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Okay, how about words that are slang in another country but not used in the one you currently live?  Should a person who does not know it as you know it be subject to torment and hatred because they said it?

Example, the word "turd-burglar" ..... apparently in the U.K. this is not a term of endearment towards homosexuals.  In the U.S. however, it might have been something you said to a close friend when trading humorous insults.  In fact, McDonalds had a character called the "Ham-burglar" yet as a kid I remember friends changing it to "turd-burglar" just because it was kids being kids.

So, is "turd-burglar" actually a homophobic slur or a word kids spoke when they were younger who thought farts were funny too? 

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TV's Frink said:

Are you still twelve?

Like it or lump Frink .... this is the "off-topic" section.  You can't have it both ways my friend.

:)

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TV's Frink said:

I think you missed the point.

Just because it isn't a legitimate question to you does not mean that it isn't a legit question to others.  

I didn't miss your point because your point was pointless.

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Ryan McAvoy said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Ah, Will & Grace -- undermining the gay agenda since 1998.

 Didn't know there was a gay agenda or that 'Will & Grace' undermined it.

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HotRod said:

Hang on a sec, Warb takes offense to his own shadow. Everything upsets him.

It was a joke. If the same joke was directed at me, I would have just laughed it off.

Warb, sorry if I caused you misery with my little joke.

 whatever. 

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ray_afraid said:

 If his intent really was to piss people off, why wouldn't he just say so?

 So people always say so when their intent is piss people off?

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ray_afraid said:

It's not a gay slur. Nor was what he said an attack on homosexuals or even rude or offensive.

ray_afraid said:

It's no more a put down to homosexuals as hetero is a put down on heterosexuals.

ho·mo 2  (hm)n. pl. ho·mos Offensive Slang

Used as a disparaging term for a gay man or lesbian.
1. homo

a derogatory term usually used by hetrosexual men against other heterosexual men

TV's Frink said:

Did you even bother reading the links I posted?

 obviously he didn't.  

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This line of discussion should have ended on the last page.

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Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

Did you even bother reading the links I posted?

 obviously he didn't.  

 Yeah, obviously I didn't or I'd now know that there is only one definition for the term 'homo', and it's disparaging. Always. And tremendously so. I'll have my fists ready next time someone says 'Homosexual'. If the final three syllables are dropped, it's clobberin' time!

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ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

Did you even bother reading the links I posted?

 obviously he didn't.  

 Yeah, obviously I didn't or I'd now know that there is only one definition for the term 'homo', and it's disparaging. Always. And tremendously so. I'll have my fists ready next time someone says 'Homosexual'. If the final three syllables are dropped, it's clobberin' time!

I wonder if they noticed that they gave you the second definition for the word homo from The Free Dictionary .....

ho·mo 2  (hm)n. pl. ho·mos Offensive Slang

......  not this one 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo

Urban dictionary says this .... Strangely, NO hyphenated version there either ......

1. homo

a derogatory term usually used by hetrosexual men against other heterosexual men

quit acting like a homo brad

you look like a homo

2. homo

A word that is short for homosexual.
Also used by immature teenagers as the ultimate insult word.
Jack: I have something to tell you. I'm gay.

OR

Kid to ex-friend: YOU HOMO!
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Yeah, you guys are right, there's nothing wrong with using it, or how it was used here.  Please go use it outside of off-topic and put your money where your mouth is.

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TV's Frink said:

Yeah, you guys are right, there's nothing wrong with using it, or how it was used here.  Please go use it outside of off-topic and put your money where your mouth is.

The problem with your "observation" is that it's societies fault when it comes to tagging everything that doesn't fit neatly into a category, not people in general.  There was a time when the word gay meant fun.  Now if you're a person using the word gay you might need to cover yourself in case you physically get hit, slapped with a lawsuit, or be accused of being homophobic. 

Homo (disambiguation)

Homo is the taxonomical genus that includes modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens).

