You're getting lost on the fact that the first post can be edited whenever the original poster wants. Forums, such as these, usually reserve the first post or two for use later, to contain the most up-to-date information in one easy to reference spot. If you look in the bottom right of the first post, it'll say the date it was last edited.
Thanks for waking me up,lol. I've downloaded it and watched some last night and I KNEW the quality was better. IT's AMAZING what can be done with a movie released in 1980! It's like Christmas to me every time a newly improved version is released. :) Thank you, Harmy.
lordsidi said:
IT's AMAZING what can be done with a movie released in 1980!
You should check out the Metropolis blu-ray to see what can be done with a movie released in 1927!
A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.
I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!
—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3
All I know is that it's a shame that ALL Star Wars fans are'nt aware of these versions. So many are probably just watching what has been released and wishing they could see the true original movie presentation and with audio/video BETTER than the "official" blu rays.
Harmy said:
I just found out that I only have the '93 mix for ESB from the PAL GOUT - could someone please upload a better AC3 of it for me?
Anyone? This is now the only thing keeping me from finishing the MKV release.
hairy_hen said:
I strongly advise against letting a conversion program make AC3 out of the DTS-HD MA. Dolby Digital encoding has several user-defined parameters which I specifically set a certain way to optimize the sound quality as well as to maintain the integrity of the mix. It is quite likely that the results will be subpar if this kind of transcoding is performed, because it won't follow my intentions and the result will not match what it is supposed to sound like. The level and relative phase of the surrounds and LFE can be harmed significantly if this is done incorrectly.
Also, the official Dolby encoder has a more capable algorithm than any freeware version, so my AC3 will definitely be better. As has been stated, remux the video and audio into the required format without re-encoding either in order to maintain quality and deliver the proper results.
That sounds like something I would love to do with SW 2.5(until MKV for ESB comes out). I would like to watch it on my PS3, but I only have a pair of powered speakers connected to it for the moment so DTS is out of the question. I would like to combine the MKV at the highest bitrate (15000 ?) with the AVCHD 2.0 mix. I have a muxing software, but not sure what to do with it. I guess I need to extract the video part from MKV, then the audio from AVCHD, then recombined into new MKV, then convert to mp4?
Just getting started with this stuff, and only because of you guys work on those SW movies.
Thanks for any tips on how to achieve this.
Harmy said:
I just found out that I only have the '93 mix for ESB from the PAL GOUT - could someone please upload a better AC3 of it for me?
I don't want the lossless version, I just want to have an AC3 there for completeness and I've already got it, thanks to someone on the forum :-)
I also realized, that in v2.5 of SW, I had the '85 LD mix as well - was the '85 mix of ESB different in any way? Or in other words, is it worth searching for and including?
Come on guys, give the man the bloody mix if you have it :-)
Harmy said:
I don't want the lossless version, I just want to have an AC3 there for completeness and I've already got it, thanks to someone on the forum :-)
I also realized, that in v2.5 of SW, I had the '85 LD mix as well - was the '85 mix of ESB different in any way? Or in other words, is it worth searching for and including?
Yes, exactly, all the ORIGINAL mixes. The '93 mix is not original, plus the only difference between the '93 mix and the '80 mix as far as we know is that in the '93 mix, one speeder crash sound effect is missing, so it's hardly worth having it add nearly 1GB to the MKV.
Harmy said:
I also realized, that in v2.5 of SW, I had the '85 LD mix as well - was the '85 mix of ESB different in any way? Or in other words, is it worth searching for and including?
Nope: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ESB-ROTJ-Audio-Mixes/post/666928/#TopicPost666928
A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.
I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!
—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3
Hairy_hen,
A follow-up question re the audio streams. Which is higher quality, the Digital Dolby (AC-3) bitstream or the "core" bitstream from the DTS-HD MA track? (The core stream is all I can ever get VLC to play from a DTS-HD MA track). I'm guessing the DTS-HD MA core is still better since it will still have almost three times the bitrate of DD 5.1 but wanted to ask you.
Yeah, I was wondering that too.
digitalfreaknyc said:
davextreme said:
Do we/should we have an official nominee to submit the .mkv to MySpleen? My home upload speed isn't the greatest so I'm probably not the best candidate, but I wanted to bring up the subject.
I'm happy to do it. I have an account there.
Thank you! I've been waiting for the MKV to be finished and up on MySpleen...hard not to give in and grab the .iso, but I think the crazy bit rate will be worth the wait.
I have uploaded the ISO and corresponding files to my Google Drive and may be freely downloaded by any member who sees the following link:
****Link Removed****
What else could possibly be done to Empire everything looks just as I remember when I first saw Empire. I can't wait to see Jedi
Please remove the link immediately! It is against forum rules to post direct links!
Also, I was wondering, would there be any technical disadvantage to making the container of the smaller cropped version mp4 instead of mkv? Doing this should help avoid confusion.
Did he just link to your readme?
Fanrestore - Fan Restoration Forum: https://fanrestore.com
davextreme said:
I'm going to run the film through Handbrake to watch on Apple TV.
Infinity said:
First off don't use Handbrake as that will compress the video yet another time (and possibly the audio depending on your settings). The best quality for your purposes would be from remuxing the video from the large MKV release and the DD 5.1 audio from the AVCHD release.
