Yeah, I got the feeling it was written more so if the movie is bad he can point back to it and say "SEE GUYS I TOLD YOU SO."
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Tyrphanax said:
I don't know. Abrams seems to be more of a star wars guy than a star trek one. And Episode VII isn't written by by the unholy trinity of Orci,Kurtzman, and Lindelof.
^ That comment almost sounds positive. Who are you and what have you done with generalfrevious?
This generalfrevious is obviously from the Mirror Universe.
generalfrevious said:
Tyrphanax said:
I don't know. Abrams seems to be more of a star wars guy than a star trek one. And Episode VII isn't written by by the unholy trinity of Orci,Kurtzman, and Lindelof.
It's more of a glass half-empty thing. No, it's not being written by Orci/Kurtzman and Lindelof, but on the other hand Abrams threw out Arndt's draft so he could completely re-write it. The fact that he's doing so with Kasdan's input is the glass half-full perspective.
We'll probably end up with the Spielberg version of Jedi that never existed. At the end of the day we have a franchise that has unfortunately sucked for over three decades.
I really hope he doesn't come back for VIII and IX. Part of OT's strength is the different directors. The prequels should've each had a different director, and none of them should've been Lucas or even Kershner.
There are a number of directors I'd like to see take a shot:
Guillermo Del Toro
Duncan Jones
Neill Blomkamp
Fang Zei said:
I really hope he doesn't come back for VIII and IX. Part of OT's strength is the different directors. The prequels should've each had a different director, and none of them should've been Lucas or even Kershner.
Kershner is dead, though. But that is a good idea to have three different directors.
I'm still holding out for a Lynch-directed Star Wars film. *crossfingers*
EraserHutt? ;)
Where were you in '77?
I would actually like to see Spielberg direct one of the new films.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
I'm still holding out for a Lynch-directed Star Wars film. *crossfingers*
Let's not forget Cronenberg, either.
Lucas asked both of "the Davids" to direct Jedi and they both turned it down.
Interestingly, Empire's DP Peter Suschitzky eventually became Cronenberg's cinematographer.
Suschitzky recently shot After Earth. It would be cool to get him back to shoot another Star Wars movie.
Well if JJ Abrams does an extraordinary job on episode 7, wouldn't we want him to return for the other episodes? I would. I know not all have the same optimism as I, but I have faith that he can and will deliver something great, based on his previous work and what I've seen so far for 7 (again, not all agree, just like not all agree that ESB is the best SW, except that it is). Plus having the same director helps keep a consistent style between the movies as well as having the groundwork planned out for the future releases (just as Jackson was able to do with LOTR trilogy). Anyway, imagine if Kershner returned to do ROTJ following after his successful ESB...
But, I suppose it's also fun to speculate who else can do a good SW flick - at the moment I'd cast my vote out for the Russo brothers (who both did The Winter Soldier).
My picks:
1. Steven Spielberg (not going to happen though)
2. Brad Bird (probably won't happen either, Disney would rather have him for Incredibles 2)
3. Edgar Wright
4. Matthew Vaughn
5. Rian Johnson
And, well maybe that's it.
Christopher Nolan, Neill Blomkamp, Guillermo Del Toro, or Alfonso Cuaron would all do a fine, dare I say great job, but I doubt any of them would do it.
And there's a chance that Andrew Stanton, Joe Johnston, David Koepp, Jon Favreau, Rupert Wyatt, Duncan Jones, the Russo Brothers, Alan Taylor, or Joe Cornish could work well.
Fang Zei said:
generalfrevious said:
Tyrphanax said:
I don't know. Abrams seems to be more of a star wars guy than a star trek one. And Episode VII isn't written by by the unholy trinity of Orci,Kurtzman, and Lindelof.
It's more of a glass half-empty thing. No, it's not being written by Orci/Kurtzman and Lindelof, but on the other hand Abrams threw out Arndt's draft so he could completely re-write it. The fact that he's doing so with Kasdan's input is the glass half-full perspective.
Tossing out what most likely was a Lucas/Disney idea and bringing in Kasdan to help with a total rewrite is, to me at least, much more than half full. He's looking for guidance from someone who was very involved in the film largely considered the best of the series.
Fang Zei said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
I'm still holding out for a Lynch-directed Star Wars film. *crossfingers*
Let's not forget Cronenberg, either.
