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OK so I have instructions on how to do this from a member that used to be a regular here and a very cool dude, he went by the name Segaflip, well I have just posted a project of ours and it took way, way to long, I have very fast speeds and this is just unacceptable, so I am assuming that maybe my instructions are very outdated, these were probably made well over 10 years ago lol, so my question is this, what are you current uploaders using when posting to the newsgroups? proper settings, size of the files, etc. by the way I just found out Quickpar does not work correctly on Windows 7 64-bit Pro either when trying to create par2 files.

So any advice or how to's on this would be great, because if I cannot figure this out then newsgroup posting will be out of the question as well, this current upload I have available took me 24+ hours to upload, it should have been a lot less.

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I'm using JBINUP to post with based upon recommendations from other users.  I can say for me it has been the most reliable and has never failed me whereas the other 2 I used before were quite flaky. I basically use all of the default settings and just plug in my username,password, and server information.

When I create rar's I've always set the file size to 100 megabytes per rar and selected no compression.

I use multipar because it works with win7 64bit and has a gui.

Luke threw twice…maybe.

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althor1138 said:

I'm using JBINUP to post with based upon recommendations from other users.  I can say for me it has been the most reliable and has never failed me whereas the other 2 I used before were quite flaky. I basically use all of the default settings and just plug in my username,password, and server information.

When I create rar's I've always set the file size to 100 megabytes per rar and selected no compression.

I use multipar because it works with win7 64bit and has a gui.

Thanks, that is what I did as well, I made 100 MB (stored) rars and found MultiPar, but do you have the same control with MultiPar as you do with QuickPar? like making the filesizes the same 100MB? thanks for the other program I will check it out, but I really do hope it lets me upload a lot faster then I did this BD, Yenc Power Post definitely did not take advantage of my speed at all.

Thanks again

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This might be stating the obvious, but most ISPs give you an upload speed that is much lower than their advertised download speed.

Do you know your actual upload speed? And how much data did you post? You can work out how long you should expect the posting to take, assuming that your connection is maxed out, then if it is significantly less you can investigate why and whether or not alternative software would help.

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I will have to try and find one of those sites that test speed, but I know when I torrent I get about 3 MB's I think it is, not sure what the size terminology is here lol, but with Yenc PP I only get 250-300 and this is way, way lower, and the amount of data I posted was about 25 GB's.

*edit, well I just did the speed test and this si the results,

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Yes, you need to be careful with data rate units because they can be confusing (a capital B and a lowercase b mean different things).

For example, at home I have a download speed of 30 Mbps and an upload of 3 Mbps.

That's equivalent to about 3.6 MB/s or 0.4 MB/s (some pedant will probably now chime in to say that should be in MiB/s!)

So a single layer DVDR would take me 20 minutes to download, or 3.5 hours to upload.

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OK just seen your edit, at that upload speed it should take you around 5 hours to upload a BD25.

Definitely sounds like there's a problem if it's taking 24hr+.

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Moth3r said:

OK just seen your edit, at that upload speed it should take you around 5 hours to upload a BD25.

Definitely sounds like there's a problem if it's taking 24hr+.

lol I know right, but not putting mainstream flicks on Spleen and a lot of folks not liking Uploaded.net so my next attempt was going back to the newsgroups, but I am afraid to say if I cannot get better speeds this will not happen either, right away I just assumed it was the way, way old program Yenc Power Post  A&A 11b, this is actually the software Segaflip gave me way, way, way back in the day lol.

also 1 thing, I am not sure if this is ok or not so could you tell me please, can I provide a download link here to the nzb? if not that is cool just trying to figure out a way to share without all the PM's.

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That is an old version; last time I posted something I used an updated version called CamelSystem Powerpost.

And sorry, NZB links are not allowed to be posted here. You could just tell people what to search for at binsearch.info.

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Moth3r said:

That is an old version; last time I posted something I used an updated version called CamelSystem Powerpost.

And sorry, NZB links are not allowed to be posted here. You could just tell people what to search for at binsearch.info.

Sounds good, I also grabbed that version of Power Post to try, do you know anything of the program Althor posted? also do you know anything about MultiPar? I really think this is the way to go if I can just get my speeds up lol.

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I had pretty terrible problems using camelsystem powerpost.  It sounds great because it supported more upload connections so I thought it would upload faster, which it did.  Problem is it screws up all of the crc numbers so that none of your par's will work with the rar's that you upload. Perhaps it was user error but I've never had the problem since I stopped using camelsystem powerpost.

Yenc PowerPost has like 4 or 8 upload connections if I remember right and Camelsystem PowerPost has something like 12 or 16?  Jbinup has unlimited connections so you can set it to 30 or 60 or however many your provider will allow you to use.

Jbinup does everything that all of the old outdated powerpost programs do and more. The fact that it has unlimited upload connections and SSL built-in makes it the single best choice that I've found so far. It is more modern and much more stable in my experience.  I highly recommend ditching everything else and going with Jbinup.

As far as finding your stuff I'd probably just hit up a Newsgroup search engine and search for Team Blu in the NFO file or the actual title and see what pops up.

Multipar has several sizing schemes.  It should be possible to make the par's the same size as the rar's. I've always used variable size which makes a few smaller par's that double in size for each step and then level out at the rar size.  So the first few par's would for example be like 10MB, 20MB,40MB,80MB.  Once it reaches the size of the rar's it levels out at this size and stays there which in our case would be 100 Megabytes.