Unfortunately, AppleTV doesn't play well with h.264 sliced coding. It will play the video but may skip and heaven help you if you try to seek. While I fully agree that remuxing is generally a better choice, recompression is unavoidable in this case.
Don't rush to convert the v2.0 AVCHD, though; HandBrake trips over the video stream but we're looking into why.
Harmy said:
Also, I was wondering, would there be any technical disadvantage to making the container of the smaller cropped version mp4 instead of mkv?
See my last. While MP4 certainly isn't limited to Apple devices, they do not play well with sliced video. For maximum compatibility I'd recommend disabling slices for an MP4. They're only needed for Blu-ray compatibility anyway.
Edited to add: Also, MP4 is more limited in the subtitle formats it supports and DTS isn't a thing.
Subler, which I use for messing with video metadata, recommends changing the H.264 Video Profile/Level setting to "Main @ 3.1" for Apple devices. The Star Wars mkv came in at High @ 4.1. Do you think changing this will fix it, or should I plan to recompress with Handbrake.
(I'll use the Dolby Digital video from the AVCHD files. That's a great recommendation.)
Ugh... I was afraid Doug Detling would end up doing that...
OK, here's the NFO I made for the MKV, could you guys please check it for mistakes? Thanks.
This is a reconstruction of the 1980 theatrical version of The Empire Strikes Back. The original shots were painstakingly restored using various sources (listed below) and the film received an extensive shot by shot colour correction.
The remastered version (v2.0) represents a significant improvement in picture quality over the earlier 1.0 version due to the use of better encoding and higher quality sources and replacing many of the despecialized shots with
higher quality ones.
The MKV version contains a large number of audio tracks, including the latest versions of the preservations of the original audio mixes in DTS-HD, three different commentary tracks, an isolated score and dubbing
tracks in 13 different languages.
More information can be found here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-THE-EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-Despecialized-Edition-HD/topic/12511/
VIDEO SOURCES:
1) STAR WARS Episode V The Empire Strikes Back Official Blu-Ray 2011
2) STAR WARS Episode V The Empire Strikes Back 2006 Bonus DVD
(sourced from the 1993 Definitive Edition Laser Disc Master - upscale by Mattman Omega)
3) Adywan's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK 1997 Special Edition Reconstruction 1080p MKV (HDTV source)
4) STAR WARS 1997 Special Edition (Reivax DTV capture)
5) Team Negative1 35mm print scan
6) Custom mattes, 35mm film cell scans etc.
7) Adywan's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK 1980 Theatrical Reconstruction NTSC DVD
8) Puggo Strikes Back (16mm print transfer)
Technical Specifications:
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CONTAINER: MKV
SIZE: 19.6 GB
VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps
AUDIO: Special thanks to hairy_hen, Schorman, ABC, Puggo and Mavimao
TRACK 1) 5.1 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1980 mix)
TRACK 2) 2.0 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1980 mix)
TRACK 3) 1.0 DTS-HD-MA [English] (1980 16mm mono mix)
TRACK 4) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1993 Laserdisc mix)
TRACK 5) 2.0 Dolby Digital [German]
TRACK 6) 2.0 Dolby Digital [French]
TRACK 7) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (Castilian)
TRACK 8) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish] (American)
TRACK 9) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Portuguese] (Brazilian)
TRACK 10) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Japanese]
TRACK 11) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Italian]
TRACK 12) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Polish] (Voiceover)
TRACK 13) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Czech]
TRACK 14) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Hungarian]
TRACK 15) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Slovak]
TRACK 16) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Russian]
TRACK 17) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Russian] (Voiceover)
TRACK 18) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Ukrainian] (Voiceover)
TRACK 19) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)
TRACK 20) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2004 DVD Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)
TRACK 21) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English] (2011 BD Archival Interviews Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)
TRACK 22) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Isolated Score] (Compiled by hairy_hen)
SUBTITLES: (Project Threepio v8.0) Special thanks to CatBus
Project Threepio is a collection of subtitles for the Star Wars Original
Unaltered Trilogy, synced to the GOUT (the 2006 DVD Bonus Disc) for
compatibility with many popular preservations.
LANGUAGES INCLUDED
English Brazilian Portuguese Polish Swedish
English SDH European Portuguese Ukrainian Bulgarian
Mandarin (Simplified) Indonesian Romanian Finnish
Mandarin (Traditional) Japanese Croatian Danish
Cantonese French Thai Hebrew
American Spanish German Dutch Norwegian
Castilian Spanish Turkish Hungarian Slovenian
Arabic Korean Czech Icelandic
Russian Italian Greek
More info here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/topic/13794/
If you want to watch with subtitles, take your chosen subtitle .srt file from the
"Subtitles - Project Threepio" folder, copy it to the folder with the .mkv file and
rename the .srt file to the same name as the .mkv file, while keeping the .srt extension.
So for example, if you wanted to watch with Bulgarian subtitles, you would copy the file
"SW-bg-full.srt" from the "Subtitles - Project Threepio" folder to the folder with the
"The.Empire.Strikes.Back.Despecialized.Edition.v2.0.mkv" file and rename the file to
"The.Empire.Strikes.Back.Despecialized.Edition.v2.0.srt".
Harmy, am I missing something? Your NFO above references the 7.9 GB AVCHD .iso.
This is supposed to be for the MKV, right?