Homo may also refer to:

  • ?μο-, Greek prefix meaning "the same", opposite of "hetero-" (Greek ?τερο- )
  • "Homo-" (also "dihomo-"), a prefix that may be used in organic chemistry's trivial names to indicate a next higher straight chain homolog, i.e., one noncyclic carbon more (and similarly "dihomo-" meaning two noncyclic carbons more) – examples include:
  • Homo, a colloquial abbreviation for homogenized milk (Canadian English)
  • Homo (surname), a French surname originating from Brittany and Normandy, borrowed from church Latin
  • Homos, an alternate spelling for hommus or hummus, a Levantine Arab food dip or spread made from chickpeas
  • HOMO, in chemistry an acronym for Highest Occupied Molecular Orbital
  • Homo, Latin for "man", "human being"
  • HomO, short name of the Swedish Ombudsman against Discrimination on Grounds of Sexual Orientation
  • Homo (slang) a colloquial, usually pejorative abbreviation for "homosexual" (adjective or noun)
  • Homo, wolfhound in Victor Hugo's novel The Man Who Laughs

Heck, if you break the word down homo+sexual literally it simply says man sexual .... no inference to being gay at all.  I know plenty of guys who are sexual and not gay.  The term has been given a perceived meaning due to the tone in which it might be used towards someone who is gay.  Someone somewhere put this term together to categorize something that didn't have it's own category and now it's law?  I don't buy into it. 

To me, people are people, no matter who they chose to love, and the word gay still means fun.

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Jetrell Fo said:

...Homo may also refer to:

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  • ?μο-, Greek prefix meaning "the same", opposite of "hetero-" (Greek ?τερο- )...

Heck, if you break the word down homo+sexual literally it simply says man sexual .... no inference to being gay at all. ... 

 There you go. In this context it has nothing to do with the word "man." It means "the same."

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Jetrell Fo said:

TV's Frink said:

Yeah, you guys are right, there's nothing wrong with using it, or how it was used here.  Please go use it outside of off-topic and put your money where your mouth is.

The problem with your "observation" is that it's societies fault when it comes to tagging everything that doesn't fit neatly into a category, not people in general.  There was a time when the word gay meant fun.  Now if you're a person using the word gay you might need to cover yourself in case you physically get hit, slapped with a lawsuit, or be accused of being homophobic. 

Homo (disambiguation)

Homo is the taxonomical genus that includes modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens).

Homo may also refer to:

  • ?μο-, Greek prefix meaning "the same", opposite of "hetero-" (Greek ?τερο- )
  • "Homo-" (also "dihomo-"), a prefix that may be used in organic chemistry's trivial names to indicate a next higher straight chain homolog, i.e., one noncyclic carbon more (and similarly "dihomo-" meaning two noncyclic carbons more) – examples include:
  • Homo, a colloquial abbreviation for homogenized milk (Canadian English)
  • Homo (surname), a French surname originating from Brittany and Normandy, borrowed from church Latin
  • Homos, an alternate spelling for hommus or hummus, a Levantine Arab food dip or spread made from chickpeas
  • HOMO, in chemistry an acronym for Highest Occupied Molecular Orbital
  • Homo, Latin for "man", "human being"
  • HomO, short name of the Swedish Ombudsman against Discrimination on Grounds of Sexual Orientation
  • Homo (slang) a colloquial, usually pejorative abbreviation for "homosexual" (adjective or noun)
  • Homo, wolfhound in Victor Hugo's novel The Man Who Laughs

Heck, if you break the word down homo+sexual literally it simply says man sexual .... no inference to being gay at all.  I know plenty of guys who are sexual and not gay.  The term has been given a perceived meaning due to the tone in which it might be used towards someone who is gay.  Someone somewhere put this term together to categorize something that didn't have it's own category and now it's law?  I don't buy into it. 

To me, people are people, no matter who they chose to love, and the word gay still means fun.

 You may be the least gay person on the forum.

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Warbler said:

Mrebo said:The couple sued and won. I expressed the view that the judge was right.

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 But the idea that we have to force that baker to make the cake for gay couples is silly.

I'm confused.  

In a more ideal world, the discriminated against couple would just go to another bakery, not file a lawsuit that serves to force someone out of business or force them to provide for an event that he feels sinful. My views are informed by the fact that a majority of bakeries would still be available for the gay couple to get a cake from (which they did), the baker's insistence that he had no problem serving gay customers in general, and the sincerity that he just felt it was wrong for him to provide the wedding cake. It wasn't a dire situation as existed for blacks in our history.

I'm saying I think the judge is right on the law. The baker was being asked to make a cake. Making cakes is not against his religion, nor is even making them for gay people. The only thing he didn't want to do is to make a cake knowing it would be used for a specific event. So while his discomfort is understandable, it can be said to be rather removed from forcing him to violate his religion in some way. That is why it makes sense to say he cannot discriminate in making of cakes. In the previous paragraph, I'm just saying maybe he should be allowed to be as sensitive as he wants.