Lucas asked both of "the Davids" to direct Jedi and they both turned it down.
Interestingly, Empire's DP Peter Suschitzky eventually became Cronenberg's cinematographer.
Suschitzky recently shot After Earth. It would be cool to get him back to shoot another Star Wars movie.
Hmm ... I never knew that. Thinking about it, it would be interesting to see Cronenberg try to explore his themes of body horror within a SW film.
Anchorhead said:
Fang Zei said:
generalfrevious said:
Tyrphanax said:
I don't know. Abrams seems to be more of a star wars guy than a star trek one. And Episode VII isn't written by by the unholy trinity of Orci,Kurtzman, and Lindelof.
It's more of a glass half-empty thing. No, it's not being written by Orci/Kurtzman and Lindelof, but on the other hand Abrams threw out Arndt's draft so he could completely re-write it. The fact that he's doing so with Kasdan's input is the glass half-full perspective.
Tossing out what most likely was a Lucas/Disney idea and bringing in Kasdan to help with a total rewrite is, to me at least, much more than half full. He's looking for guidance from someone who was very involved in the film largely considered the best of the series.
Again, this is Kennedy calling the shots. The Mouse Ears are watching from the sidelines. This new trilogy is based on an outline from Lucas and it was Lucas' idea to bring in Kasdan.
There are rumors that Ardnt is actually secretly working on the script for VIII now.
Tobar said:
Anchorhead said:
Tossing out what most likely was a Lucas/Disney idea and bringing in Kasdan to help with a total rewrite is, to me at least, much more than half full. He's looking for guidance from someone who was very involved in the film largely considered the best of the series.
Again, this is Kennedy calling the shots. The Mouse Ears are watching from the sidelines. This new trilogy is based on an outline from Lucas and it was Lucas' idea to bring in Kasdan.
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.Mac. said:
Anyway, imagine if Kershner returned to do ROTJ following after his successful ESB...
I highly doubt ROTJ would be much different film in its core. After all it was still Lucas who was creative director behind ESB and ROTJ.
But now that Lucas isn't actively involved any more, the films could be quite different with different director. So in this respect I agree with you that it might be better to keep one director throughout the ST, if EP7 doesn't suck of course.
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imperialscum said:
.Mac. said:
Anyway, imagine if Kershner returned to do ROTJ following after his successful ESB...
I highly doubt ROTJ would be much different film in its core. After all it was still Lucas who was creative director behind ESB and ROTJ.
But now that Lucas isn't actively involved any more, the films could be quite different with different director. So in this respect I agree with you that it might be better to keep one director throughout the ST, if EP7 doesn't suck of course.
I partially agree with this, because with Lucas wanting to take back the reigns after the over budget ESB and Kersh wanting to do what he wanted to do, clashes would have happened and Lucas would either have retreated to sulk (good film) or, more likely, would have sacked Kersh and done his own thing (similar film or worse than now).
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Tobar said:
There are rumors that Ardnt is actually secretly working on the script for VIII now.
That would make a lot of sense.
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timdiggerm said:
Tobar said:
There are rumors that Ardnt is actually secretly working on the script for VIII now.
That would make a lot of sense.
Script not thrown out, but decided to be more suited to the second episode of the ST, perhaps?
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Tyrphanax said:
imperialscum said:
.Mac. said:
Anyway, imagine if Kershner returned to do ROTJ following after his successful ESB...
I highly doubt ROTJ would be much different film in its core. After all it was still Lucas who was creative director behind ESB and ROTJ.
But now that Lucas isn't actively involved any more, the films could be quite different with different director. So in this respect I agree with you that it might be better to keep one director throughout the ST, if EP7 doesn't suck of course.
I partially agree with this, because with Lucas wanting to take back the reigns after the over budget ESB and Kersh wanting to do what he wanted to do, clashes would have happened and Lucas would either have retreated to sulk (good film) or, more likely, would have sacked Kersh and done his own thing (similar film or worse than now).
Well I think in its core ROTJ would be the same whether Lucas stayed at home during principal photography or ran around the sets. He may let Kershner freely direct actors in ESB, but he didn't let him do any major changes to what he cooked up in the pre-production. So as you said, there would probably be clashes if Kershner tried to change anything for ROTJ which would probably have negative effect on the film. Those who think Ewoks would not be in the film are just naive.
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