DuracellEnergizer said:
Since when has the Archie comics dealt with shit like this, anyway? I was never a regular reader of the comics but my sister was, and from what I remember, most of the stories were about teens doing more-or-less regular teen stuff, the occassional foray into the surreal or supernatural notwithstanding.
It was a limited series taking place in the adult years of the characters. I think it is meant to appeal to one time readers that are now adult, and not aimed at the pre-teen set.
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
Yeah I collected them as a kid and the nearest they came to doing this sort of thing were a few stories where the lesson was study hard and do well in school kids. They never went dark like this.
This is just a sad cry for attention like most gritty reboots in comics these days.
Now Archie has gone dark and gritty and little piece of my soul just died.
FanFiltration said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
Since when has the Archie comics dealt with shit like this, anyway? I was never a regular reader of the comics but my sister was, and from what I remember, most of the stories were about teens doing more-or-less regular teen stuff, the occassional foray into the surreal or supernatural notwithstanding.
It was a limited series taking place in the adult years of the characters. I think it is meant to appeal to one time readers that are now adult, and not aimed at the pre-teen set.
That seems like flawed logic on their part, because if I picked up an Archie comic after a long hiatus (were I a fan), I'd want to jump into the old Archie adventures I remembered as a kid, not some gritty, blood-spattered hardcore version. I wouldn't want to read about Jughead dying of a heroin overdose or something.
As a Calvin and Hobbes fan, I wouldn't want to read an adult version of Calvin and Hobbes where Calvin forgets about Hobbes, even as a one-off. I'd rather just pick it up where it was when I left it off.
Things for kids don't always need a loss-of-innocence moment or to "grow up", because people who enjoyed them who come back to them usually want to feel the nostalgia of how it was to read the stories when they were younger, as a guilty pleasure. Being an adult doesn't always mean wanting to deal with adult situations; especially when you want to escape with an old comic book "friend".
I'm just so tired of everything having to be heavy and gritty and whatnot. Ugh.
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Tyrphanax said:
FanFiltration said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
Since when has the Archie comics dealt with shit like this, anyway? I was never a regular reader of the comics but my sister was, and from what I remember, most of the stories were about teens doing more-or-less regular teen stuff, the occassional foray into the surreal or supernatural notwithstanding.
It was a limited series taking place in the adult years of the characters. I think it is meant to appeal to one time readers that are now adult, and not aimed at the pre-teen set.
That seems like flawed logic on their part, because if I picked up an Archie comic after a long hiatus (were I a fan), I'd want to jump into the old Archie adventures I remembered as a kid, not some gritty, blood-spattered hardcore version. I wouldn't want to read about Jughead dying of a heroin overdose or something.
As a Calvin and Hobbes fan, I wouldn't want to read an adult version of Calvin and Hobbes where Calvin forgets about Hobbes, even as a one-off. I'd rather just pick it up where it was when I left it off.
Things for kids don't always need a loss-of-innocence moment or to "grow up", because people who enjoyed them who come back to them usually want to feel the nostalgia of how it was to read the stories when they were younger, as a guilty pleasure. Being an adult doesn't always mean wanting to deal with adult situations; especially when you want to escape with an old comic book "friend".
I'm just so tired of everything having to be heavy and gritty and whatnot. Ugh.
Yes! Thank you!
You just put into words so well why I gave up on mainstream comics after reading them all my life due to a combination of Civil War,One more day,and All Star Batman and Robin. Thank you. I read about men with superpowers fighting crime teenagers who never seem to leave the 1940s to escape the real world for a few minutes not be reminded of it.
Archie seems to take place in the same kind of never never land that the Jeeves and Wooster stories took place it and it's hard to imagine a Jeeves and Wooster story that would feature the final solution or something like that in it because it would be so at odds with the tone and purpose of the book.
Sometimes growing up means taking an honest look at your work and saying "Maybe I am not making the deepest or most important thing in history but that is okay,maybe this silly escape is also something people need. and I don't need to try to be adult with these stories in order to prove that I am an adult".
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
^ :-(
'Godfather of Makeup' Dick Smith dead at age 92; created Brando's Corleone, 'Exorcist' Blair
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
that's a pretty good resume of makeup jobs. May he R.I.P.
Sad to hear about Dick Smith. He's a legend.
I loved the story about him taking the Linda Blair doll for a ride in the car and flipping the head around to freak out people.
I'm not sure that he could get away with that now :-D
James Brady, former White House press secretary, dies at 73
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
Oof.. ^ that's news to me... I adore the (original) Texas Chainsaw Massacre. One of the few films that truly scared me.
Just heard Robin Williams killed himself... what.
Just... what?
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Jings.
I thought it was another hoax.
Very sad news,
J
This is one of the few times I have gotten legitimately, deeply saddened by the death of a celebrity. It's a shame.
Dboman said:
I don't care about spelling! I just want to find a mirror!
I wonder how many eulogies for the fat dancer from Take That we will now get?
I almost never come to this thread, but I did today because of Robin Williams. Very sad news.
Absolutely shocked. Why must creativity and genius always seem to go hand in hand with personal demons?
There was a bit in one of his early stand up specials where he portrayed himself as an old man. That will be bittersweet now.
Where were you in '77?
darth_ender said:
I almost never come to this thread, but I did today because of Robin Williams. Very sad news.
Do you mean THE Robin Williams or is this another one I have not heard of? I have been avoiding the news lately because it is too depressing. if this is the Robin Williams I am thinking of then this only confirms that the only news we get these days is bad news:(
DrCrowTStarwars said:
darth_ender said:
I almost never come to this thread, but I did today because of Robin Williams. Very sad news.
Do you mean THE Robin Williams or is this another one I have not heard of? I have been avoiding the news lately because it is too depressing. if this is the Robin Williams I am thinking of then this only confirms that the only news we get these days is bad news:(
It is THE Robin Williams sadly
very sad : (
Robin Williams is dead?! This is -- I don't know what to really say -- offputting to say the least.
The Genie and Mrs. Doubtfire are both prominent figures from my childhood; knowing the guy who played them is gone is just ... wrong.
Good night:(
