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For some of you this may come as a shock, others might have guessed this and will be thinking "I KNEW IT!" when they hear this, and other still might think I'm lying to excuse my more outrageous behavior, but what I am about to say is true.

I also have autism. I have been diagnosed with autism at an early age. I find it very difficult to make friends in real life, am an adult picky eater, get overwhelmed by certain sensory input (certain noises, like one persons voice or people clapping their hands to a song with loud speaker going off, hurt my ears or drive me nuts), get really attached to certain interests and take a strong interest in learning about them, etc. Occasionally, change bothers me as well. If its a change that I know in advance, like school delays or spring break, the change won't bother me. If it happens suddenly, I have trouble handling it.

Like DrCrow, I have trouble communicating at times. By that I don't mean that I can't talk, but I do have trouble explaining myself. Sometimes I feel like this is my biggest weakness. On the other side of the coin, sometimes I can't tell if people are being serious or sarcastic, which may make me easier to fool than other people if I am not knowledgeable about a thing. Ironically, sometimes I worry that in an emergency, I will refuse to do something unless I know why I should do it, like I'm worried that I would make the wrong decision because I never got the chance to think about what I am going to do.

As you have probably guessed, my life has been a struggle. I had to have occupational and physical therapy when I was 6 or 7, and unlike many other kids, never spoke much before then. I was constantly bullied for my behavior, especially in daycare (which to this day I hate with a passion don't like thinking about). Despite all the negative experiences in my life, I have tried to at least have one. As I slowly get mature each year, I hope one day to control angry impulses so I can drive (well that and not always being aware of my surroundings; not even having a permit at my age is embarrassing, admittedly.), along with learning how to be more active in social interaction. For now, I wait.....

edit: Frink, I didn't see your post until after I posted mine. I didn't know you were a father, let alone a father of a child with aspergers. I hope she is doing well.

Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…

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Count me as among those on the spectrum.  I was evaluated as having tendencies that lean towards aspergers, but not enough to properly place me there.  Funnily enough, it's not in the DSM anymore - it's a perfectly cromulent term IMO.  I even went to a school designed to facilitate learning for people like me for a little while (I was in my last year there when I registered here).

DrCrow, Danfun, know that I will probably never truly empathize with the degree of your issues as I am pretty high-functioning.  However, I will also support you as much as possible here and certainly attempt to be more understanding of certain annoyances. 

Sarcasm can be the bane of my existence as well, even though I love it.  What generally hurts me the most is my lack of social awareness.  I do tend to go on tangents in conversations, and sometimes even have difficulty focusing when discussing something important to others if it's not immediately pressing to me.  Then I get anxious and often internally freak out for a few minutes, quieting down or (if I'm lucky) making sure I can get away from everyone without having a pity party.  It sucks and I imagine you two can relate on that one.

I, too, have trouble with change.  My parents are selling my childhood home, and I've been in denial.  It's only now when I go home and see all the boxes piled up that I realize this is actually happening.  

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Danfun128 said:

For some of you this may come as a shock, others might have guessed this and will be thinking "I KNEW IT!" when they hear this, and other still might think I'm lying to excuse my more outrageous behavior, but what I am about to say is true.

I also have autism. I have been diagnosed with autism at an early age. I find it very difficult to make friends in real life, am an adult picky eater, get overwhelmed by certain sensory input (certain noises, like one persons voice or people clapping their hands to a song with loud speaker going off, hurt my ears or drive me nuts), get really attached to certain interests and take a strong interest in learning about them, etc. Occasionally, change bothers me as well. If its a change that I know in advance, like school delays or spring break, the change won't bother me. If it happens suddenly, I have trouble handling it.

Like DrCrow, I have trouble communicating at times. By that I don't mean that I can't talk, but I do have trouble explaining myself. Sometimes I feel like this is my biggest weakness. On the other side of the coin, sometimes I can't tell if people are being serious or sarcastic, which may make me easier to fool than other people if I am not knowledgeable about a thing. Ironically, sometimes I worry that in an emergency, I will refuse to do something unless I know why I should do it, like I'm worried that I would make the wrong decision because I never got the chance to think about what I am going to do.

