The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 263

Smithers said:

brimforge said:

So to throw another idea into the ring ...

some time ago I asked if anybody has read "the Star Wars" comic - seems there is a bit of the prophecy in this concept-based book - since the main source was at one point the "journal of the Whills", before it became the family saga of the Skywalkers.

anyway, in mentioned comic/backstory, "The Skywalker" is refered something like the "Dune messiah" - so we could tie up another thought some had here, to not name Anakin, and leaving his full name for the OT ...

bridging this to an idea how to name characters, because I find the name "Anakin" somewhat strange, in contrast to "(Ben) Obi-Wan Kenobi" - it would be better if Jedi had similar name-combinations or "titles" (not unlike the Sith, if one keeps "Darth" as this)

maybe "Anakin" could turn into "Ana-Kin" or "Ani-Kin" (other combinations like "Ana-Kheen"?)

 I bought "The Star Wars" at the EMP museum a little while back and I don't see anything useful in it to add history to the Jedi nor the Sith. The story is all over the place and you constantly meet new characters throughout the story. The only thing new that I learned was that the Jedi are called the "Jedi Bendu" I can look for more stuff but really I don't see anything that useful or inspirational

 Well that's because it's not supposed to add to the world that exists.  Like it doesn't take place in the existing star wars universe.  It is actually a direct adaptation of an earlier draft of the original Star Wars script.  It's not really supposed to teach you more about the Jedi or the Sith, it's just like an alternate story showing like "yeah this is what Star Wars could have been."

The flaws in the story are probably what spurred the rewrites ultimately bringing us to the story we all know and love today.

brimforge said:

So to throw another idea into the ring ...

some time ago I asked if anybody has read "the Star Wars" comic - seems there is a bit of the prophecy in this concept-based book - since the main source was at one point the "journal of the Whills", before it became the family saga of the Skywalkers.

anyway, in mentioned comic/backstory, "The Skywalker" is refered something like the "Dune messiah" - so we could tie up another thought some had here, to not name Anakin, and leaving his full name for the OT ...

bridging this to an idea how to name characters, because I find the name "Anakin" somewhat strange, in contrast to "(Ben) Obi-Wan Kenobi" - it would be better if Jedi had similar name-combinations or "titles" (not unlike the Sith, if one keeps "Darth" as this)

maybe "Anakin" could turn into "Ana-Kin" or "Ani-Kin" (other combinations like "Ana-Kheen"?)

 I like changing his name to "Ana-Kin" as a Jedi name or something.  Fits in with "Obi-Wan" or "Qui-Gon" or something.  It being a "Jedi name" gives a real reason behind him renouncing the name and hating it later in life other than just being like "I was given this sith name.  Guess now I never want to be referred to by the name I have been known by my entire life again."

hm, I thought there would be more information from the original "script" used in the pages - the idea is not to use it really as actual "backstory".

but maybe more background, that could be used to buff the PTs, especially concerning things like the "prophecy" ?

so it seems "Dawn of the Jedi" or the excellent "Tales of the Jedi" (and following "Sith Wars") would be better candidates to draw ideas from ...

Cool idea, to be sure.
The only issue I have is where does Maul go if he beats Qui-Gon?

I mean he's sent in to get Luke, isn't he?

So it looks like there will be a film set prior to ANH, with the continuing potential for more standalones in the future.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/19/8451743/star-wars-rogue-one-plot-description

So here is a radical and obvious idea for some PT edits - use these alternative films to displace/replace the current PT.

They won't follow the skywalker saga necessarily, but does that actually have ot be the focus of the saga? What if a heavily editted AOTC became Ep1 for instance, or maybe we even start with ROTS? Something to hope for anyway.

too bad the Falcon wasn't used in any Episode from the PTs ...

maybe your idea can come in later, when we got Episodes VII-IX ;-)

I was wondering a while back if a younger cleaner Millenium Falcon could replace the Royal Starship in TPM. It would take a tonne of rotoscoping obviously, but you could introduce some new characters who would have just docked there when the droids show up.

the best idea I read in one thread was, that maybe the old Falcon was in Anakin's (or another side-character's) possession ...

all-in-all a ton of new scenes would have to be made, to make that happen - somewhere in the future ... PT:R

I like the idea that it would just get sold off or dropped, like something unimportant and unremarkable (like the various naboo ships) so its less of a cameo.

That being said, when a large prequel project does come around (such as PT:R) it would be great to see some consistent ships used throughout the trilogy.

It would be nice to see the Falcon start off as a chrome saucer thing in the Naboo mode and then get progressively more grungy on the outside and lose the shag pile on the inside until it's the 'piece of junk' we all love as seen in ANH.

hehe, it could start off as a "luxury yacht" (shame Lando isn't old enough, he could fly in this "casino" from port to port) and between movies it changes the owner, who modifies the in- and outside ;-)

Jaitea made a really neat model of the McQuarrie Falcon Mk2.

If that was even further finessed and had all it's pipes and ports covered with polished panels and more streamling it would do the necessary nicely.

As a bit of fan service it works much, much better than having Threepio Luke's brother.

Use the falcon but really really streamline it and make it much more slick.   I don't think we need to see it become a grungy bucket of bolts gradually.  It should just be assumed that years of use and Han's "special modifications" made it that way.

I think seeing the same specific ship in the Prequels would be almost as ridiculous as seeing a child Han, or the existing scene of Chewbacca. Just pure fan service that shrinks the universe.

I'm all for a consistent "hero ship" throughout the PT, just not the falcon. 

brash_stryker said:

I think seeing the same specific ship in the Prequels would be almost as ridiculous as seeing a child Han, or the existing scene of Chewbacca. Just pure fan service that shrinks the universe.

I'm all for a consistent "hero ship" throughout the PT, just not the falcon. 

 This. I say fix the writing and characterization before even touching the special effects.

brash_stryker said:

I think seeing the same specific ship in the Prequels would be almost as ridiculous as seeing a child Han, or the existing scene of Chewbacca. Just pure fan service that shrinks the universe.

I'm all for a consistent "hero ship" throughout the PT, just not the falcon. 

 Why not then take the original design for the falcon (altered slightly and later used as the Tantive IV) and use that as the hero ship, calling it simply, "The Tantive"

Darth Lucas said:

brash_stryker said:

I think seeing the same specific ship in the Prequels would be almost as ridiculous as seeing a child Han, or the existing scene of Chewbacca. Just pure fan service that shrinks the universe.

I'm all for a consistent "hero ship" throughout the PT, just not the falcon. 

 Why not then take the original design for the falcon (altered slightly and later used as the Tantive IV) and use that as the hero ship, calling it simply, "The Tantive"

The original design of the Falcon was the Tantive only with the Falcon style cockpit instead of the "Hammerhead" design.

Something more along those lines (and in keeping with original McQuarrie concepts) would be welcome in my book.