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As mentioned previously, the comparison goes through at least 3 consecutive compressions, thus causing the detail loss.
We'll post the standalone video shortly.
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MrPib said:
poita said:
Woah, what happened here?
Apparently some vandals drew big red circles on the frames.
But seriously, that's strange. Is it the cleaning software that's at fault?
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Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
As mentioned previously, the comparison goes through at least 3 consecutive compressions, thus causing the detail loss.
We'll post the standalone video shortly.
Team Negative1
Mmmm yeah. See before I was pretty sure the clean up was being done by hand but lately it seems as though it's shifted to using off the shelf automation and that's highly prone to weird artifacting like in that Dagobah clip a while back.
If the team has shrunk over time and the ability to do clean up frame by frame has been lost. I think it would be best to just upload high quality grindhouse-esque versions of the films and let the community work on the clean up as a whole. The more eyes that are on this the less likely errors would slip through.
But of course, that's just based on speculation. A lot of the sample clips have looked spectacular so hopefully it's all being put through a strenuous QA process.
team_negative1 said:
As mentioned previously, the comparison goes through at least 3 consecutive compressions, thus causing the detail loss.
We'll post the standalone video shortly.
Team Negative1
Okay, I would have assumed that the compression would have affected both the before and after samples in much the same way, but I guess not.
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It seems to me that it's some kind of motion blurr or temporal denoising, unless it's the result of some kind of temporal compression, as not only is detail missing, but blurred detail has also been added. It's also not visible in other parts of the frame, which is odd. I guess Team Negative1 knows best, since they have access to the uncompressed source.
Tobar said:
I think it would be best to just upload high quality grindhouse-esque versions of the films and let the community work on the clean up as a whole.
That's not a good option, because it would either mean uploading/downloading terabytes of data or cleaning up a compressed material.
"Grindhouse" releases of the other two movies would be awesome though.
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Ok, we went back and rechecked the clip.
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1) There was an issue with the first part of the clip, a layer of cleanup was left in obscuring some detail. This has been fixed.
2) The comparison script, and method with all the compression is being changed.
This way, there won't be some many levels.
3) The clips are A/B checked against the orignals.
4) There is some light auto cleanup, but that's not what caused the problem.
5) This is just a first pass WIP, there is more checking going on, as these aren't final clips.
6) There will several people checking it before it goes final.
So in the end, we wouldn't worry too much about the comparison clips, there's some dropped frame going on to sync the scenes. Don't try to extrapolate too much from them.
We have at least 3 people working on that are experienced in it. These clips are just to show some of the progress being made.
I don't think we need to put all the disclaimers on every single video we post as being works in progress.
The only posted cleaned final clips, are the Intro, Crawl, and end credits.
Note, that some of the Orange marks accidentally got erased also.
Here's the fixed intro clip:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4gXRsA4EstzO0beDWq
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If you want a better idea of what our cleaned clips look like, check out the 2 minute preview in the 8mm version, or from the links in the posts above. (Disregard the compression).
We'll post the completed clip shortly.
Team Negative1
team_negative1 said:
I don't think we need to put all the disclaimers on every single video we post as being works in progress.
You don't. I don't think we all assume that the final is going to be blue and blurry. We know you're not going to release the final version until it looks right. But if you want feedback, the feedback is going to mention both the good and bad of those samples. Thanks for the continual updates, though. They are appreciated.
True. We appreciate all the feedback, it does help. And we do want you to feel like you a part of this project.
Here is the completed clip:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/kFjgphSJeegquzbeJ4b
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I love how you placed it in the 'animals' category on dailymotion ;)
Also, here's a quick curves adjustment to a screengrab of the video to see what colors can be pulled out: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127994
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Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
Great! But I think you went a bit too far, NeverarGreat
I think the colors are pretty spot on. I think the compression on the frame makes it looks like it needs more work, and the color correction reveals the compression artifacts, rather than create new artifacts.
I tried to get the hallway as close to neutral as possible, but perhaps it needs to go a bit warmer in the shadows: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/128125
In any case, -1 will have much more control with the full quality scans, I just wanted to get a rough idea of what was possible. It looks like the reds are boosted around the edges of the frame somewhat, but other than that, it's in pretty good shape, all things considered.