As you have probably guessed, my life has been a struggle. I had to have occupational and physical therapy when I was 6 or 7, and unlike many other kids, never spoke much before then. I was constantly bullied for my behavior, especially in daycare (which to this day I hate with a passion don't like thinking about). Despite all the negative experiences in my life, I have tried to at least have one. As I slowly get mature each year, I hope one day to control angry impulses so I can drive (well that and not always being aware of my surroundings; not even having a permit at my age is embarrassing, admittedly.), along with learning how to be more active in social interaction. For now, I wait.....

edit: Frink, I didn't see your post until after I posted mine. I didn't know you were a father, let alone a father of a child with aspergers. I hope she is doing well.

 I think you just described me to a tea, but I wasn't diagnosed until I was 20, so i went through a good portion of my life having no idea why I was different with most adults just thinking I was a trouble maker who refused to make friends.

I can relate to the sound thing, my dad has a huge collection of heavy metal music and while I can listen to other things loud for some reason when he turns that up too loud I can't focus and and I start having panic attacks.  I have no idea why since I went to a Weird Al concert and was fine and I can watch action movies with the sound turned up. I have no idea why this one thing sets me off.

Also for some reason i just can't stand stories where there is a really sad ending.  It has always tied up my insides and I have no idea why.  I am not just talking about movies or Tv shows where someone dies, that I can take if there is a reason for it but seeing characters end up sad and depressed or seeing things end without closure just really upsets me so I have had to learn to stop watching certain things when that starts to happen.  I used to think this had nothing to do with my Autism but I have talked to other people with it who have the same problem so i think it may have something to do with that as well.  I think it is why I just couldn't let the Mass Effect 3 ending go after everyone else stopped caring.

Well any way it's just great to talk to some people and see an article written by people who really get what it is like to have autism in the real world.

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Danfun128 said:


edit: Frink, I didn't see your post until after I posted mine. I didn't know you were a father, let alone a father of a child with aspergers. I hope she is doing well.

 She's doing reasonably well.  We were fortunate that her pediatrician clued us in that something was different with her when she was two, and by four she had an official diagnosis that opened up doors for therapy, support, etc.  She has progressed well enough in school that she can spend most of her time in a general ed classroom, with occasional extra support.

We also have a four year old neurotypical girl.  She's the opposite of her sister in pretty much every way.

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TV's Frink said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Yeah that is what I need to take meds for and why I can't drive a car.

It's also why I have trouble making myself understood and get really upset some times.

This article really does a good job of outlining what it is like.

As someone who has been told a few times I am "lucky" to be autistic because it makes me really smart and keeps my feelings from getting hurt, I like this article.

 My daughter is an aspie.  She's only seven, so we (and she) haven't had to deal with issues that you have to deal with, but they're coming....

What do the meds do for you?  And what challenges do you have in driving?  Is it sensory, or something else?

 Well glad she is getting help.

One of the things I take meds for is the fact that I just have trouble breaking focus and moving on to the next thing if I don't think i have done it perfectly.  I am also prone to panic attacks and I started having major mood swings when I was around 15.  The driving thing has to do with two things,  one I tend to get tunnel vision and only be able to focus on one thing when doing something like driving a car.  Two and this is related I have a hard time doing more then one thing at a time with my body.  I can just about do two different things at once with my hands and get by playing video games but if I have to use my feet, hands, and pay attention to the road all at once I just can't do it no matter what meds I am on.  I am going on 30 now and I have been trying two to six times a year since i was sixteen to drive a car but every time I try I end up freezing up and unable to control the car.

I really hope your daughter doesn't have to deal with any of these problems.

Take care.

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Sometimes (as the man Nute Gunray says) I "assume too much." I had no idea any of you were autistic. I feel like I learn something new about autism everyday, which I think is indicative of the larger problem: there are so many people without any knowledge of it.

If I ever insulted any of you in some way that hit a sensitive area, I sincerely apologize.

Is there, perhaps, a need for an autism thread? 

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TV's Frink said:

An autism thread is an excellent idea.

