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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 480

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First of all, thank you so much for your hard work on V2.5. It is possibly the most detailed preservation we have. I have a question though, it concerns the canyon scene with the jawas. In the original pan & scan version, that would be the Video Rental Library cassette. It is clearly daytime or late afternoon as R2 heads down the canyon. Going through my library, it has occurred to me that this scene has not been restored in the Despecialized Edition. Any thoughts on this minor omission? Not being critical in any way so please no back biting. I understand using HD sources for this preservation, just curious if this was noticed.

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IIRC, most home video versions of Star Wars were overly bright in all areas, with washed-out colors, essentially turning dark red-tinted evenings into bright neutral-tinted afternoons, among other things (the matte boxes being very visible on VHS are another example).  My VHS copy is pretty pink-tinted too, so any residual red in the sky is lost in the pink cast over the whole thing IMO.

While Harmy did use HD sources for this, everything was color-corrected to match a privately-owned extremely-low-fade theatrical print, so the colors here are pretty unimpeachable in most cases, although there's a few issues with clipping here and there from the HD sources.  I doubt we should be so lucky with the other two films, although I'm sure he'll do his best ;)

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Thank you so much for the detailed response. It has always bothered me wondering which one was correct. While I prefer to watch Harmy' s version for its clarity and overall correctness, it's still a blast to watch the originals I grew up with. My next question would be then if this means the original theatrical release featured the same color errors.

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TK421138 said:

Thank you so much for the detailed response. It has always bothered me wondering which one was correct. While I prefer to watch Harmy' s version for its clarity and overall correctness, it's still a blast to watch the originals I grew up with. My next question would be then if this means the original theatrical release featured the same color errors.

 This is probably the most controversial scene in the Despecialized version.  There was ample discussion about this scene around page 236 of this thread if you want to look over it.

Long story short, each person remembers that scene differently.  The brightness would have been different theater to theater depending on the projector and how good the projectionist was and each early VHS version had different brightness levels.  Not to mention the different settings of TVs etc. This means most of us have a different perspective of which version is "correct".

Harmy did change the brightness between v2.0 and v2.5  

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There indeed seemed to be quite a bit of variation in many of the canyon scenes; R2 and the Jawas, Luke and 3P0 finding R2 (which is surprisingly colorful in comparison) and the biggest one for me which is Ben revealing himself to Luke. I felt it stuck out when watching v2.0, later realizing it was indeed more accurate to the original source.

Video can do nutty stuff to our memories.

Sorry to chime in late but I've finally gotten down to enjoying 2.5 after my new HDD came in. This is a fantastic upgrade in numerous ways, with nearly everything upgraded, checked off and tweaked to their finest. Even as someone who is more dedicated to fully original sources, this is probably our landmark in terms of bridging the gap between the modern quality the film should have and the video hell it has always been stuck in.

Thank you Harmy for continuing to better this massive undertaking.

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So I noticed demonoid had an old version up (probably with no seeds though haha), and being that Harmy said it was OK I upped the 2.5 MKV there - a bunch of people jumped on it and it's now self-seeded.

Posting to let you know that you should be pleased it's made at least 20 demonoid users so far happy (and probably countless more in the future)!

Thanks so much for all the work involved in this Harmy, look forward to seeing your future projects!!

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Harmy said:

HAPPY STAR WARS DAY!

 As someone who was born on May 25th, thank you for doing away with that May the 4th bull. May 25th is the real Star Wars Day... and Alien Day.

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RU.08 said:


So I noticed demonoid had an old version up (probably with no seeds though haha), and being that Harmy said it was OK I upped the 2.5 MKV there - a bunch of people jumped on it and it's now self-seeded.

Posting to let you know that you should be pleased it's made at least 20 demonoid users so far happy (and probably countless more in the future)!

Thanks so much for all the work involved in this Harmy, look forward to seeing your future projects!!


Ha. I didn't even know that demonoid was back! Jesus, it's awful though. I can't even search.

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DavidMerrick said:

May 25th is the real Star Wars Day

THIS

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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wow amazing work. but i have a question, my english is not so good and i cant undertand how i can download this. somebody cans helpme?

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I'm really impressed with how the films were restored. It's nice to have the original versions in quality higher than those awful DVDs. The only oddity is that in come cases it looks like there was an attempt to retain many of the obvious flaws like optical printing artifacts (ex: when that second Y-Wing gets shot down by Vader) that were fixed for the SEs, but in other cases keep in what the blu-rays fixed such as erasing the matte lines from the Rancor when looking over on Luke. I would have preferred if kept in some of the fixes that the SEs did. Digitally recompositing some of the effects to do away the generational loss in film was one of the only things I thought was totally understandable for Lucas to go for, to give the films the best picture quality possible. It's something I wish was possible for the original STAR TREK tv series.

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Those mistakes were an integral part of the original - if I had been able to convincingly restore the matte lines on the Rancor in v1.0, I would have and I'll certainly be attempting it again in v2.0.

This is a great article, about the advances in optical compositing made by ILM for the SW Trilogy - it is perfect to illustrate the point I was always trying to make about how digital recompositing destroys the artistic integrity of the FX shots, even if it uses the same elements, because the method and quality of the optical compositing was a huge part of the original effects. Just look at the article's conclusion:

It took every ounce of ingenuity our crew possessed to make these sequences work. Discussion, planning and storyboarding were a key to the successful realization of these shots. After one-and-a-half years of extraordinary labor, ILM's optical crew composited a total of 415 shots, making George Lucas' The Empire Strikes Back a cinematic reality.

And all that work is lost by re-compositing the effects digitally.

