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Stuck working at the office today, but at least no one else is around and I can jam some loud music. Today's obsession is Johnny Foreigner.
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imperialscum said:
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EyeShotFirst said:
Because my music tastes are so broad, I have developed an odd style that doesn't belong to a single genre, and I think it would be a crime to waste that in a cover band.
The same could be said about me. I primarily play metal, but with the attitude and fury of Stevie Ray Vaughan (he may have been blues, but he plays with more fury than metal. Metal's fury comes from primarily the thick instrumentation and the momentum of the songwriting, but I would say alot of metal bands actually play their instruments pretty tamely. Fast, but soft. I play metal riffs like SRV played blues riffs... played hard and floored. ) Also I solo quite alot like Stevie Ray Vaughan mixed with some more melodic classical shredding and occasionally the random-ish outbursts of furious notes of Slayer's Kerry King, all infused in to one. Suffice it to say I'm all over the place. I can actually carry a song too, which is a trait most local guitarists here seem to lack. Most of them only learn "tricks" or gimmicks, but when they play riffs or songs they just sound horrible.
Uuuh high and mighty, are we? And I was led to believe I was being the only one around here.
You're damn right I'm high and mighty about my guitar playing, I've worked hard on it and I'm good at it. Do I think it makes me more important or a better person in general in life? No, nor do I think it gives me any more value than anyone else. Everybody has talents, mine is music, and I don't think being proud of my accomplishments that I've worked for hours every day on makes me high and mighty. I mean if you can play better, then by all means I'm all ears. But like I said, it's a talent I have that I'm proud of, it doesn't make me any better than anybody else as a person. I'm sure there are things you are better than me at. Being condescending for one, I can never get it to be quite as transparent and stuck up as you can, so bravo to you for that.
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From late 2008 to about, oh, 2011 or so I was pretty obsessed with Alanis Morissette.
I can't say why I became obsessed with her, exactly, but it was pretty much kicked off when I heard her very first album almost back-to-back with her third, more popular album; the juxtaposition of silly teen pop with angry alternative rock must have intrigued me enough to want to hear how her musical evolution unfolded.
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I mean if you can play better, then by all means I'm all ears.
Well well, how are we supposed to measure that? Notes per second*? Music is not like voltage or force where you can say 2 volts is more than 1 volt or 2 newtons is more than 1 newton. It is an art.
* This a bonus mockery referencing SRV
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I'm sure there are things you are better than me at. Being condescending for one, I can never get it to be quite as transparent and stuck up as you can, so bravo to you for that.
Thank you.
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Gosh, could you guys lighten up a bit? What good does fighting on the internet do. I'm not concerned with who started it, I'm just curious as to why so much energy is wasted for something that achieves nothing.
I've been listening to a lot of softer 70's rock, because they don't seem to like to play it on the radio unless it was played through a Marshall stack. Horns seem to be forbidden on my local classic rock stations. Seems like they like to play the same handful of bands and neglect many others. I've almost become tired of Led Zeppelin, and I didn't think that was possible. I used to discover so much great music on the classic rock stations, but now it's like "I've heard that a million times" next song "Didn't you play this an hour ago?"
I've even been listening to some of the oddball bands like War, Steely Dan, and Kool and the Gang. Good bands full of musicians that all let the music carry them.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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I bought my wife Green Day's 21st Century Breakdown when it came out, and I just finally got around to listening to it in the past few weeks. Great stuff, almost as good as American Idiot.
IMO I would definitely say the standouts are Viva La Gloria and Murder City. Great, Great songs and of course somehow neither one is one of the 5 singles from the album.
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I will never get tired of Steely Dan's 'Aja'. One of my all time favorites.
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I agree. Good luck hearing anything besides their handful of rock hits on the radio these days though.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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imperialscum said:
Possessed said:
EyeShotFirst said:
Because my music tastes are so broad, I have developed an odd style that doesn't belong to a single genre, and I think it would be a crime to waste that in a cover band.
The same could be said about me. I primarily play metal, but with the attitude and fury of Stevie Ray Vaughan (he may have been blues, but he plays with more fury than metal. Metal's fury comes from primarily the thick instrumentation and the momentum of the songwriting, but I would say alot of metal bands actually play their instruments pretty tamely. Fast, but soft. I play metal riffs like SRV played blues riffs... played hard and floored. ) Also I solo quite alot like Stevie Ray Vaughan mixed with some more melodic classical shredding and occasionally the random-ish outbursts of furious notes of Slayer's Kerry King, all infused in to one. Suffice it to say I'm all over the place. I can actually carry a song too, which is a trait most local guitarists here seem to lack. Most of them only learn "tricks" or gimmicks, but when they play riffs or songs they just sound horrible.
