested? Stay tuned on this thread!

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

- "From Star Wars to Jedi" NTSC US VHS tape?
- No go! I repeat, no go!!!

...at least, until Jetrell Fo will provide the latter, to get rid of the Japanese hardsubs... interested? Stay tuned on this thread!

Jetrell Fo is definitely providing the latter?

StarThoughts said:

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

- "From Star Wars to Jedi" NTSC US VHS tape?
- No go! I repeat, no go!!!

...at least, until Jetrell Fo will provide the latter, to get rid of the Japanese hardsubs... interested? Stay tuned on this thread!

Jetrell Fo is definitely providing the latter?

I have a sealed copy as well as a Panasonic AG-1980. I was planning on capturing it sometime soon.

My copy is an original (it came with the '92 letterbox box set with the hologram), but it isn't sealed. Nevertheless, if it would prove useful, I'd be glad to lend it out provided it was returned.

I'm currently capturing my pal laserdisc version.  Now that I'm looking through it, it seems they sporadically decided to add subtitles here and there.  Mostly, they pop up during stock video footage from the movies but occasionally parts of the documentary are also subtitled unfortunately.  The quality seems quite good though but I won't know until the capture is finished if there are blended fields or if progressive frames can be restored.  In any case, I'll post the raw file (no audio) to usenet probably this weekend for others to analyze.