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Lest it get buried by the debate over the canyon collision sequence -- and for my two cents, I like Ady's original pass at it myself -- I thought I'd reiterate that there's a minor technical error at the 2:30 mark, just as the spinning TIE Fighter explodes: the edge of the matte for the explosion effect is visible against the star field. Looks to me like some opacity tweaking would solve the problem.

Here's an annotated screenshot. It's harder to see when it isn't in motion, so I cranked up the brightness to make it easier to see what I'm talking about (here's hoping this works; never posted an image here before):

The edge is visible for roughly 1-1.5 seconds.

Ady, I hope this is a help to you, and I congratulate and commend you on your continued, mind-boggling achievements with the Revisited series.

EDIT: Arrgh. Here's a direct link to the image instead: http://imgur.com/Xe8ESJ3

Can anybody tell me how to insert an image here?

 

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use the second icon in on the tool bar from the right it is green in color.

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Sleambean said:

Alonzo Mosely said:


We cannot on one hand accept that people possess magic powers (the Force) while on the other hand demanding that every other element of the movie conform to scientific principles.

 but midichlorians

they are very syfy so they are gud

 Every time my brain tries to process this it hurt bad.

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TV's Frink said:

Sleambean said:

Alonzo Mosely said:


We cannot on one hand accept that people possess magic powers (the Force) while on the other hand demanding that every other element of the movie conform to scientific principles.

 but midichlorians

they are very syfy so they are gud

 Every time my brain tries to process this it hurt bad.

 Well that's good because you shouldn't be able to understand it.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

^I figured s/he was being sarcastic.

 Where's the fun in that?

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yoda1138 said:

Love this edit Ady! Model works spot on with the rest of the chase.

Only one question, are you planning on adding a few laser blasts as the Ties enter the canyon? They suddenly stop firing when theres a camera change. Think this may be in the original too? Bit jarring.

Maybe adding 2 or 3 blaster shots after the camera cut to your model will also blend the two scenes. Could maybe have one shot hit the falcon so they don't look so inept like storm troopers.

(Actually, before you rebuilt and filmed the canyon, did you not do this before in your edit? Or am i getting a de jar jar vue?)

Still, great work man!

 Seriously, this sudden stop in firing/continuity bothered no one?

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Quoting yourself is an early sign of a head injury.

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yoda1138 said:

yoda1138 said:

Love this edit Ady! Model works spot on with the rest of the chase.

Only one question, are you planning on adding a few laser blasts as the Ties enter the canyon? They suddenly stop firing when theres a camera change. Think this may be in the original too? Bit jarring.

Maybe adding 2 or 3 blaster shots after the camera cut to your model will also blend the two scenes. Could maybe have one shot hit the falcon so they don't look so inept like storm troopers.

(Actually, before you rebuilt and filmed the canyon, did you not do this before in your edit? Or am i getting a de jar jar vue?)

Still, great work man!

 Seriously, this sudden stop in firing/continuity bothered no one?

 No, it bothers me too, just that I only recently started noticing it, so I have to remember that between the last time I saw the film, and the first time several decades ago, it was fine.

If Ady decides to change it, it won't bother me.

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oh_riginal said:

yoda1138 said:

yoda1138 said:

Love this edit Ady! Model works spot on with the rest of the chase.

Only one question, are you planning on adding a few laser blasts as the Ties enter the canyon? They suddenly stop firing when theres a camera change. Think this may be in the original too? Bit jarring.

Maybe adding 2 or 3 blaster shots after the camera cut to your model will also blend the two scenes. Could maybe have one shot hit the falcon so they don't look so inept like storm troopers.

(Actually, before you rebuilt and filmed the canyon, did you not do this before in your edit? Or am i getting a de jar jar vue?)

Still, great work man!

 Seriously, this sudden stop in firing/continuity bothered no one?

 No, it bothers me too, just that I only recently started noticing it, so I have to remember that between the last time I saw the film, and the first time several decades ago, it was fine.

If Ady decides to change it, it won't bother me.

 He'd have to rebuild the canyon and shoot it over again so it makes sense seeing as how the TIEs have a clear shot at the Millennium Falcon. At this point that seems unlikely. 