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Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
team_negative1 said:
For those that missed it, the 8mm Grindhouse version has a 2 and half minute preview of the LPP
# aviSynth
cSource= ffVideoSource(\
"team_negative1_presents_poitas_star_wars_super8mm_grindhouse_v1.mp4")\
.showFrameNumber(scroll=true)
c37662= trim(cSource, 37923, 38195)
c37935= trim(cSource, 38198, 38347)
c38086= trim(cSource, 38352, 38921) # FIXME
c38656= trim(cSource, 38921, 39703)
c39442= trim(cSource, 39706, 39910)
c39648= trim(cSource, 39911, 40098)
c39837= trim(cSource, 40099, 40158)
c39898= trim(cSource, 40159, 40254)
c39995= trim(cSource, 40255, 40368)
c40110= trim(cSource, 40369, 40588)
c40331= trim(cSource, 40589, 40613)
c40357= trim(cSource, 40614, 40654)
c40399= trim(cSource, 40655, 40756)
c40502= trim(cSource, 40757, 40813)
c40560= trim(cSource, 40814, 40830)
c40578= trim(cSource, 40831, 40841)
c40590= trim(cSource, 40842, 40859)
c40609= trim(cSource, 40860, 40875)
c40626= trim(cSource, 40876, 40897)
c40649= trim(cSource, 40898, 40913)
c40666= trim(cSource, 40914, 40925)
c40679= trim(cSource, 40926, 41006)
c40761= trim(cSource, 41007, 41176)
c40932= trim(cSource, 41177, 41260)
c41017= trim(cSource, 41261, 41354)
c41112= trim(cSource, 41355, 41375)
#41134
cSync = blankClip(cSource,37662)+ c37662\
+ c37935+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c38086+ c38656+ blankClip(cSource, 3)\
+ c39442+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c39648+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c39837+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c39898+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c39995+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40110+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40331+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40357+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40399+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40502+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40560+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40578+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40590+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40609+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40626+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40649+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40666+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40679+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40761+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c40932+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c41017+ blankClip(cSource, 1)\
+ c41112+ blankClip(cSource, 1)
return cSync#spline16Resize(640,360)
__END__
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NeverarGreat said:
-1
I knew it! :p
team_negative1 said:
True. I appreciate all the feedback, it does help. And I do want you to feel like you a part of this project.
Here is the completed clip:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/kFjgphSJeegquzbeJ4b
-later
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towne32 said:
You don't. I don't think we all assume that the final is going to be blue and blurry. We know you're not going to release the final version until it looks right.
You'd be surprised how many newbies come here to complain about issues that get explained on every other page.
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The preview is just that, a preview. We've never cared about GOUT compatibility, but duplicate frames won't be an issue either in the final version.
People on the blog will be the first to check things out and give feedback when the time comes.
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I have a two part question.
1) How do you sign your name in each post - do you type it out each time, do you copy/paste, or do you have some advanced algorithm developed?
2) Why doesn't your signature match your username?
I'll hang up and listen to your answers.
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I have a two part question.
1) How do you sign your name in each post - do you type it out each time, do you copy/paste, or do you have some advanced algorithm developed?
2) Why doesn't your signature match your username?
I'll hang up and listen to your answers.
You listen to sports radio, do you? Yuck-a-roo...
Here we are at the end of the movie, finally.
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Video clip :
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4zZ8ocYUjMfw4bgtyY
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I have a question, if you were to compare the 35 mm preservation to the 2011 bluray how would you rank it in terms of detail on a scale from 0-100 (the bluray being 100)?
Looks awesome! Colors are, of course, a bit off, but the print looks really cleaned up. Does this mean you're almost finished?
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No, we are still not done, but we do we have clips from these portions that are being completed.
We'll be updating the progress shortly.
Here is the completion of that segment:
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http://i.imgur.com/JE6ilqW.jpg
Videoclip:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k1luuknLHu58AubguC5
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