What do you HATE about the EU? — Page 7

Author: Easterhay
Time: 1-Feb-2014 7:06 PM
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skyjedi2005 said:

Clone Wars.

I hate that Boba Fett was no longer a mandalorian because Jango was revealed to not be one in the clone wars cartoon. Never liked Jango but by extension Boba was no longer a Mando. Extremely stupid.

Disliked the Return of Darth Maul.

Hated Maul's brother and insipidly stupid name Savage Oppress.

Anyways its all the same as i said before verbatim. Lucas additions to the series were shit. Just as his input into the force unleashed games was.

The stuff Lucas had no hand in was easily better than the prequels.

Yeah, Savage Oppress is a much sillier name than, say, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Chewbacca or Jabba the Hutt...

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Author: Easterhay
Time: 1-Feb-2014 7:07 PM
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Anyway, isn't The Clone Wars canon? Which means it's not EU, correct?

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Author: NeverarGreat
Time: 1-Feb-2014 7:10 PM
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Easterhay said:

Anyway, isn't The Clone Wars canon? Which means it's not EU, correct?

Huh? I thought the EU was cannon. Has the cannonicity of things been in any way settled since the last furor?

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Author: Easterhay
Time: 1-Feb-2014 7:15 PM
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Oh, I daren't go there!

If it's been decided here that EU is canon, well I have better things to argue about to be honest!

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Author: RicOlie_2
Time: 1-Feb-2014 7:16 PM
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EU has been considered canon ever since it began its miserable existence. The Clone Wars is a higher degree of "canon" than the books and stuff, but it is still below movie-level canon.

Author: Easterhay
Time: 1-Feb-2014 7:27 PM
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Well, that's what I thought (although I'm quite content to consider both Clone Wars and The Clone Wars to be equal to the films in terms of authenticity).

What I hate about the EU is that there's simply too much of it. And I can't believe that most of it can be that good, really.

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Author: Tyrphanax
Time: 2-Feb-2014 3:27 AM (Edited)
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They're doing away with the whole hierarchy system now, and so they'll be dropping lots of material in the coming months/years. It'll be interesting to see what makes the cut and what doesn't.

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Author: DuracellEnergizer
Time: 2-Feb-2014 3:54 AM (Edited)
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RicOlie_2 said:

EU has been considered canon ever since it began its miserable existence.

Eh, not quite. It's only the modern EU which began in the 90's which was (mis)identified as canon. As far as I know, there was no canon policy for the early stuff made in the 70's-80's, especially since no real effort was put into maintaining continuity between the different books and comics written by the different writers.

Author: LexX
Time: 2-Feb-2014 3:56 AM
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Easterhay said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Clone Wars.

I hate that Boba Fett was no longer a mandalorian because Jango was revealed to not be one in the clone wars cartoon. Never liked Jango but by extension Boba was no longer a Mando. Extremely stupid.

Disliked the Return of Darth Maul.

Hated Maul's brother and insipidly stupid name Savage Oppress.

Anyways its all the same as i said before verbatim. Lucas additions to the series were shit. Just as his input into the force unleashed games was.

The stuff Lucas had no hand in was easily better than the prequels.

Yeah, Savage Oppress is a much sillier name than, say, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Chewbacca or Jabba the Hutt...

You are right.

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Author: Easterhay
Time: 2-Feb-2014 4:35 AM
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I was being sarcastic.

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Author: LexX
Time: 2-Feb-2014 9:27 AM
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...and I was not.

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Author: Carthage
Time: 2-Feb-2014 1:23 PM
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The TCW animated series is horrendous. From the terrible animation, to the belittling of characters, and to the constant shoehorning in of more Jedi=pointless battles for the outcome we all knew the rise of Palpatine. It was a terrible series, and I am glad it was cancelled. Hopefully, Disney will have some sense and retcon it

Author: darklordoftech
Time: 14-Feb-2014 12:18 AM (Edited)
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The absolutely nonsensical retcons, such as a reference to Leia being retconned into a reference to Padme, Leia and Han's wedding getting interrupted and then delayed for years, and Boba constantly going in and out of the sarlacc.

Author: hairy_hen
Time: 14-Feb-2014 1:18 AM
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What can he say, the Sarlaac was askin' for it. :P

Author: DuracellEnergizer
Time: 14-Feb-2014 1:36 AM
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darklordoftech said:

The absolutely nonsensical retcons, such as a reference to Leia being retconned into a reference to Padme

I assume this is the reference you're referring to, right?