Mrebo said: I was then accused of being an effeminate communist.

you hang out with really extreme and crazy conservatives.

It's the internet. All partisans on the internet can get batty when challenged.

The blue elephant in the room.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

...Homo may also refer to:

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  • ?μο-, Greek prefix meaning "the same", opposite of "hetero-" (Greek ?τερο- )...

Heck, if you break the word down homo+sexual literally it simply says man sexual .... no inference to being gay at all. ... 

 There you go. In this context it has nothing to do with the word "man." It means "the same."

Exactly why I said the word has been given a perceived meaning "after" I posted all the references.  Thanks for pointing out the obvious though .... now at least others don't have to guess. 

On a side note Greek/Latin prefixes are used for science, medicine, and literature, not to personally degrade people.

:)

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Jetrell Fo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

...Homo may also refer to:

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  • ?μο-, Greek prefix meaning "the same", opposite of "hetero-" (Greek ?τερο- )...

Heck, if you break the word down homo+sexual literally it simply says man sexual .... no inference to being gay at all. ... 

 There you go. In this context it has nothing to do with the word "man." It means "the same."

Exactly why I said the word has been given a perceived meaning "after" I posted all the references.  Thanks for pointing out the obvious though .... now at least others don't have to guess. 

 Hey, that's my job! ;)

The way you worded the bit about "man sexual" or whatever, implied that you were choosing that meaning of the word rather than doing whatever you were trying to do.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Jetrell Fo said:

...Homo may also refer to:

...

  • ?μο-, Greek prefix meaning "the same", opposite of "hetero-" (Greek ?τερο- )...

Heck, if you break the word down homo+sexual literally it simply says man sexual .... no inference to being gay at all. ... 

 There you go. In this context it has nothing to do with the word "man." It means "the same."

Exactly why I said the word has been given a perceived meaning "after" I posted all the references.  Thanks for pointing out the obvious though .... now at least others don't have to guess. 

 Hey, that's my job! ;)

The way you worded the bit about "man sexual" or whatever, implied that you were choosing that meaning of the word rather than doing whatever you were trying to do.

I can see how that might have been confusing.  I just went with one of the many choices available.      

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HotRod said:

The 'Mr' thing is annoying, not the mistakes.

Never mind, carry on

 

Ah, that. Yeah. I always have quite a difficulty in adressing persons on a forum correct, when only knowing some nicks, when the nicks are kinda forming some grammatical form to my limited english. :) In the sentenced "TV's Frink" or just "Frink" sounded so misplaced...

I am not a native english speaker, and I allways had much problems learning some language. In schopol I only had english as first foreign language and latin as second, because in pronouncing words which are written complete other way than pronounced, I am.. well you wouldn't stop laughing when hearing me speaking english. (You know the movie "Hercules in New York with Schwarzenegger? Take the original english audio not redubbed, and I would say, I am almost as bad as Mr. Schwarzenegger :) )

I try my best not to write "googlish" (I didn't know such thing exist until the one with the fanfic for sold at amazon brought it up), but, it is obviously me failing. :)

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In the span of two days, New Mexico legalized gay marriage and Utah's anti-gay marriage law was ruled unconstitutional.  More and more people have come to accept gay marriage.  I don't think we are far away from this going national.

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MrBrown said:

HotRod said:

The 'Mr' thing is annoying, not the mistakes.

Never mind, carry on

 

Ah, that. Yeah. I always have quite a difficulty in adressing persons on a forum correct, when only knowing some nicks, when the nicks are kinda forming some grammatical form to my limited english. :) In the sentenced "TV's Frink" or just "Frink" sounded so misplaced...

I am not a native english speaker, and I allways had much problems learning some language. In schopol I only had english as first foreign language and latin as second, because in pronouncing words which are written complete other way than pronounced, I am.. well you wouldn't stop laughing when hearing me speaking english. (You know the movie "Hercules in New York with Schwarzenegger? Take the original english audio not redubbed, and I would say, I am almost as bad as Mr. Schwarzenegger :) )

I try my best not to write "googlish" (I didn't know such thing exist until the one with the fanfic for sold at amazon brought it up), but, it is obviously me failing. :)

 Fair enough Mr Mr Brown

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