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Were they "mistakes"? I'd think that was just part of the nature of optical printing back in the 70s, not necessarily a goof somebody could have avoided (unless I'm wrong on that). I think digitally recompositing the effects to show them in the highest quality is very complimenting of the work that was originally put behind all that, at least for those that were done without any tinkering. That's just how I'd personally feel if I found out that all the work I put it was redone but now without all the generation loss inherent to optical printing. However, I understand the intent in restoring how the effects originally looked back in 1977 to truly recapture how the film was, optical print artifacts and all, all made by the very people that made it possible in the first place. Either way, I think it's all very admirable and I don't mean to knock on anything. I had a great time watching this last night and I look forward to watching the next two later. Good luck with finding ways make further revisions in restoring the look of those three films, Rancor matte lines and all. :)

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Harmy, I just watched 2.5 for the first time last night (downloaded from the spleen) and I want to thank you for the update. Until now I sticked to 2.1. The improvement is indeed amazing.

I noticed that at some point during the credits the music repeats over and over. It happens after the original credits, when the despecialization credits start, when you thank the members of this forum.

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worov said:

Harmy, I just watched 2.5 for the first time last night (downloaded from the spleen) and I want to thank you for the update. Until now I sticked to 2.1. The improvement is indeed amazing.

I noticed that at some point during the credits the music repeats over and over. It happens after the original credits, when the despecialization credits start, when you thank the members of this forum.

 This did not happen on my MKV.

“That’s impossible, even for a computer!”

“You don't do ‘Star Wars’ in Dobly.”

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It's a bug that happens in VLC - it's been discussed before - it's because the audio is shorter than the video.

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Hello everyone!

I saw the 11-minute 'making of' on Youtube and found the links for the SW DE on tehparadox.  Seems like I'm only 1 part away from seeing this magic in full form, but my unarchiving software (Mac) is saying that part 81 is corrupt.  The DL link says the file is 91.5MB but the DL file is 96MB.

I know a lot of people have successfully DL'd this movie, so I'm hoping someone has some thoughts on what's gone wrong with my attempt.  Any help would be appreciated!

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flanneltie said:

Hello everyone!

I saw the 11-minute 'making of' on Youtube and found the links for the SW DE on tehparadox.  Seems like I'm only 1 part away from seeing this magic in full form, but my unarchiving software (Mac) is saying that part 81 is corrupt.  The DL link says the file is 91.5MB but the DL file is 96MB.

I know a lot of people have successfully DL'd this movie, so I'm hoping someone has some thoughts on what's gone wrong with my attempt.  Any help would be appreciated!

 I've only gotten it via torrent (see here) so not sure about the multi-part archives.

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pitpawten said:

flanneltie said:

Hello everyone!

I saw the 11-minute 'making of' on Youtube and found the links for the SW DE on tehparadox.  Seems like I'm only 1 part away from seeing this magic in full form, but my unarchiving software (Mac) is saying that part 81 is corrupt.  The DL link says the file is 91.5MB but the DL file is 96MB.

I know a lot of people have successfully DL'd this movie, so I'm hoping someone has some thoughts on what's gone wrong with my attempt.  Any help would be appreciated!

 I've only gotten it via torrent (see here) so not sure about the multi-part archives.

 

I registered for that before I found the links in tehparadox.  Frankly, I don't really understand how that invite process works.  I've made the request but I don't understand why I need to be invited to a torrent or how the information comes to me if they accept it.  Since you've gotten it that way, would you mind explaining?

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flanneltie said:

pitpawten said:

flanneltie said:

Hello everyone!

I saw the 11-minute 'making of' on Youtube and found the links for the SW DE on tehparadox.  Seems like I'm only 1 part away from seeing this magic in full form, but my unarchiving software (Mac) is saying that part 81 is corrupt.  The DL link says the file is 91.5MB but the DL file is 96MB.

I know a lot of people have successfully DL'd this movie, so I'm hoping someone has some thoughts on what's gone wrong with my attempt.  Any help would be appreciated!

 I've only gotten it via torrent (see here) so not sure about the multi-part archives.

 

I registered for that before I found the links in tehparadox.  Frankly, I don't really understand how that invite process works.  I've made the request but I don't understand why I need to be invited to a torrent or how the information comes to me if they accept it.  Since you've gotten it that way, would you mind explaining?

PM inbound to keep the thread on topic

You'll be watching soon enough :)

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Thanks, pitpawten, for your quick responses!

In the past when I've done torrents, they've always taken a very long time for me to DL them.  I'm still hoping someone has the answer to Part 81 of the tehparadox links.  :)  In the words of Red Leader, "Almost there!"  Just one part away!

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A similar thing happened in the last page(s) of Harmy's ROTJ thread.
Did you try DL'ing that one part again?

Some write 91.5MB to mean 91.5 MiB or 91.5 x 1,048,576 = 95,944,704 bytes.
which round up to 96MB

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Darth Mallwalker said:

A similar thing happened in the last page(s) of Harmy's ROTJ thread.
Did you try DL'ing that one part again?

Some write 91.5MB to mean 91.5 MiB or 91.5 x 1,048,576 = 95,944,704 bytes.
which round up to 96MB

 I did DL a second time with the same result, unfortunately.  Thanks for the math; I'm horrible at that!  :)

I do get an ISO file, but it won't open.

EDIT: The problem was that the files DL'd from various sites weren't named exactly the same. Once I homogenized the names based on the predominant file name, I now have a working ISO!   Apologies for knocking the thread off base.  I guess I was so excited about seeing the original SW in HD, I didn't think about the thread continuity.  Looking forward to watching it.  **Thank you, Harmy!!**