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Harmy said:

I think the shots are fine as they are but if one did want to add a bit more dynamism to the camera movement, a bit of rotation could help. Here's a rough demonstration of the idea: http://uloz.to/xqKJtVAq/escape-from-hoth-revisited-mp4

 I'm not one to diminish the incredible job Ady is doing with this edit, but THAT little motion just made what Ady did with the Canyon shot more…. WOW!

DEFINITELY adds to the incredible job Ady already did - as if that were possible - but your "rough" demonstration just puts it right over the top.

I find your lack of faith…disturbing

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INVAR said:

Harmy said:

I think the shots are fine as they are but if one did want to add a bit more dynamism to the camera movement, a bit of rotation could help. Here's a rough demonstration of the idea: http://uloz.to/xqKJtVAq/escape-from-hoth-revisited-mp4

 I'm not one to diminish the incredible job Ady is doing with this edit, but THAT little motion just made what Ady did with the Canyon shot more…. WOW!

DEFINITELY adds to the incredible job Ady already did - as if that were possible - but your "rough" demonstration just puts it right over the top.

 +1

I hope Ady will consider this as well.

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Something I thought about a couple of months ago was why in Empire Strikes Back did we never get treated to the Amazing costume and interior of a Tie Fighter?

Yeah I know we got the AT-AT pilots which were modified from these dudes but still I don't think these guys cannot be beat. Even better than Darth Vader in terms of design perhaps. Any chance of squeezing a shot of one of these dudes in somewhere (not asteroid chase I know this is out of the question here)?

My thoughts are that if you watched Empire as your first star wars experience you would be wondering who was in the tie fighter craft. So the film takes it for granted that you saw the first one which is reasonable as most people have. But that is my point and I think it's something that is sorely missed in Empire Strikes Back.

But this is something that has bugged me for a while they are in Jedi thank goodness it's only Empire where we don't see them. Anyway it's a thought I have had for a while and not sure there is the scope for one to appear but I will just say that I miss these pilots.

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Empire magazine has voted 'The Empire Strikes Back' as the GREATEST movie of all time......and thats without Adywan's improvements....

....WOW!!

.....just gotta add,....the only Prequel to make the list in 300 greatest movies was 'Revenge of the Shit' @ 224

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Jaitea said:

Empire magazine has voted 'The Empire Strikes Back' as the GREATEST movie of all time......and thats without Adywan's improvements....

 Perhaps there is still hope in humanity yet.

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ESB (cropped 16:9 2011 version) was on TV last night and I thought, what the hell, I'll gave it watch. I enjoyed it in a way that I haven't since my early teens. I got totally lost in the story, characters and JW's music.

All the Boba redubbing, added nonsense, pink lightsabers and miscolouring (I adjusted my set a bit to compensate) would normally have just depressed me, made me grind my teeth in anger and brought me right out of enjoying the story. Somehow this time I was able to largely ignore them.

On reflection I decided it must be because of the work of people like Harmy and Adywan who are hard at work restoring and recreating ESB. So the version I just watched felt like just that, a "Version" like when we watched the original 97SE. The fact that at anytime I could stick on a copy of the Despecialzed Edition and soon a copy of ESB:R, made it much easy to watch (Also the prospect of a new OT-centric ST, made the prequels much easier to forget).

So thanks Adywan (and Harmy) for making Star Wars watchable again!

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Got back last night from my very first trip out to Europe for 2 weeks and now I have the chance to finally comment on the latest video :)

Absolutely loved all of the various details you added and reworked, Ady!

Regarding the shaking-cam in the Star Destroyer, I thought that was interesting when I first saw it. I hadn't thought before that the Star Destroyers actually collided with each other (didn't think that they were THAT reckless), instead I thought they only got super close to each other in order to capture the Falcon in a chokepoint (which failed). As for the imperials falling over, I justified it with the sudden "evasive action" tilt of the ship as it's barely avoiding the other. I really do like that effect very much and can go along with the idea that they actually do hit though - it adds a bit more excitement (even if it also does seem very silly and careless of them to get that close and hit, lol).

Amazing work of the new canyon sequence! Regarding the 2 versions though, I'm in the camp who prefers the crashes of the tie fighters in the first version (much more natural looking, more than "super-speed" crashes of the original), but I liked the rest of the changes in the second version (more noticeably the Falcon coming closer and faster towards the camera).