Uuuh high and mighty, are we? And I was led to believe I was being the only one around here.
You're damn right I'm high and mighty about my guitar playing, I've worked hard on it and I'm good at it.
Having listened to you play, I must agree: you are extremely talented...!
I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton
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I have always enjoyed New Order...
I would consider it proper for Ceremony to be played at my funeral...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pr6SxJb-Dw
Whenever I am in a bad way I can rely on those soothing tones and discursive lyrics to bring me around...
Temptation manages to provide just the right depth of feeling to correspond with the sense of melancholy with which I am most familiar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUjUTG3hwyQ
...and Here To Stay is just perfect regardless of mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQwhQ4ytVFc
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“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”
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I am a huge Creedence Clearwater Revival fan.
I picked up the guitar because of CCR. I heard the song "Up Around The Bend" on the radio when I was a kid, and I wanted to hear more. So I got their Chronicle Greatest Hits album, and still couldn't get enough. So I got a big box set. I think trying to play along with John Fogerty is probably the biggest reason I didn't give up. Now I still can't help but throw out a Fogerty riff while messing around on the guitar.
I still don't think Fogerty gets enough respect as a player. Everybody holds up Page and Hendrix. Fogerty played guitar like Clapton and sang like Solomon Burke, what more could you ask for?
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Post Praetorian said:
I have always enjoyed New Order...
I would consider it proper for Ceremony to be played at my funeral...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pr6SxJb-Dw
Whenever I am in a bad way I can rely on those soothing tones and discursive lyrics to bring me around...
Temptation manages to provide just the right depth of feeling to correspond with the sense of melancholy with which I am most familiar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUjUTG3hwyQ
...and Here To Stay is just perfect regardless of mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQwhQ4ytVFc
I was obsessed with New Order in high school. I still enjoy them now.
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EyeShotFirst said:
I agree. Good luck hearing anything besides their handful of rock hits on the radio these days though.
These days? For the most part, radio has always been this way. I haven't listened to the radio since the 90s.
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I like classical music, probably because I love all the old movie scores heavily inspired by it. My favorites are Mozart (of course), Bach (duh), Tchaikovsky (who doesn't?), and Shostakovich. Does anyone else enjoy this kind of music?
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^Classical was my first love. My parents had a CD a month kind of a deal with The Musical Heritage Society, so I got a lot of great recordings from the more popular composers. I think I listened to the Amadeus Soundtrack hundreds of times. I also had a box set of Beethoven's Symphonies that I played, and still play a lot today.
I have listened to classical as far back as I can remember. I have memories of being a toddler sitting in front of my parents floor model stereo console for hours. I'd come down stairs on a Saturday morning and start up the music.
Now my classical collection has become huge. I didn't become obsessed with the collection of the albums, it was more a collection of sounds. Mozart is probably my favorite composer, as far as sheer volume of works. I really love the Russian composers from Tchaikovsky to Stravinsky. Beethoven is pretty much tied with Mozart in quality, but Mozart edges him out in quantity.
I've also developed a love of opera over the years. I haven't gone to a live opera, but I've seen a lot of home video releases.
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I would consider it proper for Ceremony to be played at my funeral...
I'm having the Jam at mine...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE1ct5yEuVY
...it's in my will ;-) because funerals should be funnier and well, it totally rocks!
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Post Praetorian said:
Possessed said:
imperialscum said:
Possessed said:
EyeShotFirst said:
Because my music tastes are so broad, I have developed an odd style that doesn't belong to a single genre, and I think it would be a crime to waste that in a cover band.
The same could be said about me. I primarily play metal, but with the attitude and fury of Stevie Ray Vaughan (he may have been blues, but he plays with more fury than metal. Metal's fury comes from primarily the thick instrumentation and the momentum of the songwriting, but I would say alot of metal bands actually play their instruments pretty tamely. Fast, but soft. I play metal riffs like SRV played blues riffs... played hard and floored. ) Also I solo quite alot like Stevie Ray Vaughan mixed with some more melodic classical shredding and occasionally the random-ish outbursts of furious notes of Slayer's Kerry King, all infused in to one. Suffice it to say I'm all over the place. I can actually carry a song too, which is a trait most local guitarists here seem to lack. Most of them only learn "tricks" or gimmicks, but when they play riffs or songs they just sound horrible.
Uuuh high and mighty, are we? And I was led to believe I was being the only one around here.
