Star Wars on Super8 (Released) — Page 6

Actually, it is over 250GB *per reel* and there are 4 reels, making about 1.2TB in .avi format.

In openexr format it comes down to around 700GB for the whole shebang.

You will need something like Nuke or Davinci to utilise .exr files.

They are 16bit linear raw scans, so will look nothing much like the print itself, the full gamut is in the scan so that any prospective editor can correct it to their tastes.

.exr

For anyone intending to work with the Super8 films, for what it is worth, the leader has a LAD 35 sequence in it, on each reel from memory, so you could use that as a starting point for colour grading.

Similar to this:

Keep in mind that the above image isn't colour-accurate, I just pulled it off the web as an example, you will need to track down the correct values of the squares on the LAD 35 image from Kodak.

Oh, for anyone wondering what a LAD is, this is Kodak's blurb...

Laboratory Aim Density (LAD)

To maintain optimum quality and consistency in the final prints, the
laboratory must carefully control the color timing, printing, and
processing. Kodak's Laboratory Aim Density (LAD) control method
assists laboratories in setting up and controlling the electronic
color analyzer used for color timing, and the printing and duplicating
procedures. The use of the LAD control method is described in the
paper "A Simplified Motion-Picture Laboratory Control Method for
Improved Color Duplication" by John P. Pytlak and Alfred W. Fleischer,
published in the October 1976 SMPTE Journal. A simplified description
of the LAD method is outlined in KODAK Publication No.H-61A, "Using
LAD to Set Up an Electronic Color Analyzer and Control Duplicating".

To aid in color timing and curve placement, negative originals should
be timed relative to the Laboratory Aim Density (LAD) Control Film
supplied by Kodak. The electronic color analyzer used for color timing
is set-up with the LAD Control Film to produce a gray video display of
the LAD patch, corresponding to a 1.0 neutral density (gray) on the
print. The negative is then scene-to-scene timed to determine the
printer lights ("TAPE" values) for each scene, relative to the
printer/analyzer setup lights (usually TAPE 25-25-25).

There are specific LAD values for each type of print or duplicating
film that the original may be printed onto. For duplicating films,
(e.g. to make a master positive), the specified aim densities are at
the center of the usable straight-line portion of the sensitometric
curve of the film. For print film, the LAD patch is printed to obtain
a neutral gray of 1.00 visual density (1.00 Equivalent Neutral
Density) on the processed print at the setup lights (e.g. TAPE
25-25-25).

For prints intended for projection with xenon arc projectors, the
Laboratory Aim Densities for KODAK VISION Color Print Film / 2383/3383
corresponding to a 1.00 density visual gray... etc.

Here are some grabs straight from the scanner, including the LAD slide.

No correction done to them at all, just resized down and converted to .jpg

I will be interested to see if anyone wants to have a crack at correcting the LAD slide, then applying the same correction values to the other images and see if that works well, okay, badly or not at all :)

Thanks, that's the document I was looking for, but it is 1am and I couldn't find it :)

This is going to be awesome just to play around with.  I can't wait to get ahold of it.

The uncorrected scan is too dark (intentionally to preserve the highlights) and the reds are shifted towards orange, you can see that in the LAD frame and in the shot just before the Leia one, the orangey stuff in the cabinet should be much closer to red.

If I ever get through the rest of my scanning backlog Iwill move onto colour grading, but I will be interested to see what the community comes up with inbetween.

It could well be the case, the card *should* be an indication of any unwanted colour casts in the finished print, but it isn't always the case. Sometimes the leader isn't from the rest of the print anyway.

I haven't had a chance to play with it yet to see.

This is how it looks when you don't neutralize the greys and you color correct with your eyes instead, though it was interesting to try.

Gomu69 said:

Does anyone still want those samples? I still have them in tact, I haven't responded lately since my harddrive crashed and I was worried that I had lost everything in it, but it's all been recovered safe and sound now.

Yep! I do.

I'm glad to hear that you've managed to recover everything.

That's a lot of red to deal with.

I got some pretty good results by first pulling up the reds to neutralize the grays, then bringing the vibrancy way down and pulling up the saturation. This neutralizes most of the red tint, though it's still there to some extent:

Perhaps somewhere between the original and the corrected LAD is where you want to be.

JEDIT: On second thought, I really don't think that the LAD should be neutral gray, there's no way the sky is going to be anything but red if that happens.

Man, you'd think having a reference like the LAD would make it easy.

Cool stuff, though.

I have sent a second drive to AntcuFaalb as the first one appears to have gone AWOL. It has tracking this time, so hopefully it will arrive soon!

I am pretty sick again, running 40+C temps, so if I sound a little crazy at times, it is the fever talking, please ignore :)

I should have sent it with tracking in the first place. What's the bet that both drives arrive within days of each other ;)

And yes, I am heading back to bed now.

US Customs sucks. My best guess is that it's their fault.

It took months and months to receive the Droids PAL DVDs from Video Collector (Europe).

The worst thing about it is that it's unpredictable. o_O