I agree with people who think the tie fighters could/should continue firing at the Falcon in the asteroid canyon, but not too much. I'm thinking it should happen only in that shot of the ships flying over head when first entering the canyon - just firing one shot each (at different times) may be just enough. In the next shot when the ties are about to crash, though, they don't need to be seen firing (at this point they're more focused on making it through the canyon, just as they weren't firing during most of the asteroid sequence).

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INVAR said:

Harmy said:

I think the shots are fine as they are but if one did want to add a bit more dynamism to the camera movement, a bit of rotation could help. Here's a rough demonstration of the idea: http://uloz.to/xqKJtVAq/escape-from-hoth-revisited-mp4

 I'm not one to diminish the incredible job Ady is doing with this edit, but THAT little motion just made what Ady did with the Canyon shot more…. WOW!

DEFINITELY adds to the incredible job Ady already did - as if that were possible - but your "rough" demonstration just puts it right over the top.

 +1

I hope Ady will consider this as well.

I definitely agree with this also. It's a subtle camera movement but makes a positive affect.

Another thing I'd like to comment on is when the Falcon enters the cave. In the very last shot of it flying further on, the inside appears a tiny bit darker with grayish colors for the Revisited, which is a big improvement over the original, but I think it can still afford to be made darker.

Here's a quick comparison I made.. the bottom half is the current Revisited version and the top half is a quick edit of that Revisited version, which was darkened more and more gradually the further it was from the Falcon..

At this point, the only light-source would be from the Falcon. Therefore, wherever the Falcon is, that area of the cave will be illuminated the most; as it is traveling further to the right, the left side of the screen will get darker (I hope you guys can visualize it in motion what I mean). It would require a bit more work, but I do believe this is worthwhile to consider. Not only will it look more consistent with the previous shot of the cave, it will also make the cave more ominous and the forward light effect more prominent (a very nice touch btw!).

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.Mac. said:

Amazing work of the new canyon sequence! Regarding the 2 versions though, I'm in the camp who prefers the crashes of the tie fighters in the first version (much more natural looking, more than "super-speed" crashes of the original), but I liked the rest of the changes in the second version (more noticeably the Falcon coming closer and faster towards the camera).

I agree with people who think the tie fighters could/should continue firing at the Falcon in the asteroid canyon, but not too much. I'm thinking it should happen only in that shot of the ships flying over head when first entering the canyon - just firing one shot each (at different times) may be just enough. In the next shot when the ties are about to crash, though, they don't need to be seen firing (at this point they're more focused on making it through the canyon, just as they weren't firing during most of the asteroid sequence).

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INVAR said:

Harmy said:

I think the shots are fine as they are but if one did want to add a bit more dynamism to the camera movement, a bit of rotation could help. Here's a rough demonstration of the idea: http://uloz.to/xqKJtVAq/escape-from-hoth-revisited-mp4

 I'm not one to diminish the incredible job Ady is doing with this edit, but THAT little motion just made what Ady did with the Canyon shot more…. WOW!

DEFINITELY adds to the incredible job Ady already did - as if that were possible - but your "rough" demonstration just puts it right over the top.

 +1

I hope Ady will consider this as well.

I definitely agree with this also. It's a subtle camera movement but makes a positive affect.

 This is exactly how I feel as well.

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Everything in the recent clip has been fantastic. Two minor effects that I miss were the "electrified" TIE during the canyon collision and that at the end the two TIEs stop blasting away at the Falcon (admittedly, this was also missing from the original version).

One thing that in all honesty I do not like though the shaking effect that implies the Star Destroyer collision (if that was the what Ady aimed for).

It makes the Imperials look quite incompetent and somewhat lessens the impact of the danger the Falcon and her crew are in. It's as if the Falcon escapes not only by Han being an incredible pilot but also because the Imperial fleet just can't catch it due to its own incompetence.

As with .Mac. I also assumed that it's a last minute evasive maneuver to escape collision and it shows just how good the Imperial fleet is and how much they're willing to risk. Would it be possible to leave the shaking effect but much more toned down?

I'm not much into movie editing/effects but if possible I think it would be great if there's a slight, smooth but noticeable "sideways" shake to the right side of the screen. It implies that it's the result of kinetic forces not being compensated fully by the artificial gravity on the ships due to the sudden evasive maneuver to the right but not an actual collision.

:)