You're damn right I'm high and mighty about my guitar playing, I've worked hard on it and I'm good at it.
Having listened to you play, I must agree: you are extremely talented...!
Thank you! Although truthfully I did kind of go overboard on that post... I wasn't really trying to come off that way but I was a little sauced and I kind of lost track of how much I'd said already and before long a few sentences became a long run-on paragraph without my full consent. :P
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Plus there's the fact that Stevie could sing and play guitar at the same time better than hendrix could sing without playing or play without singing...
Hendrix is a good player, and he's definitely innovative, but also he was sloppy and stevie never was.
Well playing guitar well does not equal to making great music. And SRV is a prime example of that, in my opinion of course. Admittedly, His technique is amazing and he may play 10 notes per second, but I just don't feel anything special about his music. I will take Hendrix any day.
You can invest countless hour in playing guitar and your technique will become flawless. But if you don't have that something special, you will never make great music.
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Ryan McAvoy said:
Post Praetorian said:
I would consider it proper for Ceremony to be played at my funeral...
I'm having the Jam at mine...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE1ct5yEuVY
...it's in my will ;-) because funerals should be funnier and well, it totally rocks!
Good picks!
It'll be Madness version of One Step Beyond at mine.
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imperialscum said:
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Plus there's the fact that Stevie could sing and play guitar at the same time better than hendrix could sing without playing or play without singing...
Hendrix is a good player, and he's definitely innovative, but also he was sloppy and stevie never was.
Well playing guitar well does not equal to making great music. And SRV is a prime example of that, in my opinion of course. Admittedly, His technique is amazing and he may play 10 notes per second, but I just don't feel anything special about his music. I will take Hendrix any day.
You can invest countless hour in playing guitar and your technique will become flawless. But if you don't have that something special, you will never make great music.
It's the other way around for me. I can listen to SRV all day, and I only really enjoy a handful of Hendrix tunes, but to each his own. I like his bluesier stuff, but not much of his "out there" stuff.
I think the (all speed, not heart) statement works more for Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, and other big name virtuosos who are all lightning with no depth. They make faces and bend the occasional note, but it's got no feelinig. Steve Vai has a lot of interesting moments in his music, but I find myself becoming quite bored after a short period of time.
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Stevie played with so much heart it was ridiculous.
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I have been obsessed with the 19th century composer Brahms for some time now. I know that technically other composers are better (Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven come to mind), but I just really enjoy the Brahms sound.
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Here's a Brahms clip. As a bonus, the conductor looks like The Emperor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGWB93-mmI
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I quite enjoy Brahms. His piano works are very on par with Beethoven in style and technicality. Dvorak is one that I've really been giving a lot of attention lately.
Silent Woods - a piece that deserves much more appreciation. Very beautiful. Dvorak is a lot like Beethoven in how he paints scenery with music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZYmFWcHdB4
His New World Symphony is in my top 10 favorite symphonies of all time.
Herbert Von Karajan's pre 80s recording is probably my favorite version. He was growing pretty feeble by the time he recorded the more well known version. This video has the thunder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_1N6_O254g
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EyeShotFirst said:
^Classical was my first love. My parents had a CD a month kind of a deal with The Musical Heritage Society, so I got a lot of great recordings from the more popular composers.
Very interesting, I wonder if anything like that still exists? Yes, I still use CDs, but that shouldn't be surprising around here where Laserdiscs are the norm.
I think I listened to the Amadeus Soundtrack hundreds of times.
Me too! Amadeus changed the way I listen to music. I can't even listen to things I used to be able to tolerate anymore.
I have listened to classical as far back as I can remember. I have memories of being a toddler sitting in front of my parents floor model stereo console for hours. I'd come down stairs on a Saturday morning and start up the music.
My parents listened to classical music all the time in my young childhood, perhaps that had an impact on me to this day?
Now my classical collection has become huge. I didn't become obsessed with the collection of the albums, it was more a collection of sounds. Mozart is probably my favorite composer, as far as sheer volume of works. I really love the Russian composers from Tchaikovsky to Stravinsky. Beethoven is pretty much tied with Mozart in quality, but Mozart edges him out in quantity.
Compared to you, I haven't listened to near as much as I want to. I haven't even heard Stravinsky, but the Russian composers certainly contribute their own twist on music that I can't help but love. As for Beethoven v. Mozart, I think many of Beethoven's works have been so overused in movies, commercials, etc. that I can barely listen to them as much as Mozart. I know that sounds terrible, but I can't help it. Mozart is my favorite of the two.