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althor1138 said:

I had pretty terrible problems using camelsystem powerpost.  It sounds great because it supported more upload connections so I thought it would upload faster, which it did.  Problem is it screws up all of the crc numbers so that none of your par's will work with the rar's that you upload. Perhaps it was user error but I've never had the problem since I stopped using camelsystem powerpost.

Yenc PowerPost has like 4 or 8 upload connections if I remember right and Camelsystem PowerPost has something like 12 or 16?  Jbinup has unlimited connections so you can set it to 30 or 60 or however many your provider will allow you to use.

Jbinup does everything that all of the old outdated powerpost programs do and more. The fact that it has unlimited upload connections and SSL built-in makes it the single best choice that I've found so far. It is more modern and much more stable in my experience.  I highly recommend ditching everything else and going with Jbinup.

As far as finding your stuff I'd probably just hit up a Newsgroup search engine and search for Team Blu in the NFO file or the actual title and see what pops up.

Multipar has several sizing schemes.  It should be possible to make the par's the same size as the rar's. I've always used variable size which makes a few smaller par's that double in size for each step and then level out at the rar size.  So the first few par's would for example be like 10MB, 20MB,40MB,80MB.  Once it reaches the size of the rar's it levels out at this size and stays there which in our case would be 100 Megabytes.

Can you show me what to set this to? I am always going to make my rars 100 MB so I would like it if the PAR2 files stayed at 100 MB.

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I've never tested this but I think it would be this way:

First go to options and select 3000 lines YENC as the method for restricting block size to multiples of the unit. Make sure the program you are posting with is using 3000 lines and not 5000.

Here we have added 69 rar files at 100MB each. Slide the block count slider all the way to the right and then select sizing scheme all the same size.  At this point you could use the redundancy slider to select percentage and also set number of recovery blocks and recovery files.  This is not really precise though.  If you want exactly the number of blocks needed for 7 par2's at 100 megabyte filesize then I think you can take 274( number of blocks per rar file) and multiply it by however many recovery files you want.   So 274 blocks X 7 Files = 1,918 blocks. Plug this 1,918 number into the recovery blocks field and it will give you 7 recovery files at 100 megabytes.

Once again, this is untested but the best way to find out if it's wrong is post it and somebody will let you know lol.

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Thank you both for all the help, I will test this for sure on our next release and I really hope I get faster upload speeds or newsgroups will be ditched.

So are there any special settings I need to know with Jbinup?

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dark_jedi said:

So are there any special settings I need to know with Jbinup?

 Not that I recall. I basically just input the necessary information like server ip, user name, password, etc. When I set up the server settings i checked the encrypted(ssl) check box and used the ssl port given by my provider to connect with. I also told it to use 20 connections to the server.  Other than that, I didn't change much.

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althor1138 said:

dark_jedi said:

So are there any special settings I need to know with Jbinup?

 Not that I recall. I basically just input the necessary information like server ip, user name, password, etc. When I set up the server settings i checked the encrypted(ssl) check box and used the ssl port given by my provider to connect with. I also told it to use 20 connections to the server.  Other than that, I didn't change much.

Thanks again for all this help and info, since this has been written have you found out anything else that might be helpful by any chance? I am going to try uploading our latest project this afternoon using jbinup and really hope I get much faster speeds then with the previously very old program I was using lol.

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Nothing new on my part.  I think as long as you have set the number of connections in server settings to the amount that your provider allows you should definitely see a big jump in speed. I have mine set to 20 connections because that is all my provider allows but I only pay 5 bucks a month so I'm pretty happy with them. I can upload at a bit over 1MB/s with this setup. With powerpost I was lucky to get a stable upload at half of that speed. I think it would be faster for me if the server wasn't a few thousand miles from me lol. 

It'll be interesting to see if you get better performance.  If not then I'd say it might be a physical limitation between you and the server.

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Well I could not get jbinup to work, I would set up the server info using my Astraweb account info and every time I tried to start it up it said it was not set up, have no idea whats up there lol, but I went through the settings in my old program Yenc and now I have just uploaded 22.1 GB's in 4 hours, now this is much better.

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Does QuickPar work in a virtual XP box?

Dr. M

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Doctor M said:

Does QuickPar work in a virtual XP box?

I don't know myself, I do not even know what that is, but I could not get it to work on my system at all.

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I haven't moved to Win7 quite yet so this is a good question.

I know Win7 Pro http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7 (and 8 with some additional work http://lifehacker.com/5965889/how-to-run-windows-xp-for-free-in-windows-8/all) have the ability to run XP inside a window under the new operating systems.

Here is a guide if you don't have the Pro edition: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/10/how_to_run_xp_on_new_windows/

It should get QuickPar running, but I've never this.

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I find that Win XP mode to be a pain in the ass myself, I tried it way back when I first installed Win 7 Pro 64-bit and just did not like it and a lot of what I had still did not work, but Multipar works great, does everything Quickpar did so I am happy.

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dark_jedi said:

Well I could not get jbinup to work, I would set up the server info using my Astraweb account info and every time I tried to start it up it said it was not set up, have no idea whats up there lol, but I went through the settings in my old program Yenc and now I have just uploaded 22.1 GB's in 4 hours, now this is much better.

 I noticed that the uploads are password protected. Is PMing you for the password ok?

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vbangle said:

 I noticed that the uploads are password protected. Is PMing you for the password ok?

Absolutely V, but you have no need to, I am going to be sending both Private School and The Wild Life to you.

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You have to ask if Usenet is really the most appropriate choice for a distribution channel, if you are uploading password-protected files?

Maybe a private FTP would better suit your needs?

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