 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait!  Hold on there, bucko!  Please take this suggestion to the New Thread Thread and wait for the moderator of that thread to approve it, thank you very much! ;)

In all seriousness, I concur, or perhaps a thread on psychological/developmental disorders.  I might be able to provide a little expertise there as well. :)

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I would  be wary of disclosing any mental illnesses you might have on this (or any) forum.  Not going to name names, but I can clearly picture certain members, if you post anything they don't like, responding with things like "This coming from somebody with _______", and that would get really irritating.

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Well, I can see that.  On the other hand, I feel like there has kind of been an increase in sensitivity already towards those with difficulties, even just emotional struggles from the thread I already started for instance.  Sure, there will be jerks, but I think others would come to their defense.  I guess there would have to be the understanding that some jerks might bully, but if you want to seek support, you may choose to divulge your struggles.

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darth_ender said:

Well, I can see that.  On the other hand, I feel like there has kind of been an increase in sensitivity already towards those with difficulties, even just emotional struggles from the thread I already started for instance.  Sure, there will be jerks, but I think others would come to their defense.  I guess there would have to be the understanding that some jerks might bully, but if you want to seek support, you may choose to divulge your struggles.

 Yeah I am careful with what information I give out but I have found I do have an easier time getting along with people when I explain that I am autistic and how my brain works.  At first when I found out about it I spent a few years trying to hide it, but now I don't care who knows.

I don't go out of my way to tell people but if it comes up naturally then I have no problem with telling people.

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TV's Frink said:

Thank you for sharing.

 Well you are welcome.

I find that hearing from other people with autism about how they deal with it and that they have the same kind of thoughts that seem crazy to other people really helps.

Two of my shrinks have told me that they think the autism is what is behind my spelling mistakes.  You see I work best with things that have set rules like math and baking, but with spelling my brain tries to spell out the words by the rules I know and the way the words are said out loud.  The trouble is there is no standard set of rules that controls when the spelling of words changes from that pattern in English, so I just get confused no matter how many times I see or type the word.  It's why I have an easier time with Latin then I do with English, Latin is just much more logical in my mind.

Well I hope this helped and I am glad your daughter is getting help at an early age.

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DrCrowTStarwars said:

As someone who has had run ins with people who think I have a super power because of the way the media portrays people with autism and has a hard time communicating with people I have to say I really like this article.

http://www.cracked.com/article_21962_6-strange-truths-about-life-with-autism.html

 Bonus points for linking to cracked.com...!

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

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Yeah Cracked is a good site site when they are not getting all preachy.

I would be lying if I said I read the site as much as I used to, but they still do good stuff and I found this article to be very well written and it explains so much of how my brain works and why I some times have a hard time while rejecting the idea that my life isn't worth living so they did a great job with this one if you ask me.

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Is the site kind of slow and laggy for anyone else tonight?

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Where were you in '77?

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Yes, it seems to be slow lately

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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Possessed said:

I would  be wary of disclosing any mental illnesses you might have on this (or any) forum.  Not going to name names, but I can clearly picture certain members, if you post anything they don't like, responding with things like "This coming from somebody with _______", and that would get really irritating.

 I was gonna say that I don't think we have anyone around here who would act like that. But then as the reply page was loading, I thought of one who might.

Still, especially compared to most parts of the interwebs, we seem to have a community of decent folks.
"...Mostly."

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A katana, a pair of jackboots, an Indiana Jones-style fedora, a black pinstriped suit, and a Nazi-style leather long coat -- I want to own all these things.

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Does the OT forum still operate with little to no moderation?

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ray_afraid said:

Possessed said:

I would  be wary of disclosing any mental illnesses you might have on this (or any) forum.  Not going to name names, but I can clearly picture certain members, if you post anything they don't like, responding with things like "This coming from somebody with _______", and that would get really irritating.

 I was gonna say that I don't think we have anyone around here who would act like that. But then as the reply page was loading, I thought of one who might.

Still, especially compared to most parts of the interwebs, we seem to have a community of decent folks.
"...Mostly."

 The decent folks mostly come out on the OT forum, mostly.

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sean wookie said:

Does the OT forum still operate with little to no moderation?

 Off topic has no moderation, the rest of the forum has always had moderation.

Moderation is key, if you have a drinking problem you should check yourself in.

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Does THIS

A. Improve a crap song

B. Ruin a great song

C. All of the above

D. None of the above