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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 49

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No LSO is a big break from tradition.

I dare say that modern technology could figure out a way for John Williams to remote conduct them.

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That's what I was thinking. But if Disney's inked a deal with that union, all bets may be off. Unless Lucasfilm can find a loophole?

Where were you in '77?

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I can understand it from the union's point of view in the case of mostly American movies but it's an international production (large chunks of it utilising UK talent already).

When the last two prequels were most made in Australia the LSO was still used for the tradition of using them.

If Disney follows through with this, what to stop the cold opening (with the crawl) tradition ending? Wasn't it complaints about that sort of thing which caused the rift between Lucas and the DGA and SAG?

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Yes, and it has been cited as one of the reasons Spielberg never got to direct an SW film, and why Lucas ended up hiring Marqaund.

Lucas and the DGA have kissed and made up since then, so maybe it's no longer an issue?

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Not using the LSO would be a first for a Star Wars movie, but not for a Williams-scored Lucasfilm production. Weren't each of the Indy films performed by a different orchestra?

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All I know is that teaser better drop soon. The waiting is making me crazy! ;)

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There's a similar description here that I meant to post several days ago:

http://badassdigest.com/2014/11/17/what-will-the-first-star-wars-the-force-awakens-trailer-contain/

I think someone in this thread mentioned a week or two back that the teaser would be attached to Into the Woods, although that might've just been pure speculation passed off as rumor. It would certainly make sense, being a Disney movie, kind of like how that very first teaser for Interstellar was attached to The Desolation of Smaug (another Warner Brothers project) almost eleven months ahead of time. It would also make sense because Into the Woods opens Christmas day and it will then be 358 days until Ep7 comes out.

It's a good bet we won't see the next trailer until May. For one thing, it will give ILM enough time to finish a decent amount of effects shots to show off. Also, there's May the Fourth and 5/25 as potential dates to time the trailer around. Actually, it would make sense attaching it to Tomorrowland on Memorial Day weekend since it could potentially draw more people to the theater to see the trailer on the big screen (although the novelty is kind of lost when they'll most likely upload it to youtube in hd quality several days ahead of time). Either way, Age of Ultron certainly doesn't need that extra incentive to buy tickets.

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I'm predicting a short (~60sec) teaser attached to Battle of the Five Armies, then a full first trailer (~2m30s) in May, possibly attached to Age of Ultron.

I understand the idea behind pairing teasers/trailers to Into the Woods and Tomorrowland, but I think they'd rather get the trailers out to as many people as possible ASAP rather than trying to use the lure of a Star Wars trailer to increase sales for movies that aren't going to be guaranteed successes. Hobbit 3 and Avengers 2 are guaranteed successes - a LOT of people will be seeing them, which means a LOT of people will be seeing previews for the new Star Wars, increasing buzz for the movie.

Of course, I could be wrong.

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There's also this...

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/11/19/94800-star-wars-trailer-attached-to-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies/

When Williams said he was going to start working on TFA, one of the producers at BSX Records reported that Williams was actually going to write music for the teaser (not the actual film) that is to be released with "Into the Woods."  That is what he heard from people "in the know."  However, it makes more sense to attach to the hobbit film.  I believe companies are allowed to cross-promote a few times a year.

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In the age of the internet it probably doesn't make a difference which movie gets the trailer, whereas in 1999 there was a night and day difference between watching the TPM trailers online (or even on tv) and seeing it in the theater.

Now it's more about timing everything perfectly and building as much social media buzz as possible. Also, people get pissed when they go see a movie expecting to see a trailer and it never shows up.

It would certainly be more appropriate to put the teaser out with The Hobbit. Ep7 opens on the release date that has been occupied for three years in a row by The Hobbit (and shall be for three years after that by the Avatar sequels, although the first Star Wars "spin-off" is opening within only a week or so of Avatar 2). Battle of Five Armies is definitely the big end of the year event movie, just as the other five middle earth films were. If they're looking for as many eyes as possible to show the trailer, they've got The Hobbit. If they value corporate synergy more, there's Into the Woods.

ETA: Ah, TORN. That and TFN were my one stop locations for LotR and Star Wars news/rumors/spoilers back in the day.

I keep hearing these rumors about a Batman v Superman teaser hitting next month. It's not impossible, but it's the definition of wishful thinking. The movie will still be 15 months from release.

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Anchorhead said:

Total rumor and speculation at this point, but this part would be fatastically sparse and chill-inducing;

At one point, the music "swells up into full orchestral piece" and a voice of a female character speculated to be Daily Ridley's-says "Wake Up."

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/573301/20141119/star-wars-force-awakens-trailer-spoilers-leak.htm

Expect joke versions with Threepio saying the same to Artoo from ANH.

You are tempted to do it aren't you... Goooooood. take you editor's tools... strike me down with all of your ridiculousness and your journey towards meme fame will be complete... heee heee heeee.

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According to this article, it won't debut with The Hobbit, but may be attached to the film.  The "creditable source" says Disney has bigger plans for the teaser's debut.

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As I said in that other thread, I think they're gonna hold onto the teaser and save it for Strange Magic in January.

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I wonder if Disney has learned from what happened with the Age of Ultron trailer, where they told everyone about it a week ahead of time and then someone leaked a low-quality bootleg of it the very next day.

Then again, that movie hasn't been shrouded in secrecy the way Episode 7 has. An audio recording from the comic-con footage in Hall H went up on YouTube and neither Disney nor Marvel seemed to care. The ep7 teaser, on the other hand, will be the first time anyone outside of the production sees footage from the film, and it's going to be ultra-teasery footage at that.

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The complete lack of any real promotion for Strange Magic thus far really makes it look like something Disney isn't too keen on. There's not even a trailer online anywhere that I can find. I don't doubt the teaser could play with it, but it's likely not going to be the first place we see it.

If they still made trailers on 35mm, someone would have stolen it and scanned frames from it by now. ;)

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SilverWook said:

The complete lack of any real promotion for Strange Magic thus far really makes it look like something Disney isn't too keen on. There's not even a trailer online anywhere that I can find. I don't doubt the teaser could play with it, but it's likely not going to be the first place we see it.

 Given that it's coming out in January... it's probably awful.

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The article talks about a big debut of the teaser with the likelihood of it also being attached to The Hobbit.  Therefore, the debut would have to take place before The Hobbit.  Again, it's all speculation even if the article says all this information came from a "creditable source."

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I'm not sure if the teaser's debut will be attached a TV show, either, such as Rebels. I wouldn't be surprised if it simply debuts at starwars.com.

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Given what happened when the Blu Ray trailer hit, it will be amazing if the site doesn't buckle under the strain if they debut there.

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I remember watching  the TPM trailer on dial up on the Star Wars site...oh the phone bill  <:-O

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They'll probably just throw it up on youtube without announcing it ahead of time.

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Honestly I kinda wish it wouldn't ever show up online or on the TV, keep it only to the theatres.  I think it would make the trailer feel more special.

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If there's truth to the rumor and it does debut somewhere other than in theaters, I'll (try to) refrain from watching it until it is in theaters. I want to see it for the first time with a huge screen and big speakers so that, as emanswfan mentions, it'll feel more special... after that, then I'm watching it countless times online of course :)

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