If so, yeah, I agree -- it's an incredibly stupid retcon (one of the worst to come out of the modern EU, actually).

Author: darklordoftech
Time: 14-Feb-2014 2:01 AM
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DuracellEnergizer said:

darklordoftech said:

The absolutely nonsensical retcons, such as a reference to Leia being retconned into a reference to Padme

I assume this is the reference you're referring to, right?

If so, yeah, I agree -- it's an incredibly stupid retcon (one of the worst to come out of the modern EU, actually).

Indeed that is the reference I was referring to.

Author: Tyrphanax
Time: 14-Feb-2014 4:41 PM
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Well unfortunately with the way the prequels were done, there's literally no way it could have been Leia, or could have been during the Clone Wars.

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Author: darklordoftech
Time: 14-Feb-2014 5:08 PM
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The Force Unleashed. Palpatine and Vader shouldn't ever be defeated before ROTJ and the Empire shouldn't create the Rebellion.

Author: DuracellEnergizer
Time: 14-Feb-2014 5:59 PM (Edited)
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Tyrphanax said:

Well unfortunately with the way the prequels were done, there's literally no way it could have been Leia, or could have been during the Clone Wars.

Which is why the story should have just been left alone as an artifact of the Marvel Star Wars Universe. Not every Star Wars story ever written has to be a part of continuity and "canon".

Author: imperialscum
Time: 14-Feb-2014 6:06 PM
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darklordoftech said:

The Force Unleashed. Palpatine and Vader shouldn't ever be defeated before ROTJ and the Empire shouldn't create the Rebellion.

Well The Force Unleashed is hands down the worst Star Wars thing I have seen so far.

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Author: RicOlie_2
Time: 14-Feb-2014 6:13 PM
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darklordoftech said:

The Force Unleashed. Palpatine and Vader shouldn't ever be defeated before ROTJ and the Empire shouldn't create the Rebellion.

How specifically does the Empire create the Rebellion in TFU? 'Cause that sounds really stupid.

Author: darklordoftech
Time: 14-Feb-2014 11:51 PM (Edited)
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RicOlie_2 said:

darklordoftech said:

The Force Unleashed. Palpatine and Vader shouldn't ever be defeated before ROTJ and the Empire shouldn't create the Rebellion.

How specifically does the Empire create the Rebellion in TFU? 'Cause that sounds really stupid.

Vader has Starkiller gather the Empire's enemies into one place for an arrest. For some reason I'm not aware of, Vader also has Starkiller get them to use violence against the Empire and then Vader betrays Starkiller. Starkiller than turns to the light side, rescues the Empire's enemies, defeats Vader and Palpatine in duels, and then sacrifices himself to save Rahm Kota (a Jedi who's among those he rescued) from Palpatine's Force lightning. Those whom Starkiller rescued then go ahead and use violence against the Empire as the Rebel Alliance.

Author: RicOlie_2
Time: 15-Feb-2014 12:03 AM
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Gosh, that sounds stupid.

Author: darklordoftech
Time: 15-Feb-2014 12:10 AM (Edited)
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RicOlie_2 said:

Gosh, that sounds stupid.

That's because it is stupid. When I first played TFU, I was the most confused person in the world.

Author: Tobar
Time: 15-Feb-2014 12:20 AM (Edited)
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O_o Um okay.

So, Vader invades Kashyyyk to hunt down a reported Jedi that had been living there among the Wookiees. He does so and then discovers the Jedi had a son. Instead of killing the child he decides to take it with him.

He raises the child as his own secret apprentice in the hopes of one day overthrowing the Emperor. To ensure that he puts the kid through some crazy savage training to bring out the highest Darkside Force potential. Because the Emperor is no joke.

Vader uses his Secret Apprentice to hunt down the remaining Jedi that escaped the purge. Eventually the Emperor finds out about the Apprentice, or he knew about him all along. Either way, he orders Vader to betray his Apprentice but to keep him alive so that he might escape.

Why? Because the Emperor knows with his training he'll want to seek his revenge. And to take on the Empire you'll need an army. So the ultimate goal is to let Starkiller draw out the hidden Rebel leaders that have lead pocket Rebellions so that they can be eliminated.

Of course the plan backfires, and those leaders that had been separate before unite and form the Rebel Alliance.

In his memory they adopt his family crest as the symbol of the Alliance:

He gave them Hope.

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